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Offline afinetickletoleg

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2014, 12:59:32 PM »
Fact is the media want simple stories. Cook isn't a good tactician, we all know this, and has had a sustained run of poor form not helped by the KP affair. Consequently the narrative is all doom and gloom.

Morgan, on the other hand, has been overshadowed by all this (which has helped him) and as there is no other real captaincy contender even with an unfit Broad the media is less likely to lay into Morgan - unless he gets the captaincy back off of Cook: then it's open season...

On the other hand Morgan is obviously a master tactician looking at Middlesex's one day record this season.

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2014, 01:04:39 PM »
England have made Captain Cook unavailable for Essex last two Championship matches of the  season.

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« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2014, 03:30:57 PM »
Unbelievable decision which I presume Cook supported if not instigated. For somebody whose form has deserted him for 18 months at least, one would have thought that some game time would have been exactly what he needed. Presumably now he won't pick up a bat in anger until he reaches Sri Lanka. Ridiculous ! Again the integrity of our domestic cricket is completely undermined as all the other England players  have been allowed to play the season. Surely either no ECB players play or they all do.

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« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2014, 03:45:40 PM »
Unbelievable decision which I presume Cook supported if not instigated. For somebody whose form has deserted him for 18 months at least, one would have thought that some game time would have been exactly what he needed.

Maybe he didn't want his batting deterioration exposed to diluted 2nd. div. bowling attacks, thereby ensuring his continued stay in the England side until at least the end of the 2015 Ashes series when his career will undoubtably end, particularly with the deployment of the Review System.

Despite his freak couple of successful innings for ECCC at the beginning of the season, I don't think the club will noticeably miss his services. I personally would rather see Browne in the opening spot against Kent than Alastair Cook. As far as ECCC is concerned, Cook has been the epitomy of a nonentity for them.
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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2014, 03:48:38 PM »
Morgan, on the other hand, has been overshadowed by all this (which has helped him) and as there is no other real captaincy contender even with an unfit Broad the media is less likely to lay into Morgan - unless he gets the captaincy back off of Cook: then it's open season...

On the other hand Morgan is obviously a master tactician looking at Middlesex's one day record this season.

Don't disagree with your sentiments - I'm explaining not justifying the media's position...

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2014, 05:43:55 PM »
England have made Captain Cook unavailable for Essex last two Championship matches of the  season.

Cook was "rested" for the end of the county season last year, too, to enable him to prepare himself properly for the Ashes tour. That worked out well.

Meanwhile Morgan turns out to be a brilliant T20 batsman and captain after all.

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #81 on: September 07, 2014, 06:36:56 PM »
  He played 3 Championship games this season and scored hundreds in 2 of them, one of which was a match winning one.  Basically you get a world class player for a handful of games for free.  Why wouldnt you want him?

I get your drift, Jason, that's with the proviso of course that he doesn't receive any stipend from ECCC, although he's certainly held his hands out to the members with his 2014 benefit donation fund.

You're probably correct in your assumption that he will captain the 2015 World Cup squad, who incidentally have less chance of winning than the 2014 England World Cup football squad. He probably threatened to storm off with his public schoolboy petulance whilst taking the bat, ball and stumps with him if deprived of the captaincy.

I have little time for public school types but you are off the mark on this one ... as usual.

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2014, 08:11:18 PM »
I guess with nothing to play for it doesn, t make any real difference but I do think supporters of county cricket should get the chance to see the England squad when the international season has ended.

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2014, 10:14:56 PM »
Unbelievable decision which I presume Cook supported if not instigated. For somebody whose form has deserted him for 18 months at least, one would have thought that some game time would have been exactly what he needed.
Maybe he didn't want his batting deterioration exposed to diluted 2nd. div. bowling attacks, thereby ensuring his continued stay in the England side until at least the end of the 2015 Ashes series when his career will undoubtably end, particularly with the deployment of the Review System.

Despite his freak couple of successful innings for ECCC at the beginning of the season, I don't think the club will noticeably miss his services. I personally would rather see Browne in the opening spot against Kent than Alastair Cook. As far as ECCC is concerned, Cook has been the epitomy of a nonentity for them.

A cheap shot, to suggest Cook is scared of 2nd division bowlers. He showed what he can do at this level at the start of the season. Why do consider them to be "freaks"?  Can't you accept them at face value?

I agree that he benefited from some umpiring decisions but he also suffered from some bad ones...these are part of cricket.

You just have to accept that we will never see much of Cook, although on this occasion I find the decision to rest him nothing short of capricious. As Jason has pointed out, his contract is with the ECB. We may not like it but it is probably the best arrangement for English cricket (whose team are far more likely to win an international competition than their footballing equivalents, where the clubs control everything)

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #84 on: September 07, 2014, 10:32:21 PM »
I guess with nothing to play for it doesn, t make any real difference

Nothing to play for?

2 more wins & we're up.

Larry said so.
 

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« Reply #85 on: September 08, 2014, 09:54:53 AM »
Bit of a let down really I'm sure if he had wanted to he would have been allowed to play.

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #86 on: September 08, 2014, 11:18:18 AM »

Meanwhile Morgan turns out to be a brilliant T20 batsman and captain after all.

Based on one game?

I don't get the fuss really about naming a captain in advance for T20.
It is a game based on slogging for 20 overs and has little to do with tactics. Just pick the best 11 and name a captain from there.

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« Reply #87 on: September 08, 2014, 11:36:55 AM »
It is a game based on slogging for 20 overs and has little to do with tactics.

If no tactics are required Essex should be winning it every year ;)

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #88 on: September 08, 2014, 12:56:24 PM »
Why do consider them to be "freaks"?  Can't you accept them at face value?




'Freak' was probably inappropriate phraseology, uncharacteristic might be a better word if taken in context with his contributions for ECCC over the past couple of seasons and beyond.

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Re: Captain Cook
« Reply #89 on: September 08, 2014, 01:02:09 PM »

Meanwhile Morgan turns out to be a brilliant T20 batsman and captain after all.

Based on one game?...

I suppose I should've added the old "irony" emoticon. Sometimes one thinks it's so obvious that it shouldn't be necessary, but...