Best eng 50 over line up for oz (& NZ)

[Andy]

I'm loving it - and so should Cook

It was portrayed that all ills were down to Cooks batting and captaincy.
Perhaps people will now realise that it is down to people to execute their own skills as the batsmen are still getting themselves out and the bowlers are still getting carted all over the field.

Well, AC didn't help matters did he?  Let's face it Moores was the nth choice (insert number between 5 and 29) coach because no credible candidate wants the job.  Same could be said for the captaincy post(s) - only incompetents and/or lunatics want the job. And no, KP would make no difference at all.

We desperately need a new Nasser Hussain, streetwise aggressive - for all his faults able to keep discipline as well as keep up spirits.  Dusty Miller was very shrewd to leave when he did...

[IlfordEagle]

What was it Capt Morgan said about the experienced players stepping up...? Not a chance, we're looking at a total shambles already led by a man who can't buy a run & last Summer led Middlesex to bottom place in T20 & little better in the RL.
Ravi must indeed be bad if he can't get into this side, it'll be interesting to see if Dominic Cork carries out his threat to streak naked over London Bridge if Scotland beat us next!!

[Slogger]

Well they can't cite being underprepared having cleared the calendar of red ball cricket since August.

The fact that we'll no doubt qualify for the quarter finals illustrates what a flawed and over long format the competition has. It ought to be 4 groups of 4 with 3 group games and straight into the quarter finals. You'd get more minnows involved and the whole thing would move on more quickly.

[firehazard]

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The fact that we'll no doubt qualify for the quarter finals illustrates what a flawed and over long format ...

That's the major source of disappointment. The sooner this squad gets packed off home with tails between legs the better. And as far as the coaching is concerned, it's a case of Moores is less.

[afinetickletoleg]

Is Moores a coach or manager?
They have a batting coach, bowling coach and fielding coach so where does Moores come in?

Anyway all of our problems were down to Cooks lack of tactical nous and flexibility and were going to be resolved by the genius of Morgan.

[Andy]

Is Moores a coach or manager?
They have a batting coach, bowling coach and fielding coach so where does Moores come in?

Anyway all of our problems were down to Cooks lack of tactical nous and flexibility and were going to be resolved by the genius of Morgan.

No one said that. Neither did anyone rate Moores as either coach or manager. If we had kept AC in post as captain it would be no different than keeping Grayson in as coach at ECCC. Both had a little bit of success but not really fitting the role.

[sufcessex]

i think Cooks had a lucky escape.

[tonk]

Morgan is obviously a good judge as he thought they had enough!God knows what would have happened if Root had not been put down early.Can they beat the Bangla's?

[nat]

Right ...
...this is what they should do...
...
Bring Tredwell, Bopara and Hales in for all of the remaining games. Not so much that they need them to beat Bangla and Afgan but so that they can get some match practice ahead of the QF.

Boapra gives bowling variety to the attack, Hales can clear the ropes and Tredwell is our best 1-day bowler.

Drop Finn or Anderson, Ali and Ballance.

[afinetickletoleg]

Right ...
...this is what they should do...
...
Bring Tredwell, Bopara and Hales in for all of the remaining games. Not so much that they need them to beat Bangla and Afgan but so that they can get some match practice ahead of the QF.

Boapra gives bowling variety to the attack, Hales can clear the ropes and Tredwell is our best 1-day bowler.

Drop Finn or Anderson, Ali and Ballance.

Agree with the three coming in but I would drop Bell rather than Ali.

All that will happen though is Hales for Ballance.

[bwildered]

Someone who did not rate Moores from the start ,England's No 1 nut .

[IlfordEagle]

Ballance has not provided what his name suggests he should, the bowling gets continually carted around, surely Hales & Ravi can't do any worse than what we have?
England lack a natural No 3? Er no they actually have one over there... Ravi who is Essex's regular No 3 & has done very well for us over the years, then have Taylor as No 4 which he fulfils very well for Notts, followed by our truly wonderful Captain (not)!!

[sufcessex]

apart from Ravi i'm not sure who the other squad members are but i'd give them all the next 2 games and tell the lot who will get dropped that they've failed to perform so they are out.

morgan will probably make no changes win the next two against poor teams and rave about how he's stuck with the players and they got us through the group.

[pablo]

Surely it 's time after this world cup to go for relative youth and stick with it come hell or high water. It's barely possible to do worse than we have in the last Ashes and this tournament. That means ditching - for all their past achievements - Bell,Anderson,Broad,Finn, Morgan,Bopara and possibly Cook too. Forget entirely about Pieterson and probably Trott as well. All of them, for different reasons - age, attitude, consistency,confidence- are past their sell by date. Bring in Root as captain and Lyth,Lees,Vince,Moeen,Buttler,Rashid, Ballence ( for tests), Taylor,Jordan,Topley,Overton,Wood,Roy. There are risks in exposing the young too soon but it would certainly show who is resilient enough to cope with international sport at the top.

[sufcessex]

Surely it 's time after this world cup to go for relative youth and stick with it come hell or high water. It's barely possible to do worse than we have in the last Ashes and this tournament. That means ditching - for all their past achievements - Bell,Anderson,Broad,Finn, Morgan,Bopara and possibly Cook too. Forget entirely about Pieterson and probably Trott as well. All of them, for different reasons - age, attitude, consistency,confidence- are past their sell by date. Bring in Root as captain and Lyth,Lees,Vince,Moeen,Buttler,Rashid, Ballence ( for tests), Taylor,Jordan,Topley,Overton,Wood,Roy. There are risks in exposing the young too soon but it would certainly show who is resilient enough to cope with international sport at the top.

i'd go with that, players will either sink or swim but as you say it can't be any worse than what is happening at the moment.