Essex Outfielder : The Unofficial Essex CCC Forum
Cricket => Official Q&A => Topic started by: Starfish on May 12, 2015, 10:56:12 AM
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Good morning,
Ahead of the first NatWest T20 Blast we will be adding content to the website of improvements made to the experience here at The E.C.G.
However, some headlines
- Parking. No parking at the ground except limited disabled / Premier Suite Members. Meteor Way £1 per car, limited to Members on a first come, first served basis. Parking also available for all games, excluding Surrey, at Our Lady Immaculate School (at top of driveway).
- Giant screen - will show replays (non Sky games) and crowd interaction and behind the scenes content and exclusive interviews.
- New seat area colour coding - we have split the ground into different colour segments making it easier for the non regular attendee to find their area / seat
- Meet the players - this will take place shortly after play in the Pavilion for the Surrey game and pitch side for all other games
- Members restaurant - available for the T20 Surrey game, see website for this excellent value deal
- Improved food offering - new location opposite the shop, a tasty Hog Roast for Surrey game! New donut stall (where I will be located!)
- Gate opening times - 2 hours before
- Usual rules of no importation of alcohol / glass
- Shop open as well as the mini shops around the ground
- Gates - we will revert to our T20 set-up with the main gate being located on the driveway. River Gate located in Sky Blue Pastures. We will be asking spectators to scan in on entry and ONLY scan out when leaving the ground. We will stop scanning out in advance of the last ball.
- New Print @ Home - option to print your tickets from home
We want to deliver on the improved experience, please don't hesitate to contact us with any queries, thanks, Danny
Thanks, Danny
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Sounds ghastly.
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Sounds ghastly.
It's T20 what do you expect.
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Welcome to the future. Glad I got a few years in before cricket died .
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Don't see what the problem is. I remember Mike Brearley writning in the 1970s about the parlous state of the county game and how members got to see X days cricket for nothing. Without T20 the game would simply die quicker.
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It may as well. No one within the game respects or values first class cricket or its history or the people who watch it. They erode it at every opportunity, unlike earlier versions of the shorter game T20 and championship cricket cannot live in harmony for very long as today's custodians of the game only know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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It may as well. No one within the game respects or values first class cricket or its history or the people who watch it.
...and how many people watch first class cricket? It has tended to be niche - we forget this because we had a successful and entertaining side in the 70s/80s but it's always been the shorter forms that keep the interst alive - as much as I prefer the test of two innings cricket.
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Crowds may not be brilliant for county cricket but Cricinfo records loads of traffic for live scorecards so there is still interest in the format.
Even if Essex are doing their level best to kill the longer form of the game.
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Crowds may not be brilliant for county cricket but Cricinfo records loads of traffic for live scorecards so there is still interest in the format.
Even if Essex are doing their level best to kill the longer form of the game.
If that is the case, and I too believe Essex have little interest in Championship cricket - individually or collectively, the Club are doing themselves no favours whatsoever, (they've given up caring what their members or supporters think!) When franchise based T20 makes it inevitable appearance at a Test match ground nowhere near you, ECCC will be locked out of the format that they lust after above all else.
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Crowds may not be brilliant for county cricket but Cricinfo records loads of traffic for live scorecards so there is still interest in the format.
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Doesn't pay the bills though.
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Crowds may not be brilliant for county cricket but Cricinfo records loads of traffic for live scorecards so there is still interest in the format.
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Doesn't pay the bills though.
Maybe not in the short term but the Cricinfo readers of today are the members of tomorrow.
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Its a myth that t20 is keeping the first class game alive. Maybe in the short term it is true on a purely financial level but long term t20 will destroy traditional cricket. Then we get the argument that if not enough people watch then it must go, capitalist laws of the jungle and all that, well lots of good things have gone out the window due to that theory and are still being lost today.
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Its a myth that t20 is keeping the first class game alive. Maybe in the short term it is true on a purely financial level but long term t20 will destroy traditional cricket. Then we get the argument that if not enough people watch then it must go, capitalist laws of the jungle and all that, well lots of good things have gone out the window due to that theory and are still being lost today.
Well, I'm sure people were saying the same about the 40 over Sunday league back in 1969. They were wrong then.
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How well would Essex be doing financially without T20?
If it is true that it accounts for about 70% of our income then what sort of championship team would we be able to field without it?
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what sort of championship team would we be able to field without it?
What sort of championship team do we field with it?
Being priced out of the market for the likes of Greg Smith would be a good thing.
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what sort of championship team would we be able to field without it?
since T20 started we've spent 1 year in CC Div 1, so hopefully a better team than that.
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what sort of championship team would we be able to field without it?
since T20 started we've spent 1 year in CC Div 1, so hopefully a better team than that.
How, precisely? We might not be a club anyomore by now relying upon a few grumbling crumblies who expect a lot for a little.
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what sort of championship team would we be able to field without it?
since T20 started we've spent 1 year in CC Div 1, so hopefully a better team than that.
How, precisely? We might not be a club anyomore by now relying upon a few grumbling crumblies who expect a lot for a little.
All counties would be the same as they were pre T20 and cricket would have carried on in this country without the need for counties to fold and we would be in the same position as all the other counties. Napier, Foster, Topely etc aren't with us because of T20 money and my point as mentioned is that since T20 we've spent 1 year in CC Div 1 and i wouldnt consider that a success. Look at the Bravo fiasco, thats where the T20 money went that year not on improving the side for the CC.
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Look at the Bravo fiasco
The club deserved to come unstuck with that stunt.
Although saying that I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to parachute in a ringer for another finals day.
If they get that far of course.
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Look at the Bravo fiasco
The club deserved to come unstuck with that stunt.
Although saying that I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to parachute in a ringer for another finals day.
If they get that far of course.
They cant, we already have our 2 o/s players in Ryder and Tait. One of those would have to miss out
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Look at the Bravo fiasco
The club deserved to come unstuck with that stunt.
Although saying that I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to parachute in a ringer for another finals day.
If they get that far of course.
I always thought the criticism of that was unfair. They had Styris for the group matches but he was unavailable for finals day so they got a replacement for him. It's not as if they were trying to get some kind of unfair advantage by doing it. They just swapped one unavailable overseas player for one who was available. Especially as Napier was injured and tendo was supposed to have missed it( he ended up rushing back and playing before he was properly ready).
I think they might have changed the rules now anyway. I think there's a mimimum period for overseas players.
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Napier, Foster, Topely etc aren't with us because of T20 money
Aren't they? Could we afford them all without it?
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It's not as if they were trying to get some kind of unfair advantage by doing it.
I'd say registering a player for games he had no intention of playing meets the definition of ringer.
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Napier, Foster, Topely etc aren't with us because of T20 money
Aren't they? Could we afford them all without it?
i have no idea, but could any other County as no T20 wouldnt just impact on ECCC.
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Napier, Foster, Topely etc aren't with us because of T20 money
Aren't they? Could we afford them all without it?
i have no idea, but could any other County as no T20 wouldnt just impact on ECCC.
I imagine that Surrey could, and Warwickshire and Hampshire as well to name three. It could well lead to a football situation where a few teams would collect all of the best players.
I get that not everyone likes T20 but it has to be accepted that it generates the vast majority of our current income.
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You're dead right it would have ended up with a few counties having all the best players if players would be happy to be bench warmers.
i like the T20 but cant see how this has been of any benefit to any of our CC campaigns.
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It's not as if they were trying to get some kind of unfair advantage by doing it.
I'd say registering a player for games he had no intention of playing meets the definition of ringer.
Nah - a Ringer is a talented person pretending to be useless but actually comes good.
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Napier, Foster, Topely etc aren't with us because of T20 money
Aren't they? Could we afford them all without it?
i have no idea, but could any other County as no T20 wouldnt just impact on ECCC.
I imagine that Surrey could, and Warwickshire and Hampshire as well to name three. It could well lead to a football situation where a few teams would collect all of the best players.
I get that not everyone likes T20 but it has to be accepted that it generates the vast majority of our current income.
No it does not. This myth has been perpetuated by the club and the commercial director in particular for too long. The majority of the club's income comes from the ECB handout and membership income.
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Napier, Foster, Topely etc aren't with us because of T20 money
Aren't they? Could we afford them all without it?
i have no idea, but could any other County as no T20 wouldnt just impact on ECCC.
I imagine that Surrey could, and Warwickshire and Hampshire as well to name three. It could well lead to a football situation where a few teams would collect all of the best players.
I get that not everyone likes T20 but it has to be accepted that it generates the vast majority of our current income.
No it does not. This myth has been perpetuated by the club and the commercial director in particular for too long. The majority of the club's income comes from the ECB handout and membership income.
ECB handout possibly but I cannot see the membership income outdoing the income generated from the T20 matches considering the price of tickets, the additional cost of guaranteeing a seat and the cost of, and amount of, beer drunk.
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Isn't membership circa 5,000?
In which case income should not be sniffed at & the club should try to generate value for money on the field.
Instead of just talking about it.
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Isn't membership circa 5,000?
In which case income should not be sniffed at & the club should try to generate value for money on the field.
Instead of just talking about it.
The on field performance is a great point and even the T20 crowds will drop if performances carry on the way they have started.
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Reinstate the Southend Cricket Festival at Garons would certainly please many in the area.Even a 20/20 would be a step in the right direction.