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IanS

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Ground Development
« on: June 21, 2014, 03:25:38 PM »
I wonder when thje Club will start to consult with its members over the Ground Development? The last update on the website is undated but says:

"...development will commence on site in the next few weeks."

so I guess it was some months ago. It goes on to say

"Now that the first Phase can start the Club will now focus on its facilities which will form part of the next stage. Work will now start on reviewing the original plans to ensure that they meet our requirements in that we build the facilities that will serve the needs of the modern game, our members, sponsors and supporters."

Most keen cricket followers like to watch from position close to or behind the bowlers arm. From the fuzzy sketches on the website, the number of seats in the Tom Pearce stand and River Stand will be reduced to a small fraction of their current capacity and replaced by seats in or around the pavilion.

Overall, we are giving away a fair bit of freehold land and prime viewing seats in exchange for a new pavilion and executive suite. Not much in it for the members.

If anyone from the Club is reading this, I'd welcome some feedback.


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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2014, 03:31:22 PM »
From what I can see the new pavilion is all about improving facilities for the deadbeats on the coaching and playing staff.

The shack at Barren Park is too good for them if you ask me.

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2014, 07:12:39 PM »
I am not too worried about the lack of seats as the number of occupants is getting less and less each season.

I did hear a conversation at the last CC match, claiming that all the developers have to do for the people who have bought the flats off plan. Is put down a strip of concrete, leave it at that and say, we have started building your flat, no refunds.

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2014, 07:02:04 PM »
I wonder when thje Club will start to consult with its members over the Ground Development? The last update on the website is undated but says:

"...development will commence on site in the next few weeks."

so I guess it was some months ago. It goes on to say

"Now that the first Phase can start the Club will now focus on its facilities which will form part of the next stage. Work will now start on reviewing the original plans to ensure that they meet our requirements in that we build the facilities that will serve the needs of the modern game, our members, sponsors and supporters."

Most keen cricket followers like to watch from position close to or behind the bowlers arm. From the fuzzy sketches on the website, the number of seats in the Tom Pearce stand and River Stand will be reduced to a small fraction of their current capacity and replaced by seats in or around the pavilion.

Overall, we are giving away a fair bit of freehold land and prime viewing seats in exchange for a new pavilion and executive suite. Not much in it for the members.

If anyone from the Club is reading this, I'd welcome some feedback.

It's incredible isn't it, Ian?
Sadly and all too predictably, when the Club have something to hide or the hype cannot be made to fit their agenda it all goes quiet. In my professional experience I have yet to see a development on this or any other scale, that is so reticent to display any relevant information or images. If Better managed, consultative and inclusive this should have been a showcase for the Club, and one where they could 'exploit' the situation to get their membership and support on their side. Unfortunately, the continued silence, indeed closely guarded state secret like status to this project is embarrassing. The closely censored images that have been allowed to seep out into the wider public domain, pay far more attention to the utilitarian, artless and environmentally unfriendly apartment blocks than they do to the actual spectator accommodation. I wonder why?
Additionally, I fail to see why any mere member will be consulted this time around than was patently not the case in 2007/8. The Club are run by the same uninspiring, second-rate, old boys & associates - who rather than consult, only display defensive belligerence whenever they're questioned.
Reading between the lines, the original scale model - depicted a single tier seating deck at the River End, re-sited to sit closer to the outfield than currently, thus creating more space for the apartment block wall that will be a feature(less) accompaniment to Division Two batting collapses of the future.
If and when this ever becomes public, perhaps the Club should start thinking about aspects such as how the acoustics, shadowing (from the blocks) and parking management, along with rather more serious aspects such as flood risk and massing.

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2014, 07:25:33 PM »
Flooding might not be so bad.

Grayson & his cronies could get washed away.

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 06:01:42 AM »
Morning

To confirm there will be consultation with Members and other interested parties

We will be sharing plans, gathering feedback etc. As soon as a set schedule is known for this we will advise. Building work for phase a is progressing well. This ground development gives us the opportunity to create facilities for all to enjoy and to generate additional income to invest back into the playing side

Thanks Danny

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 09:33:22 AM »
Danny, much as I appreciate you are toeing the party line here mate, you can't continue to give soundbites like the above without actually showing everyone what is happening.  By continuing to keep information in-house, the club is allowing the formation of numerous conspiracy theories.

If the development has been a great big cock up, surely you'd be better off telling the members and getting it in the open than allowing the problem to fester.
If there are going to be real success stories, then lets see the good news.

Best regards as always

Andy

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2014, 11:06:05 AM »


If the development has been a great big cock up

If?

Even Kent have managed to redevelop part of their ground & they nearly bankrupted themselves hosting a Sugababes concert.

Mind you 10 years to achieve diddly squat sounds about right for this club.

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2014, 11:26:59 AM »
Morning

To confirm there will be consultation with Members and other interested parties

We will be sharing plans, gathering feedback etc. As soon as a set schedule is known for this we will advise. Building work for phase a is progressing well. This ground development gives us the opportunity to create facilities for all to enjoy and to generate additional income to invest back into the playing side

Thanks Danny

Danny, thank you for your response. I am concerned that (currently) there is no schedule to consult with members. Without a plan, nothing will happen. This member is left with the feeling that consultation will be put off until all the club/MCD are committed to a particular design and our input will only influence the colour of the walls in the gents' toilets.

No doubt the development will be "iconic" but will it enhance members' cricketing viewing experience if we lose many of the seats from the River End?

I'm afraid that we, mere members, are in the dark.

Ian


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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2014, 01:09:38 PM »
If the development has been a great big cock up

Even Kent have managed to redevelop part of their ground & they nearly bankrupted themselves hosting a Sugababes concert.

Mmmm, the Sugarbabes.  :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2014, 03:40:34 PM »
Sorry, Danny, I’m with Blocky, IanS & Mog. Surely, given that people are working on site someone MUST have an idea of what is going to happen when. Sadly, from what you post, it doesn’t sound as though they do.

Mog obviously has considerable experience of this sort of development and, given the paucity of information coming from either the developers ...... are they still the same people ....... or the club I have to say that I consider his concerns to be sensible.

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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2014, 03:56:26 PM »
I agree.

All we've had has been literature trying to sell us the apartments off plan and that is some time ago now. Plans must be fairly well advanced if building has begun - oh no, wait no,     this is Essex we're talking about.    ::)


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Re: Ground Development
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2014, 05:24:09 PM »
Reviewed the ground development model last year,  a raised concerns regards TP stand,  only to be told it had no real  relevance on the future plan has it could all but change.
Wondered why I bothered to be honest .

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Re: Ground Development
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