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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: JasonP on August 01, 2018, 03:35:36 PM
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Ryan ten Doeschate (27) Captain
Adam Wheater (31) Wicket-keeper
Ravi Bopara (25)
Varun Chopra (6)
Matt Coles (1)
Sam Cook (16)
James Foster (7) Wicket-keeper
Simon Harmer (11)
Dan Lawrence (28)
Jamie Porter (44)
Matt Quinn (94)
Peter Siddle (64)
Paul Walter (22)
Adam Zampa (88)
Westley out injured and Zaidi seems to have disappeared. Is Foster really the next best T20 batsman we have got? Very bowler heavy team will happen again. I expect Harmer at 7 and Siddle at 8 if McGraths previous selections are anything to go by with either Foster or Walter in for Westley and Siddle for Wagner.
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Must be the weakest line up from us for a T20 match for all time. Westley out and no replacement batsman. Only 5 front line batsmen and that includes wicketkeeper batsman, Wheater, and Lawrence who I do not think has ever made a 50 in this form of the game. With this line up it is not easy to see a win from any of these 3 matches in 4 days. Clearly the Club had written of the T20 Competition before it even started - little regard for all those who have bought tickets in advance.
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Must be the weakest line up from us for a T20 match for all time. Westley out and no replacement batsman. Only 5 front line batsmen and that includes wicketkeeper batsman, Wheater, and Lawrence who I do not think has ever made a 50 in this form of the game. With this line up it is not easy to see a win from any of these 3 matches in 4 days. Clearly the Club had written of the T20 Competition before it even started - little regard for all those who have bought tickets in advance.
Whilst agreeing that the batting line up is horrendous, I do at least think that having Foster instead of Westley will actually strengthen the batting and Siddle instead of Wagner will also make the bowling better. Still a very weak T20 team though but stronger than the last match I feel, but still unlikely to win more than 1 of the next three matches (at best!).
I think the club, whilst perhaps not actually writing off the competition before it started, has got very complacent about it, as they know that most of the matches will be all but sold out, despite how rubbish the team actually is!
Soon be back to proper cricket..........
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I actually fancy us to spring a surprise. Westley not playing and Siddle is a canny operator in T20.
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So Harmer at no. 6! Must have been practicing hard.
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Chopra
Wheater
Lawrence
ten Doeschate
Bopara
Walter
Harmer
Coles
Siddle
Zampa
Porter
Walter for Westley gives you 7 frontline bowlers plus Lawrence and tendo. Why do we need so many bowlers in a T20 match? Harmer at 7 again! Coles has done very little with the bat in 1st or 2nd XI cricket this season. Surely there's got to be a better way of balancing the side than this?
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So Harmer at no. 6! Must have been practicing hard.
I hope Walter will be ahead of him!
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Another miserable performance.
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Can we have no more talk about going on a run, admit we are out, save Cook and Porter for the proper stuff and play seem youngsters.
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I cannot get my head round this team selection....
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With Lawrence now injured long term...Foster has to play and keep wicket. A shambles.
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A shambles again with Porter once again bowling just the 3 overs!! We looked what we are in T20 this year - a poor unbalanced side, Zampa must wonder what he has signed up to & I will be surprised if we win another game in this group. Just 4 batsmen in double figures which put too much pressure on Ravi & then Coles, at least Walter justified being put at 3 but little consolation. Interesting to see Sun stopping play - that doesn't happen very often. I bet Sky must be really looking forward to our next appearance on TV v Gloucs - Not!!
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This lad Patel deserves a go. Hit 5 consecutive fours at Coggeshall today
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My - What a big surprise !! Never thought that we had much of a chance in this match and we didn't look anything like winning after 10 minutes of the game. Why only five front line batsmen ? Batsmen win T20 matches not bowlers. Actually comparing us with Kent man for man we are not in the same league as them !!
The "Silverwood effect" has gradually worn off - next Season could be very difficult !??
So a dead T20 competition with half the games to go. I have tickets for three of them - I certainly wont make that mistake again next Season.
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Bopara just "liked" a tweet saying its a joke that he's coming in as low as 5 and 6. The tweet is 100% correct. After the first game tendo batted at 4 he said in an interview that it hasn't worked and he'd be going back down the order. He did for one match and then moved himself back up to 4 again. Bopara has always batted 4 and tendo 5 or 6. I can't see the logic in changing it. Bopara has always been someone who preferred to get himself in and tendo has been a finisher.
The last few games we've seen Finch, Munro and Stoinis all make good contributions against us and yet we felt we didn't need an overseas batsman when it was so obvious to everyone we did. Everyone that is except McGrath. A guy that thinks Harmer is a number 7 batsman. A guy who comes across as an incredibly unimpressive person as well as a poor coach.
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Not only does the cupboard seem bare, but the Emoeror has no new clothes!!!
From the moment Wheater was bowled by a beauty from Denly, a long sloe death, chasing 190 odd was inevitable.
Without details of all these injuries suddenly manifesting themselves, I hope players are not hiding behind them to avoid playing. Smacks a little of that to me.
Where do we go from here? The prospect of three games in four days with a strong squad, is daunting enough, but with our line up, one dreads the outcomes.
As it is likely that this decline will continue, it is very difficult to think that it will not impact on the rest of the season, which does not bear thinking about.
The selection of our overseas players must be questioned. Saddle has performed admirably with the red ball, but the white ball is different, and he is well past his best. Zampa has done all and more than could have been expected.of him, but has received little support in the field.
The ugly truth is surely, that we have not selected well in the overseas department, and thus have little cutting edge with bat and ball.
The table does not lie. The results reflect our position and we must accept that we are very poor with little sign of improvement in the near future.
At least I do not have to drag myself to Chelmsford to endure prolonged suffering, but little solace as I am watching Hampshire, a team on paper at least, much much stronger than Essex, but still capable of playing some of the most irresponsible cricket I have ever seen.
Who would have thought Essex and Hampshire propping up the South Division?
Tomorrow I have the dubious delight of seeing Hampshire v Kent. On tonight’s performance, Kent should walk it, but one never knows.
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Bopara just "liked" a tweet saying its a joke that he's coming in as low as 5 and 6. The tweet is 100% correct. After the first game tendo batted at 4 he said in an interview that it hasn't worked and he'd be going back down the order. He did for one match and then moved himself back up to 4 again. Bopara has always batted 4 and tendo 5 or 6. I can't see the logic in changing it. Bopara has always been someone who preferred to get himself in and tendo has been a finisher.
The last few games we've seen Finch, Munro and Stoinis all make good contributions against us and yet we felt we didn't need an overseas batsman when it was so obvious to everyone we did. Everyone that is except McGrath. A guy that thinks Harmer is a number 7 batsman. A guy who comes across as an incredibly unimpressive person as well as a poor coach.
Sadly, everything I said BEFORE the season about McGrath (and during it, to some criticism from certain parties) is looking like it has a lot of merit :( (and I dont say that with any pleasure as I honestly and truly wished that I had been wrong about him) Ditto too for the hapless Coles (he's totally lived down to my expectations so far too!).
This must just about be the worst T20 side Essex have ever had and they really aren't much above being called an embarrassment. Siddle, Porter and Zampa all bowled pretty well i thought, but the rest were rubbish, ditto the batsmen apart from Walter (uhmm, i thought he was supposed to be a bowler who also batted, so why didnt he get a single over?) and Bopara.
No hope and nowhere to go now for the rest of this competition, still half the matches to go too! :(
RUBBISH!
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Walter took most T/20 wickets last season but doesn't get a bowl, after FINALLY getting selected. Why did it take so long?
Harmer yet again proves he is no asset in T/20, but seems undroppable.Why?
Things need to change, and quickly.
I suggest:
Chopra
Bopara
Walter
Patel
Tendo
Wheater
Foster*
Zampa
Siddell
Quinn
Porter
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Walter took most T/20 wickets last season but doesn't get a bowl, after FINALLY getting selected. Why did it take so long?
Harmer yet again proves he is no asset in T/20, but seems undroppable.Why?
Things need to change, and quickly.
I suggest:
Chopra
Bopara
Walter
Patel
Tendo
Wheater
Foster*
Zampa
Siddell
Quinn
Porter
Tail too long.Regarding Bopara batting too low down he has only got himself to blame. Over the past couple of seasons he has batted far too slowly. Latterly he appears to re-discovered his mojo. However it has been justified to drop him down the order.
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A guy who comes across as an incredibly unimpressive person as well as a poor coach.
We've been down this road before.
Lets hope it doesn't take nigh on a decade to rectify the mistake this time.
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Does anybody know what the situation s regarding Ashar Zaidi ???
Is he injured, just unavailable (for whatever reason) or has he left the country ???
Can anybody within the Essex CCC shed any light ???
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Does anybody know what the situation s regarding Ashar Zaidi ???
Is he injured, just unavailable (for whatever reason) or has he left the country ???
Can anybody within the Essex CCC shed any light ???
He tweeted a couple of days ago that he is fit, training hard and hoping to be involved soon. Make of that what you will.
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I still want to know what happened to his black bat.
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Does anybody know what the situation s regarding Ashar Zaidi ???
Is he injured, just unavailable (for whatever reason) or has he left the country ???
Can anybody within the Essex CCC shed any light ???
He tweeted a couple of days ago that he is fit, training hard and hoping to be involved soon. Make of that what you will.
He's playing for the 2nds today in the T20 against Kent. I presumed he was injured. If he hasn't been then that makes the selections even more of a joke.
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He's playing for the 2nds today in the T20 against Kent. I presumed he was injured. If he hasn't been then that makes the selections even more of a joke.
Got a golden ...
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Taylor got a first baller too. Kent need 130 to win match 1
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He's playing for the 2nds today in the T20 against Kent. I presumed he was injured. If he hasn't been then that makes the selections even more of a joke.
Got a golden ...
50 in game 2. How he doesn't even make the squad with Westley and Lawrence injured I have no idea. He should be playing when eveyone is fit.
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He's playing for the 2nds today in the T20 against Kent. I presumed he was injured. If he hasn't been then that makes the selections even more of a joke.
Got a golden ...
A falling out? RTD and perhaps others were not impressed with his fielding in some of the earlier games.
50 in game 2. How he doesn't even make the squad with Westley and Lawrence injured I have no idea. He should be playing when eveyone is fit.
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He's playing for the 2nds today in the T20 against Kent. I presumed he was injured. If he hasn't been then that makes the selections even more of a joke.
Got a golden ...
A falling out? RTD and perhaps others were not impressed with his fielding in some of the earlier games.
50 in game 2. How he doesn't even make the squad with Westley and Lawrence injured I have no idea. He should be playing when eveyone is fit.
I've no idea but he played the first game in the competition and was in the squad for the 4 after that without playing. Then last night he's dropped from the squad when we're a batsman down in Westley and now can't get in when we're two batsman down.