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« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2016, 04:44:52 PM »
Apparently surrey are not having the city thing in the oval I am sure the mcc is not so keen to have it at lords that leaves probably the Olympic stadium and after getting caught up with west ham fans disgruntled at not being able to stand up. There is going to be problems. Easy to picket though.

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« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2016, 07:41:27 PM »
Maths is not my strong point but I think 1.3 times 18 is 23.4. Presumably this is new money and clear profit after paying  players and the host counties. Seems overly optimistic to me for a two week tournament.  Most of this would be expected to come from the TV contract. Can't see BBC bidding even with the money they've saved from bake off. So the odds are it will be on Murdoch TV with perhaps some on BT sport.

If some of the games are not on free to air TV then the ECB's claim to be growing the game will prove to be so much hogwash.

The zECB need to remember that cricket makes money to exist not the other way around.



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« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2016, 08:15:40 PM »
Its not new money going to be generated by this as its completely cannibalistic, with it running concurrently it will take money away from the shires. People who watch this, will be the same as those who would otherwise have watched the Blast. very few 'new' fans will go to watch it. Unless they give tickets away, you will still see half full grounds at Sofia Gardens, the Ageas, Trent Bridge, Old Trafford, Edgbaston, Headingley and the Riverside (if used). Indeed Warwickshires name change in T20 has had. I remember reading, 0 to negative impact on attendances and aliented countless members.
The Oval and Lords will always sell out or be close to as its an easy after work jolly up, and will remain so regardless of who's playing.

You have to think there will be 2 London teams (regardless of what people are saying on here, I'm sure the Oval and Lords will be hosts, if not the Olympic stadium will be used), Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester, Cardiff, Nottingham, Southampton. That's 8 teams already. Maybe Durham labelled as Newcastle in stead of one of them, although no idea whom as Cardiff is seen as strategic.

We are hard done by, but even more so are West Country fans as there nearest team will be Cardiff, unless they roam via Bristol and unlikely Taunton, as a Western Wanderers side.

I cannot see how it will work in any way as the demographics are completely different here to Oz, most people do not live in cities, and by centralising it in cities you are taking away access from most if the population. Not to mention alienating countless existing followers in places like York's and Lancs - Scousers wont support a Manchester team and most of York's will hate a Leeds team.

The whole scheme is a disgusting short term blinkered greedfest, driven by those who want to destroy county cricket in all forms as we know it, supported by ex players who have benefitted from it yet now despise it, Atherton Strauss, Willis, Vaughan etc.
Graves is a disgusting human being successful yet, but a horrible person and Harrison is little better. They have got their wish however and will have destroyed the shires and the county game long term as we know it.

Its inevitable long term, the counties will become semi professional, as the minor counties are now, with all cricket played in regions/cities or franchises. At least when that happens the existing 1st class counties along with the current minor counties will form a truly national competition, albeit it semi pro at best. At least then 'festivals', well at least more grounds, will be used you would think but it will be a pale imitation of what we have now.

Sad times.

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« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2016, 08:42:43 PM »
I am in favour of all this.

One simple reason all the cretins can disappear off to the franchise. They can go to the Olympic stadium and stand during play to their hearts content. Just look at a West Ham United home game  for a guide of how to be socially unacceptable in sports stadia.

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« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2016, 05:06:20 AM »
The official blurb is that not enough people who follow cricket remotely actually come to a game and there are not enough new supporters coming through. This is despite the introduction of T20 in this country several years ago, so the ECB's solution is to introduce more of the same allowing Sky to marginalise the coverage to 20 odd percent of the population AND make it all even more remote by having just six teams at city stadia. Well done brain boxes, next step T20 on the moon with coverage sold to North Korean TV.

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« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2016, 02:57:10 PM »
According to today's Daily Mail Harrison is quoted as saying that the aim is for artificial pitches for the Franchise comp - I can't see Surrey or MCC allowing their hallowed turfs to be dug up especially as The Oval is one of the best wickets in England & MCC won't want Lords disfigured, that kind of lets in Stratford especially if the tournament is played in July in 2/3 weeks.

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« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2016, 08:21:07 PM »
I don't often praise the ECC management but they should be commended for arranging a Q and A session at very short notice on the last day of the Glamorgan game last week and also for arranging a proper forum for October 4th on the T20 scheme. Unfortunately I'll be away but I hope everyone who can be there takes the chance to turn up and leave the committee in no doubt about how many members feel about this. (And if someone would be kind enough to post a short report on here,that would be great)

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« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2016, 12:41:20 PM »
I went to the forum last night and put my thoughts in the AGM page at the top of the board.  would be very happy to answer any questions on the ECB T20 response from ECCC as that was the only subject covered.

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« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2016, 10:37:07 AM »
Looks like ECB might have taken on board the opposition to the t20 franchise being played at the same time as the championship. Latest wheeze is a new limited overs competition involving minor counties. One county chairman has had the temerity to suggest the ECB is making it up as it goes along.

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« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2016, 11:25:31 AM »
Looks like ECB might have taken on board the opposition to the t20 franchise being played at the same time as the championship. Latest wheeze is a new limited overs competition involving minor counties. One county chairman has had the temerity to suggest the ECB is making it up as it goes along.

So not too different to my idea about playing some 40 over games in that period.

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« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2016, 02:02:04 PM »
Looks like ECB might have taken on board the opposition to the t20 franchise being played at the same time as the championship. Latest wheeze is a new limited overs competition involving minor counties. One county chairman has had the temerity to suggest the ECB is making it up as it goes along.

you couldn't make it up!

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« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2016, 04:17:02 PM »
Looks like ECB might have taken on board the opposition to the t20 franchise being played at the same time as the championship. Latest wheeze is a new limited overs competition involving minor counties. One county chairman has had the temerity to suggest the ECB is making it up as it goes along.

you couldn't make it up!

An emergent strategy, as we would tell our students.

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« Reply #72 on: October 17, 2016, 06:33:04 PM »
Perhaps it's a part of the long term strategy for when the Test grounds finally manage to cast the rest of us aside increasing the number of minor counties by 10.

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Re: Stop the ECB from taking cricket away from the counties!
« Reply #73 on: October 17, 2016, 07:31:03 PM »
Looks like ECB might have taken on board the opposition to the t20 franchise being played at the same time as the championship. Latest wheeze is a new limited overs competition involving minor counties. One county chairman has had the temerity to suggest the ECB is making it up as it goes along.

you couldn't make it up!

An emergent strategy, as we would tell our students.

SNAFU

alji

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« Reply #74 on: October 18, 2016, 03:42:17 PM »
Now it's off till 2020. Resign Graves and Harrison, resign!