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Offline IlfordEagle

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2015, 09:33:01 PM »
Not sure if I'm correct but doesn't the Ground/Outfield have to be a minimum size like with football pitches?
Essex's problem is that they cannot really expand in 3 out of 4 directions (only backwards from the current Pavilion & by going back we will lose the Car Park & GG Cricket School). Garon Park could be developed & is certainly a fair size but transport links are poor, the railway is 20/30 minutes away & the Ground itself suffers from cold winds etc, the wicket too isn't great.
Chelmsford is an ideal location as it is slap bang in Mid Essex  but if we stay where we are then the capacity won't really increase that much. 

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2015, 08:45:23 AM »
What is the current capacity and what will it be once this work is complete?

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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2015, 08:40:50 PM »
well there are several single storey stands which could be multi storey, there are hospitallity tents which could be stands (which could incorperate hospitallity whether we have enough money for that i dont know?

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2015, 09:56:38 PM »
I believe the current capacity is 6,500 seats, not sure if & how many people are allowed to stand in addition (only for T20 I think), the 'new' Ground was going to be 8,500 so an additional 2,000 seats are to be added presumably mainly in the new Pavilion & surrounding area. A great pity we seem committed to spending  a few million for a modest increase & this will take a considerable time for Essex to recover the costs in Match receipts etc, it will also lead to increased traffic on match days in an already congested area (rush hour driving into Chelmsford now is very slow especially on Fridays for T20 night matches.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2015, 08:24:59 AM »
Thanks IlfordEagle, that was my thinking but i wasn't sure.  I do struggle to get my head around why all this work just for an increase of 2K. 

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2015, 11:52:43 AM »
So, when are the rest of us who couldn't get a ticket going to be consulted?

As someone that has supported the club since the late 1960s I think I deserve a say.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2015, 12:05:16 PM »
The only "stakeholders" the club are interested in are the 20/20 boozehounds.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2015, 01:01:58 PM »
Thanks IlfordEagle, that was my thinking but i wasn't sure.  I do struggle to get my head around why all this work just for an increase of 2K.

You fail to understand the main reason for the re-development. The main reason is to increase and improve the facilities for corporate customers.

The second reason is to provide better facilities for players.

Any improvements for 'normal' spectators come a distant third in the list of priorities.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2015, 10:47:27 AM »
I believe the current capacity is 6,500 seats, not sure if & how many people are allowed to stand in addition (only for T20 I think), the 'new' Ground was going to be 8,500 so an additional 2,000 seats are to be added presumably mainly in the new Pavilion & surrounding area. A great pity we seem committed to spending  a few million for a modest increase & this will take a considerable time for Essex to recover the costs in Match receipts etc, it will also lead to increased traffic on match days in an already congested area (rush hour driving into Chelmsford now is very slow especially on Fridays for T20 night matches.

An increase in capacity in any sporting arena, has to meet strict criteria both in terms of licensing authorities, as well as the ability of the surrounding transport/road infrastructure to cope with the resultant increase in footfall.
So, for example, I'm sure ECCC would have rather liked an increase to 10,000. The problem is the aforementioned infrastructure would reach gridlock quickly and consistenly. Circulation space is a key consideration too. I would suggest that a 6k attendance at the ECG feels uncomfortably constricted, with inadequate toilet and catering, not to mention shelter from bad weather. The more people you throw into the mix, on basically the same footprint would only exacerbate such issues.

Now, add in a high density series of apartment blocks - 350 I understand? Each dwelling occupier has an average of 1.25 cars = (437 vehicles). I've personally seen no explanation, apart from the vague promise of a multi-storey car park, of where exactly these cars are going to go? Add into the transport issues, of how the narrow New Writtle Street will cope with cricket attendees, as well as allowing apartment occupiers, free and unrestricted access/egress to their homes? Do you think they may be a little upset if they are late for their trip to the supermarket because they are unable to leave site
Stop and consider that the ECG is served by this sole vehicle access route - then stop and think how any of the emergency services will have the capability to respond to any emergency during a Friday night at the ground.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2015, 07:55:49 PM »
Is there still going to be a foot bridge from central park?

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2015, 08:27:03 PM »
Sadly New Writtle Street is not really fit for purpose.

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2015, 12:09:41 AM »
Is there still going to be a foot bridge from central park?
bet that will get knocked on the head now the money has dried up.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2015, 09:42:57 AM »
The only "stakeholders" the club are interested in are the 20/20 boozehounds.

which is a shame as the best T20 game in the last few years, for atmosphere et al, was the Sussex game which was played on a Sunday afternoon.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2015, 03:34:13 PM »
Is there still going to be a foot bridge from central park?

Yes.

Connection to the City Centre was one of  the main points of the scheme.

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Re: Ground Redevelopment continued
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2015, 06:42:39 PM »
Is there still going to be a foot bridge from central park?

Yes.

Connection to the City Centre was one of  the main points of the scheme.
can I ask what information you have to be certain of that quincy ?