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Offline afinetickletoleg

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Re: It's oh so quiet...
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2015, 08:52:34 AM »
Darren knows that the players facilities (or lack of) seriously impacts our ability to sign top players.

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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2015, 11:43:35 AM »
Every winter, the panel tells us about the team's objectives for the upcoming season; last year it was winning the T20 Blast. Ronnie has stated that he wants to win a trophy as soon as possible and he is to be commended for this, as it is something we all want. I would ask which trophy (most realistically) and how are the club going about achieving it?

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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2015, 02:31:36 PM »
Every winter, the panel tells us about the team's objectives for the upcoming season; last year it was winning the T20 Blast. Ronnie has stated that he wants to win a trophy as soon as possible and he is to be commended for this, as it is something we all want. I would ask which trophy (most realistically) and how are the club going about achieving it?

Promotion seems to be a priority with it maybe going to one up one down soon.

http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Eagles-rise-shine-season/story-28071428-detail/story.html

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Re: It's oh so quiet...
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 06:46:50 PM »
Does that mean that our promotion effort will start before June?

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2015, 10:56:03 AM »
Personally, I think silverwood is a good shout.  He got the lads motivated properly for the 4 games he was in charge, which if I recall we won 3 and drew 1 against the promoted side.  He's presided over the development of some decent young seamers( 2 of whom have unfortunately left us) and the players seem to understand him.

The down side is that because he's already here, he won't have much negotiating power with the current set up to get it kicked around and re-organised properly.

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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2015, 04:37:06 PM »
Personally, I think silverwood is a good shout.  He got the lads motivated properly for the 4 games he was in charge, which if I recall we won 3 and drew 1 against the promoted side.  He's presided over the development of some decent young seamers( 2 of whom have unfortunately left us) and the players seem to understand him.

The down side is that because he's already here, he won't have much negotiating power with the current set up to get it kicked around and re-organised properly.

mills never developed above his raw talent, under a decent coach would have been so much more.

topley was coached by don.

porter is the only seamer, who has developed at essex and thats it in however many years silverwood has been coaching.

compared with other counties that's pretty poor considering there is literally no other young seamers coming through. in fact its quite shocking. things are so bad a player deemed no where near good enough one season was re-engaged (moore) based on nothing more than lack of alternatives.

player understand him? on what basis have you made that judgement?

the team won games after the season was effectively over. graysons team did that and drawing with a promoted team once they already had promotion is certainly no indicator.

silverwood would be a shocking choice given his influence over the underachievement grayson presided over. he was graysons man and should have gone too. however he is cheap and part of the structure so no chanfe essex will just as likely go with grayson mark 2.

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Re: It's oh so quiet...
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2015, 04:46:17 PM »
Look outside the club for the next person.

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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2015, 08:39:29 PM »
Look outside the club for the next person.

Outrageous, 'revolutionary' talk like that Andy is anathema to ECCC. Personally, I'd like the entire composition of the Cricket Committee, Chairman, et al to consist of "outsiders". As much chance of that happening though as Irani admitting his egotism has the better of him!

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Re: It's oh so quiet...
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2015, 11:27:04 AM »
Another question I would ask is, with James Foster taking up a position at Forest School, will there be a review of the captaincy role(s) at Essex?

Offline afinetickletoleg

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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2015, 02:03:41 PM »
Another question I would ask is, with James Foster taking up a position at Forest School, will there be a review of the captaincy role(s) at Essex?

My guess would be No.

I imagine that he only took up the school role after confirming with Ronnie that it would not impact his captaincy.

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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2015, 02:29:42 PM »
Another question I would ask is, with James Foster taking up a position at Forest School, will there be a review of the captaincy role(s) at Essex?

My guess would be No.

I imagine that he only took up the school role after confirming with Ronnie that it would not impact his captaincy.

Ah bless, some people on here still believe in logic and reason when it comes to ECCC decision making.

Personally I doubt it - we used to have a schoolmaster captain the side (older fans may remember Denys Wilcox) but that was in the 1930s before T20 and when no one expected anyone else to win the championship apart from Yorkshire.

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Re: It's oh so quiet...
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2015, 03:36:06 PM »
Another question I would ask is, with James Foster taking up a position at Forest School, will there be a review of the captaincy role(s) at Essex?

That would require someone at ECCC being brave enough to raise the captaincy question with James Foster. And it seems to have been established that such a person does not exist.

Offline IlfordEagle

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Re: It's oh so quiet...
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2015, 07:52:42 PM »
In the 30s I think Wilcox shared the Captaincy with Tom Pearce & it seemed to work well, Essex had a decent side & regularly finished in the top half. Different scenario these days of course, I reckon if Fossie plays on for more than 2016 his Captaincy would need to be reviewed (some/many would say it should have been reviewed by now anyway!!).

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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2015, 09:51:16 AM »
In the 30s I think Wilcox shared the Captaincy with Tom Pearce & it seemed to work well, Essex had a decent side & regularly finished in the top half. Different scenario these days of course, I reckon if Fossie plays on for more than 2016 his Captaincy would need to be reviewed (some/many would say it should have been reviewed by now anyway!!).

Yes, indeed. Pearce had time off from Tray Grinters wine merchants in the first half of the season, then when term finished Wilcox came in as skipper. However the latter took the first half of the 1939 season whilst TP had already been called up for an important match against 'that little Austrian corporal'. Unwin, Stephenson took over for the end of the season.

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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2015, 10:54:30 PM »
Same old, same old then.

Sigh.