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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2022, 06:56:12 PM »
Not an easy pitch, but 161 not likely to be enough. If Salt and Jennings get going, they might not even need David.

But then with Harmer you just never know.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2022, 07:00:16 PM »
Pepper stumped by Salt ....

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2022, 07:38:13 PM »
Not an easy pitch, but 161 not likely to be enough. If Salt and Jennings get going, they might not even need David.

But then with Harmer you just never know.

Nothing wrong with the pitch at all. Wrong decision to bat. Awful performance! But they have done well to get this far. But Lancs are nothing special.

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2022, 08:02:00 PM »
Being utterly outplayed - Men against boys. Almost an embarrassingly poor performance, but suppose can’t really complain since have got this far. Sky commentary irritatingly biased towards Lancashire.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2022, 08:19:09 PM »
Back to some proper cricket in a couple of days.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2022, 08:19:17 PM »
Oh well. About right for the season and well played to get this far. I hope the team learns from
it and gets better. I was a big supporter of his, but Daniel Sams has been disappointing.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2022, 08:24:41 PM »
Well that was pretty sobering. Not even in the frame.  Didn't think 161 would be enough - we needed someone to go on and play a major innings - but even so I thought we might push them harder than that. Croft playing the sort of innings we've rarely seen from our own batsmen in this format.

As others have said we'd probably punched above our weight to get this far. Have to hope we can get a more effective overseas player next year. Over the whole tournament, Sams put in one superb all-round performance, but very little else.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2022, 09:08:33 PM »
Sams so poor again with the ball. Such a disappointing signing.

Not sure why no Khushi?

Overall, not too bad to reach the QF stage with this squad. Rossington and Critchley have definitely improved the side.

Pepper fantastic and has emerged well.

Good to see Walter improving too.

We are not far away from challenging. A better overseas player and one more senior quality fast bowler and we would be up there.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2022, 01:06:09 AM »
Harmer made a mistake at the toss as the ball looked to be skidding on, but even if we bowled first it probably would have been beyond us as we'd have been chasing 185 bare minimum bowling as we did. We were out bowled, out batted and out fielded. Allison again was ruthlessly targeted but he brings it upon himself by bowling absolute filth. Should be nowhere near the team and he cost us again, the players clearly gave up and let their heads drop after he shipped another 15 odd from his second over midway through Lancs' innings.

Sams was Neesham mark two, won one or two games, but out of a possible 15 that's not good enough from an overseas, plus he's cost us games (Somerset at home which ultimately denied us a home draw). It's just unacceptable for an overseas to go for 19 runs in one over of a quarter-final. We need to stop wasting our second OS spot on mediocre all-rounders and either get a world class fast bowler (preferably a left-armer like Boult, Shaheen, Amir), or an opening partner for Rossington who can hit boundaries in their sleep. Someone like Aaron Finch (Aussie white ball players should be free next June/July as that's rumoured to be when the Ashes takes place.

Progress though! I really did expect a 8th/9th place finish so they greatly exceeded my expectations, I believe mainly due to the powerful impact of full crowds returning to Chelmsford which we greatly suffered without in 2020 and 2021. In Pepper we've found one for the long haul as well. They need to learn how to win on big grounds though and find a consistent overseas player who can win more than just a couple of games a season if we are to go any further.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2022, 07:43:25 AM »
 Batting first unfortunately means that it takes several overs to work out how the wicket is playing, especially at a way location in which we are not regular visitors due to the T20 north south divide. Sadly the top order suffered in working out the slow pitch which unfortunately nobody got the vital big score, has all made starts but did not progress.
Lancs had not lost at home in T20 for two years, which tells what a home tie a advantage is at this stage.
Overall campaign, still room for improvement but much more good performances than bad, the out fielding at times was outstanding. One game away from finals day must be progress considering several new young players now developing to the new squad.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2022, 08:18:59 AM »
Sams was disappointing in the end.  Looking at him and Neesham, we basically got what we should have expected. Both are capable of being match winners with bat and ball, but that is few and far between. Thats not a criticism, its how they have been their whole career.  I think we need to decide what we want, a batter or a bowler. We are trying to cover all basses with an "all rounder" but we end up covering neither. We are not far away, but we need a rethink of the OS  for me.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2022, 01:01:38 PM »
Spin is king at Old Trafford. Except when they ploughed the wicket in 1976.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2022, 08:57:20 PM »
Siddle took 3 for 10 in his two overs in the Somerset QF

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2022, 09:31:38 PM »
Spare a thought for Matt McKiernan: figures of 4-0-82-0. The most expensive 4 overs in T20 history.

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Re: Lancs 1/4 final
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2022, 09:44:23 PM »
Spare a thought for Matt McKiernan: figures of 4-0-82-0. The most expensive 4 overs in T20 history.

More runs conceded by one bowler than the whole team scored in reply.  Has that ever happened before?