Aussie 16 - 2017

[bwildered]

 Your 16 for Aussie 2017 are ?

[nat]

Cook
Darryl Mitchell
Anderson
Broad
Wood
Rashid
Crane
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Rushworth
Livingstone
Craig Overton
Foakes
Alex Davies
Lyth

[Andy]

Nat: 7 newbies, a couple of past failures - either you're smoking something or the ECB has really screwed up their squad development over the past year. 

I agree that there are 6 here who pick themselves, if more than 6 of the others go to Aussie, I fully expect Theresa May to win this year's Strictly...

[nat]

Nat: 7 newbies, a couple of past failures - either you're smoking something or the ECB has really screwed up their squad development over the past year. 

I agree that there are 6 here who pick themselves, if more than 6 of the others go to Aussie, I fully expect Theresa May to win this year's Strictly...

My squad is a better squad than the one the ECB will select.

[jwb]

Sorry but which Cook is that?

[nat]

Sorry but which Cook is that?

Bit early for Sam. Defo next tour.

[neil]

Sorry but which Cook is that?

Jimmy. Surely

We all know how much nat likes a saffer in the team!

 

[Andy]

Nat: 7 newbies, a couple of past failures - either you're smoking something or the ECB has really screwed up their squad development over the past year. 

I agree that there are 6 here who pick themselves, if more than 6 of the others go to Aussie, I fully expect Theresa May to win this year's Strictly...

My squad is a better squad than the one the ECB will select.

Maybe. All hail The Nat.

[Oldhasbeen]

Biggest question for me is whether Nat's been on the bottle, the whacky baccy or some rather stronger mind-expanding substance ....

Darryl Mitchell - 33, never really been in test frame before. Better than Robson, Stoneman, Hameed? I think not.
Chris Rushworth – 31, good English conditions bowler, but in Aus?
Lyth – found out before, uninspiring this season. His selection would have the aussies cheering big-time.
Livingstone, Craig Overton, Alex Davies, Crane all promising but how many newbies do we wan on one tour?
No Woakes, Toby R-J, Stoneman???
No Moen??? Now that would delight the Aussies
Foakes – does he have a shout as 2nd keeper/batsman? Could do worse

[nat]

Biggest question for me is whether Nat's been on the bottle, the whacky baccy or some rather stronger mind-expanding substance ....

Darryl Mitchell - 33, never really been in test frame before. Better than Robson, Stoneman, Hameed? I think not.
Chris Rushworth – 31, good English conditions bowler, but in Aus?
Lyth – found out before, uninspiring this season. His selection would have the aussies cheering big-time.
Livingstone, Craig Overton, Alex Davies, Crane all promising but how many newbies do we wan on one tour?
No Woakes, Toby R-J, Stoneman???
No Moen??? Now that would delight the Aussies
Foakes – does he have a shout as 2nd keeper/batsman? Could do worse

Fully sober ... now.

Never understood the excitement over Moen Ali. Look at his batting/bowling Test averages. Won't get many runs or take many wickets in Oz.

You think Stoneman or TRJ will have the Aussies shaking in their thongs?

Woakes - there are a million players like him in Oz. Their batsmen will eat him for breakfast.

Rushworth - I seem to remember an Aussie bowler called Alderman who did quite well in Oz. How about Hazelwood?

Mitchell - at least as good as those you mentioned. Why should age be a factor?

Lyth - has a bit of dog in him. Yes a poorish season this year. Will come again.

Overton - really impressive when I've seen him. Got a bit of a temper which will come in handy.

Davies and Foakes provide WK *and* batting competition.

All sounds logical to my fuzzy mind.

[neil]

Cook
Hameed
Stoneman
Root
Livingstone
Hales
Ballance
Bairstow
Foakes
Stokes
Woakes
Anderson
Broad
Ali
Crane
Wood
Curran (S)

[Oldhasbeen]

Never understood the excitement over Moeen Ali? Well, against the Saffers he became only the second England cricketer, after Botham to take 25 wickets and score more than 250 runs in a Test series ....and against good opposition.

No, Stoneman or TRJ will not have the Aussies shaking in their thongs, but they've done enough to merit going

Woakes has a test batting averages of 32 and bowling average of 30. NOt to mention 9 first class centuries. Please name the "million players like him in Oz"

Rushworth, Mitchell, Lyth - no evidence to back your claims. Not a prayer any of them will be picked

Overton, Davies, Foakes, Crane all plausible, wouldn't be surprised to see some of them make their test debuts in the next year or 2 ........ but do you really think any manager, coach  or captain is going to want to take more than 1 or at most 2 test rookies to Aus?  Most players take at least a few tests to find their feet, taking a hatful of rookies would be suicide.  Can you cite many cases of England rookies doing well in Aus? Ben Stokes in 2013 comes to mind - but the other rookies were all cr*p on that tour.

[Oldhasbeen]

Bayliss has made it clear than he doesn't expect any players  who haven't been selected in the last 18 months in the squad, although this is open to interpretation. Do Crane or Hales meet his criteria for inclusion?

However, Bayliss doesn't have a monopoly on selection and there are a few  CC games and the WI one-dayers to come .. could someone new break in?

[afinetickletoleg]

I wouldn't expect someone to break in to the test squad on the back of a few one day games.

[Oldhasbeen]

Worth a read:
http://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/16374/11029089/sky-sports-cricket-pundits-pick-england-squad-for-ashes