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Offline Andy

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2017, 12:10:46 PM »
Time for Adam Wheater to grow a pair.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2017, 12:12:14 PM »
Westley in. Bad for us. Well done him.  Without sounding dramatic, I can see our tittle charge dropping!!!
We certainly have some, er, "challenges" without Tom & Ally. Time for Wheater, Velani, & Taylor to show what they are made of?

Slightly surprised that Malan got into the squad ahead of Stoneman, but at least the selectors are thinking of the extra batsman. Dawson may have promise, but at the moment he's a luxury we can't afford.
And how fit is Mark Wood?

If Malan plays it will be in the middle order.  Root looks like he wants to bat at 4 so Stoneman wouldn't be a good fit for 5 or below.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2017, 12:15:44 PM »
Westley in. Bad for us. Well done him.  Without sounding dramatic, I can see our tittle charge dropping!!!
What?! Losing one batsman for one game will de-rail our CC campaign? Yaaawkshire will be without Bairstow, Balance at least.

No, we have already lost our best batsman in Cook. Westley is also up there for us as one of our best. That is a big amount of runs to fill. And I am sure there is a good chance that Westley will be in for more than one game

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2017, 12:22:58 PM »
Westley in. Bad for us. Well done him.  Without sounding dramatic, I can see our tittle charge dropping!!!
What?! Losing one batsman for one game will de-rail our CC campaign? Yaaawkshire will be without Bairstow, Balance at least.

No, we have already lost our best batsman in Cook. Westley is also up there for us as one of our best. That is a big amount of runs to fill. And I am sure there is a good chance that Westley will be in for more than one game
Exactly.  He'll miss atleast the next 3 if he stays in the side.  An in form Wheater is a good replacement but he's not scoring runs at all atm.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2017, 01:16:27 PM »
Westley in. Bad for us. Well done him.  Without sounding dramatic, I can see our tittle charge dropping!!!
What?! Losing one batsman for one game will de-rail our CC campaign? Yaaawkshire will be without Bairstow, Balance at least.

No, we have already lost our best batsman in Cook. Westley is also up there for us as one of our best. That is a big amount of runs to fill. And I am sure there is a good chance that Westley will be in for more than one game
Exactly.  He'll miss atleast the next 3 if he stays in the side.  An in form Wheater is a good replacement but he's not scoring runs at all atm.

he wount be given 1 game even if he gets a pair.

he will be given a  run will miss 4 games. absolute disaster for Essex, 2 of the top 3 gone and 2 who were in great form. i think that call up has taken our CC hopes with them. The annoying thing is he shouldnt be called up as there are players who have been consistently better longer term than him in division 1 who should have got a go first, stoneman for starters.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2017, 05:52:44 PM »
Rubbish, pieinthesky, absolute rubbish. Yes we want Essex to win the CC, but also yes we want the England team to do well. And a good Test team has to be first priority.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2017, 09:10:35 AM »
Rubbish, pieinthesky, absolute rubbish. Yes we want Essex to win the CC, but also yes we want the England team to do well. And a good Test team has to be first priority.

which bit is rubbish?

he wont be given just 1 game?

Its an absoute disaster for Essex?

Or that there are others ahead of him in the queue, ie Stoneman?

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2017, 02:51:48 PM »
Rubbish, pieinthesky, absolute rubbish. Yes we want Essex to win the CC, but also yes we want the England team to do well. And a good Test team has to be first priority.

which bit is rubbish?

he wont be given just 1 game?

Its an absoute disaster for Essex?

Or that there are others ahead of him in the queue, ie Stoneman?

I can't speak for Mr Square but I imagine his point was that if we want a strong first class county game to provide Test players. we can't really complain when they pick one of ours. Yes I know we all want our strongest possible team in the last few matches, but remember when we won titles despite not having Gooch, Foster, Pringle etc for half our fixtures....

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2017, 03:11:07 PM »
But i havent said i dont want a strong england (but would still choose Essex success first).  I've voiced my opinions on its impact on our CC chances, and how i dont think he was next cab off the rank.


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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2017, 05:05:22 PM »
Rubbish, pieinthesky, absolute rubbish. Yes we want Essex to win the CC, but also yes we want the England team to do well. And a good Test team has to be first priority.

which bit is rubbish?

he wont be given just 1 game?

Its an absoute disaster for Essex?

Or that there are others ahead of him in the queue, ie Stoneman?

I can't speak for Mr Square but I imagine his point was that if we want a strong first class county game to provide Test players. we can't really complain when they pick one of ours. Yes I know we all want our strongest possible team in the last few matches, but remember when we won titles despite not having Gooch, Foster, Pringle etc for half our fixtures....

Thanks Mr P. Quite.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2017, 02:10:56 PM »
Surely The Walking Wicket, aka Keaton Jennings, has had his last chance now.

Malan hasn't impressed either. I've a horrible feeling that Ballance will be at 5 vs the Windies.

And score a hatful.

They be totally useless in Australia. :(

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2017, 06:55:48 AM »
Hales at 5, Stoneman at 2...unless Hameed gets himself sorted....

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2017, 08:40:32 AM »
Hales at 5, Stoneman at 2...unless Hameed gets himself sorted....

You can't play Cook and Hameed together. They would empty the ground.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2017, 08:41:50 AM »
Jennings and Malan to go for me. Stoneman at 2, Ali at 5 and bring in Woakes at 8.

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Re: England - Some players have got to go!!!
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2017, 09:30:51 AM »
Hales or Stoneman to open See how Westley goes in the next three tests,  Bairstow 5 Stokes 6 and 7 Ali  8 Woakes Depending on the pitch Crane or Roland jones