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Offline smandlej

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Re: Members ballot
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2021, 11:47:40 AM »
As the rules say you can only leave your seat to go to the toilet, I have a couple of observations:

1.  How are you going to eat and drink if you can't leave your seat to buy anything and can't bring a bag with your lunch and tea in it?

2.  What, exactly, are you going to pay for with your card if you can't leave your seat to buy food or drink?

Maybe they're coming round with a trolley and a card-reader?

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Re: Members ballot
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2021, 12:27:52 PM »
As the rules say you can only leave your seat to go to the toilet, I have a couple of observations:

1.  How are you going to eat and drink if you can't leave your seat to buy anything and can't bring a bag with your lunch and tea in it?

2.  What, exactly, are you going to pay for with your card if you can't leave your seat to buy food or drink?

Maybe they're coming round with a trolley and a card-reader?

Lynda

The code of conduct doesn't say you can only leave your seat to use the loo. It does ask patrons to minimise movement and plan when to get up and be careful when passing others. Face coverings "may" be required except when eating or drinking.

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Re: Members ballot
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2021, 12:32:54 PM »
I liked the

No hi fives or hugging

Correct me if I am wrong,  but I don't recall that at any match I've been to!

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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2021, 12:37:01 PM »
So, has anyone actually read the ‘rules’?  Seems people are ‘interpreting’ them differently. 

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2021, 01:22:32 PM »
Yes, I've read them. I suspect T20 will be what the hugging comment related to. I imagine those games will be harder to "police"?

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Re: Members ballot
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2021, 03:19:44 PM »
This is what it says:

The following Spectator Code of Conduct will apply for all Stage Three matches. Stage Four matches may also be subject to the Spectator Code of Conduct however the Club awaits clarification from the Government and SGSA.

In order to assist our staff and stewards, and to help protect you and your fellow spectators, you are required under Government guidelines to adhere to the below spectator code of conduct.

•  You must not attend if you are suffering from COVID-19 symptoms, self-isolating, shielding or suspect you may have COVID-19. All ticket holders must complete and return the health self-assessment form 24 hours in advance of the match (see booking confirmation email for link).

•  Accurate contact information must be provided for all ticket holders for Club track and trace in addition to using the NHS COVID-19 app if requested.

•  Arrive in good time to go through all the necessary entry procedures including security and temperature checks. Please avoid bringing bags where possible in order to avoid delays on entry.  Entry time for ticket holders in your Stand / Block will be communicated to you 48 hours ahead of the event based on latest operational plans.

•  Be aware that medical mitigation will be in place for any attendee returning a high temperature on arrival. A second temperature check will be taken after an isolation period with entry refused if the result is not within Government guidelines.

•  Make sure in advance that you know where your entry point is, and, if an entry time is specified on your ticket, be there on time. This information will be stated in your booking confirmation and pre-match email if applicable.

•  Be aware that you may be required to wear a face covering in all parts of the ground for the duration of the event save for when eating or drinking. 

•  At all times and in all parts of the ground, observe social distancing and avoid close contact with others not in your social or support bubble.

•  Be aware that all payments inside the ground are contactless.

 •  If you need to access any of the ground’s amenities, such as toilets, food  and drink outlets, or concessions, check to see if any of them are not in use,  and plan accordingly.

•  Observe and adhere to all one-way systems in operation and any area of the ground closed off from use.

•  Remain in your seat at all times whenever possible. All tickets are allocated and you should only sit in the seat you have been assigned.

•  If you do need to leave your viewing position, wait for a time when the gangway is clear and always follow steward’s advice and/or signs indicating which way to go.

•  When in seated areas and moving past other spectators, to get to and from your seat, please avoid face-to-face contact with other spectators.

•  If you are in a standing area, please stay within your social or support bubble and remain aware of the movements of others at all times.

•  Avoid congregating on concourse areas.

•  Maintain good hand hygiene – use the sanitiser dispensers provided and avoid touching your face whenever possible.

•  Please do not approach players for “selfies” & or autographs.

•  Please observe respiratory etiquette – always cover your mouth if needing to cough or sneeze.

•  Avoid hugs, high-fives and any close contact with people who are not within your social or support bubble.

•  Avoid shouting, singing or celebrating.

•  When leaving the ground, please be patient, follow the instruction of stewards/staff  and observe social distancing guidelines.

• The above are in addition to all Essex CCC and ECB ground regulations.

•  If you are attending with other members of your social or support bubble, please make sure they have read and understood these guidelines too.

Any breach of this code of conduct may result in your ejection from the ground and loss of tickets to future games played during Stage Three restrictions.

Thank you for your support and co-operation. Stay alert. Stay safe. Help us all – your fellow fans, your Club, your sport, your community.

Please note the above Spectator Code of Conduct applies at time of purchase and issued in addition to the Ground Regulations available in full via the Club website or upon request from the Membership & Ticketing Office. Any amendment(s) as a result of changes in guidelines from Government or Sports Ground Safety Authority (SGSA) will be circulated no later than 24 hours before the event date.

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Re: Members ballot
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2021, 11:11:39 PM »

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Avoid shouting, singing or celebrating

Shouldn’t be too difficult.

Are they seriously providing toilet facilities? That’s not COVID secure.  Go before you arrive and hold on until close of play people! 

Or, given we have to remain in our seats, can we bring our own bottle?

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2021, 07:40:27 AM »
Is that right that the ground will be opening at 6am each day, so Mr Choat has sufficient time to read out the new regulations on top of the ones we regularly have to endure?

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2021, 08:12:42 AM »
The problem is that there are leading scientists, none of whom who are allowed anywhere near anything important through certain media outlets are predicting doom and gloom.

The way things are going, at the press conferences after June 21st they will be able to read out the names of the deaths and hospitalizations rather than the figures.


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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2021, 02:44:09 PM »
The problem is that there are leading scientists, none of whom who are allowed anywhere near anything important through certain media outlets are predicting doom and gloom.

The way things are going, at the press conferences after June 21st they will be able to read out the names of the deaths and hospitalizations rather than the figures.

Whilst I’m mindful of events where crowds start hugging each other under the influence of narcotics, I would say that red ball cricket crowds will be capable of using their common sense: social distancing is relatively easy, masks in queues or toilets, fill up with sanitzer etc.

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« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2021, 03:33:12 PM »
I've been supportive of the club so far in the way they've handled this, but as I predicted in a post here last month, they just outsourced the whole thing to the securicrats and produced a code of conduct that might as well say "Sorry we can't be a**ed to have people in the ground, so we've made the whole thing so unattractive that they will be forced to stay at home and watch the livestream" (while being sent demented by the interminable effusions of D Topley).
It would take too long to set all the horrors out in detail but here are a few for starters:
*Not being able to bring in a bag for an all day game is totally unreasonable, especially if there's no food on sale in the ground. So everyone has either to starve or go into town, mingling with more people than they otherwise would.
*There's no recognition that some older members don't use the internet or email. How are they supposed to get tickets?
*What on earth is the problem with allowing people in on day 4? If numbers are smaller, you don't need so many staff.
*Why do people have to turn up at set times? Why can't someone work in the morning and come down at lunchtime or teatime?
*Nothing re whether Meteor Way will be available. (NB the park and rise bus is currently suspended).

I'm very disappointed that Peter Northfield as chair of membership, who has always seemed genuinely on the side of members, has signed off on this.

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Re: Members ballot
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2021, 04:57:46 PM »
In addition, card payments for scorecards?

A member may have paid the subscription, have email,  had the vaccine, wear a mask, arrive at the alloted time, and keep to social distancing, and even have a basic mobile phone.
But if they don't have a smart phone with apps for contact tracing will they be barred?

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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2021, 05:17:37 PM »
How are some members who have issues that everything has to be ordered and set out for them in their life going to be able to cope with all this?


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Re: Members ballot
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2021, 05:37:13 PM »
you can bet your life that none of thiswill apply to the committee members.

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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2021, 05:57:25 PM »
The Club will say that "They" told us to do this. I did ask a snooty old woman Premier member when they made a statement about "They" giving an instruction, could it be confirmed who these people are.

"They" appear to be a large shadowy organisation the same as The Do Gooders who nobody knows who the members actually are.