Author Topic: AGM  (Read 59926 times)

Offline firehazard

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 605
Re: AGM
« Reply #105 on: December 03, 2022, 09:12:19 AM »
He has excellent credentials and probably was the best candidate (admittedly we don't know who the others were). The fact that no one saw fit to go through his social media is another matter. That's the fault of the recruiters and JS was entitled to expect that they had done their due diligence.

The lack of due diligence on this is deeply disturbing. It's another indication that the problems at the club are deep-seated.

Also have to wonder about the same with regard to the previous positions that looked so good on paper.

Offline Oldhasbeen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1375
Re: AGM
« Reply #106 on: December 03, 2022, 10:17:35 AM »
He has excellent credentials and probably was the best candidate (admittedly we don't know who the others were). The fact that no one saw fit to go through his social media is another matter. That's the fault of the recruiters and JS was entitled to expect that they had done their due diligence.
Whoever appointed the recruiters is responsible.
As the old management adage has it "you can delegate tasks, but you can't delegate responsibility."
Or as President Harry S Truman put it "The Buck Stops Here"

If the recruiters have failed in their contractual obligations, we should sue them. I'm no lawyer, but I suspect unless there is something in black and white requiring the recruiters to check candidates' social media postings, they (the recruiters) could worm their way out.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2022, 09:29:17 AM by oldhasbeen »

Offline vim

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1589
Re: AGM
« Reply #107 on: December 03, 2022, 10:17:44 AM »
As regards the use of twitter. it was Mark Twain who said it is better to keep quiet and let people think that you are an idiot, than comment and confirm it.

The same goes for John Faragher as well.

Offline Suffolk Richard

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 309
Re: AGM
« Reply #108 on: December 04, 2022, 06:03:02 PM »
Its not good and the club could be subject to a lot of criticism from those not associated with it. The membership need to stick together and make sure those that are running the club are going to reset the platform so we can move on.

For all its faults there is a reason why democracy is the best form of appointing leaders. If the entire board had been subject to election then there would have been many more eyes on the background of all the candidates and it is likely this mess would have been avoided.

What if all candidates were chosen by a nomination committee and the membership can vote for 5 of them ?

Also whilst I agree in theory about candidates putting themselves up for election without being hand picked. It doesn't help this  cause when less then 30 percent of those eligible to vote bother to do so.  Aparthy is a problem with most elections and those that dont bother to vote cannot really have any complaints.  On the other hand if 90 percent plus voted that would put the board under much more pressure to deliver for the membership.

Offline Valentines Park

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3820
  • In Ron We Trust
Re: AGM
« Reply #109 on: December 05, 2022, 11:22:52 AM »
Has the grovelling apology been issued yet?

Almost makes you yearn for the days of Nigel Hilliard.

Offline Perov

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1548
Re: AGM
« Reply #110 on: December 05, 2022, 06:33:21 PM »
Former Essex chairman John Faragher has launched  a defamation  case against Essex CCC.  Grab some popcorn.

Offline nat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7292
Re: AGM
« Reply #111 on: December 05, 2022, 07:31:38 PM »
Former Essex chairman John Faragher has launched  a defamation  case against Essex CCC.  Grab some popcorn.

Buy an Essex CCC membership for Christmas...for the gift that keeps on giving.

Offline vim

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1589
Re: AGM
« Reply #112 on: December 05, 2022, 09:45:02 PM »
Did anyone vote for the retired Solicitor who put himself forward? He could have been very useful. I voted for him, he was the only candidate without a Essex till I die template statement.

I hope John Faragher has deep pockets, it could get very expensive.

Offline SirChef26

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1674
Re: AGM
« Reply #113 on: December 06, 2022, 12:57:45 AM »
Former Essex chairman John Faragher has launched  a defamation  case against Essex CCC.  Grab some popcorn.
That bloke is almost as embarrassing as the current incumbents.

Wish we'd just sell the club to an Indian billionaire with a contractual guarantee of a new ground build by 2030 and be done with it!

Offline nat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7292
Re: AGM
« Reply #114 on: December 06, 2022, 07:32:52 AM »
Former Essex chairman John Faragher has launched  a defamation  case against Essex CCC.  Grab some popcorn.
Presumably he has had sight of the forthcoming report and doesn't like it.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2022, 03:56:41 PM by nat »

Offline Andy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7853
Re: AGM
« Reply #115 on: December 06, 2022, 12:59:58 PM »
Well, we don’t need yet more scuttlebut around this club, but there is a remarkable lack of grace about the way these situations are handled.

Offline essexfan548

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2511
Re: AGM
« Reply #116 on: December 06, 2022, 01:39:14 PM »
Former Essex chairman John Faragher has launched  a defamation  case against Essex CCC.  Grab some popcorn.
Presumably he has had sight of the forthcoming relort and doesn't like it.

He was saying that he wasn't even inteviewed when he was in the pavilion in April

Offline kingstonj1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1552
Re: AGM
« Reply #117 on: December 06, 2022, 08:35:47 PM »
Hes been stitched up by 2 people who didnt like the (successful) way he went about things, who took advantage of the febrile atmosphere in the game (and in general) about this topic. Everyone is guilty irrespective of the validity or likely validity of the claims, its Salem.

Its a tawdry situation we are in with those with unblemished records of decades of service are ruined by debatable and often political (not party) driven allegations of racism.

Not to say Rod Liddle is gospel but he wrote a very good comment abut this in the Sunday Times around the royal racism hoo ha.

A women whose heritage she happily promotes and quotes in great detail on her website including where her forbears are from, who is wearing an outfit from said region of that heritage (cultural approbation perhaps??), claims a silly old lady of a completely different reality (i mean a lady in waiting vs joe public), is racist for asking her in a undeniably clumsy and insensitive, (but definitely not clearly racist or not) way where her heritage is (we all know that what she meant yet the perpetually offended tar it they way they always do) and thus the whole royal family are racist. Like them or not its a load of nonsense where the worst is seen in everyone. What a horrible way to see the world, ffence and ill meaning in the slightest little thing.

The still, only proven beyond doubt (and i'm not saying rafiqs or chambers et al's allegations are all false) racist evidence in this whole sorry debate in cricket is against Mr Rafiq and our new chairman. Funny that.

Offline smandlej

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 481
Re: AGM
« Reply #118 on: December 06, 2022, 10:09:36 PM »
We still maintain that the expression in question is not at all racist (unless describing someone of another race) as it is used to cover a situation which can be caused by an inanimate or animate object.  In that way, it's no different to, say, using the expression 'cat among the pigeons', which may also cover a situation not involving felines or birds.

Lynda and Steve

Offline Perov

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1548
Re: AGM
« Reply #119 on: December 07, 2022, 06:59:39 AM »
We still maintain that the expression in question is not at all racist (unless describing someone of another race) as it is used to cover a situation which can be caused by an inanimate or animate object.  In that way, it's no different to, say, using the expression 'cat among the pigeons', which may also cover a situation not involving felines or birds.

Lynda and Steve

It should be remembered that the former chairman  still  insists that he never used the phrase in question.
An MP who used the phrase in 2017, Anne Marie Morris, lost the Party whip for 5 months, kept her job and then had the whip reinstated.
The two former board members who made the allegations ( 4 years later)  were not backed up by anyone else at that meeting.