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Offline Oldhasbeen

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Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« on: April 30, 2023, 07:29:29 AM »
Anyone read the Cricketer article "Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy as ECB and counties consider sweeping changes"?
My summary:
- it's cost a LOT of money (c£57m)
- women's 100 has been a success, men's hasn't
- disappointing returns. In particular, the hope that the rest of the world would take up the format has proved pie-in-the sky and BBC audience ratings are in decline
- Many at ECB would like to bin it and restructure the T20 game into a 2-divisional game contest and a knockout contest
- Biggest obstacle to binning it is Sky contract to 2027.

What next?

Offline smandlej

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2023, 07:46:43 AM »
Best news I've heard in years.

If they had any thoughts that other countries would adopt the format, most of us could have told them (without an expensive consultant's fee) that it would never happen.  And if the audience figures for the men's game is falling on the BBC, then it must also be falling on Sky: if figures for T20 are still good, then maybe Sky would do a deal on more T20 games instead of men's 16.4.

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Offline Andy

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2023, 11:40:09 AM »
And Andrew Strauss has just resigned. 

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2023, 12:31:42 PM »
The ECB are still eyeing external investment- ie selling the franchises to the highest bidders(and don't mention their human rights record). For that reason I think it's unlikely that they'd completely replace the Hundred (much though many of us wish they would). They need the money to attract the best players and compete with all the other franchise tournaments. Quite how they end up balancing the counties and these franchises, I don't know. But at the moment the Hundred is a second rate tournament with a format that no one else is going to play and there is no obvious route out of the mess they got into.
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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2023, 01:15:44 PM »
I always thought that if England needed a super league the best model would have been six regional county combined sides (Yorks, Lancs, Durham; Essex, Surrey Middlesex etc) with teams picked from the constituent counties plus two or three centrally contracted overseas. Every county HQ to host one game to take it round the country.

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2023, 03:29:29 PM »
There is a proposed T20 league in Saudi Arabia. So the Mens Hundred can be played in the place where all those jobs are.

The City of Jeopardy is in Saudi Arabia.

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2023, 07:10:56 AM »
 But still playing for your county side, only for the start of your career, before progression .

England players signing full-time contracts with teams owned by Indian Premier League (IPL) franchises is "coming", says former England and IPL player Ravi Bopara.

A report in The Times this week said six English players had been approached about year-long deals, worth up to £5m.

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2023, 08:35:46 AM »
As Bopara didn't even know where Sussex was when he signed for them taking anything he says seriously about anything is stretching credulity.

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2023, 09:16:57 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised, especially if we lose to Australia, to see quite a number of players disappear from the England set up this year. For example, Stokes may feel the need to cash in before injury stops him playing. Some of the white ball specialists couldn't turn down the sort of money on offer. It means more opportunities for young players coming through at England and county level. Maybe that would be quite a good thing. I do find it ironic that players like Root are sitting on the bench doing nothing in India when they really ought to be tuning up for the Ashes in the championship yet England wouldn't let Pietersen play in the IPL.

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2023, 09:33:15 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised, especially if we lose to Australia, to see quite a number of players disappear from the England set up this year. For example, Stokes may feel the need to cash in before injury stops him playing. Some of the white ball specialists couldn't turn down the sort of money on offer. It means more opportunities for young players coming through at England and county level. Maybe that would be quite a good thing. I do find it ironic that players like Root are sitting on the bench doing nothing in India when they really ought to be tuning up for the Ashes in the championship yet England wouldn't let Pietersen play in the IPL.

Yes, but who wants a sociopath in their team?

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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2023, 02:59:25 PM »
The competition isn't going away, Sky will see to that. They have too much power regarding English cricket thanks to the old regime effectively handcuffing us to them through TV deals and Sky are as desperate for it to succeed as they were, putting every inch of their resources into the comp.

The problem is that its inadvertently killing the ECB financially, who are losing around £30m every year the competition takes place in its current guise due to the 9m costs and 23m paid to the counties every year for their compliance. Add that to the fact that the ECB very soon need to find a load of cash very soon to start paying England players enough money to avoid a full-time franchise life and it's a big financial problem for them.

Gut feeling is that they'll keep the competition as it is (maybe change it to 20 overs), possibly add another two/three teams to cover the whole country, then sell them all off to private investors, palming off all the player wage costs to them. They'll then bung all the remaining non hosting counties an extra wad of cash per year to shut them up and cover the growing financial gap between hosting and non hosting counties.

I feel sorry for Gould and Thompson, they really have been left up s**t creek by the old regime.
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Re: Future of the men's Hundred in jeopardy?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2023, 03:27:21 PM »
And...it is being reported that the ECB is once again trying to kill off county cricket with a set of proposals that look remarkably similar to those of the so-called High Performance Review.

It was always going to happen, they were never going to accept defeat by county members. It seems clear that Strauss has gone so that a new 'face' can drive forward these proposals.

Time to man the barricades again.