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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2026, 09:56:29 AM »
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Apparently Tom Haines has Essex or Hampshire to choose from at present and has had talks with both,with Elgars contract up, seems like a potential good move for us.

Very average player. We can do better.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2026, 10:12:59 AM »
Poor performance and why Snater or Akhter did not come in at 6 is beyond me, instead we had 4 overs and 19 runs and Noah looking like a fish out of water.

Sussex supporters around us seem to think that all of the players out of contract at the end of 2026 will be released as the receivers have stated that the debt is greater than was first declared.

Apparently Tom Haines has Essex or Hampshire to choose from at present and has had talks with both,with Elgars contract up, seems like a potential good move for us.

I think he's be a decent signing if we could get him.  Hampshire look a lot more likely to be in Division 2 next year than we do and the last opener they signed from Sussex, Ali Orr, has not had a great time of it there.  He looked a good player at Sussex and yet Hampshire rarely pick him.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2026, 10:23:55 AM »
Poor performance and why Snater or Akhter did not come in at 6 is beyond me, instead we had 4 overs and 19 runs and Noah looking like a fish out of water.

Sussex supporters around us seem to think that all of the players out of contract at the end of 2026 will be released as the receivers have stated that the debt is greater than was first declared.

Apparently Tom Haines has Essex or Hampshire to choose from at present and has had talks with both,with Elgars contract up, seems like a potential good move for us.

I think he's be a decent signing if we could get him.  Hampshire look a lot more likely to be in Division 2 next year than we do and the last opener they signed from Sussex, Ali Orr, has not had a great time of it there.  He looked a good player at Sussex and yet Hampshire rarely pick him.
Now you're talking. Orr is a much better bet.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2026, 11:34:42 AM »
We may be thinking, when we play Middlesex. Is this the same Rossington?

He's obviously hungry.

For runs.

We'll see if he saves his best performances for Lord's- which obviously has the better catering.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2026, 11:39:28 AM »
Apparently Tom Haines has Essex or Hampshire to choose from at present and has had talks with both,with Elgars contract up, seems like a potential good move for us.

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I think he's be a decent signing if we could get him.  Hampshire look a lot more likely to be in Division 2 next year than we do and the last opener they signed from Sussex, Ali Orr, has not had a great time of it there.  He looked a good player at Sussex and yet Hampshire rarely pick him.

I think Haines would choose even a 2nd Division Hampshire over Essex given the respective resources, but it would be good if the club managed to get him. It's strange that Ali Orr is languishing in the Hampshire seconds and hasn't played a First Class or T20 game since last year. But then Hampshire have made some very odd selections this season. Either would be excellent signings, but I worry about the club's ability to attract new players and I hope I'm proved wrong on that score.
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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2026, 03:15:14 PM »
There's an article in the Cricketer, behind a paywall so I can't link it but this gives a flavour of how bad we were last year.

Essex's men lost eight straight games in the 2025 Blast season, and by my maths, they were lucky that is all it was. Their bowling was a bullet for opposition batters; they went at 10 runs an over.

Those are IPL numbers, and that is a competition with an extra batter thanks to the Impact Player rule.

Yet, in their last five games, they won three (their only wins). So if the tournament was longer, like 82 or 162 matches, maybe they were about to go on a run.

Essex were the worst bowling team. Not just bad, but completely horrible. Like they were forced to play the entire year without a seam on the ball, or the umpires were secretly dipping it in Tabasco before each delivery.

They took 77 wickets for the year, six fewer than Derbyshire, who had the second lowest. And Surrey took 109, which is slightly inflated because of the extra game (their quarter-final defeat to Northamptonshire). But these two teams were playing a different sport, and Essex weren't good at theirs.


It doesn't look on paper like Essex should be a bad bowling attack, for they had Mohammad Amir and Simon Harmer, two heavyweights. Young Luc Benkenstein did well with his leggies, and Shane Snater's inswingers are annoying.

Every other bowler for Essex went at more than 10 an over to balance these guys out. Those players include Sam Cook, Matt Critchley and Paul Walter. These are not bad bowlers.


To get a more holistic look at the teams, we take the batting average and subtract the bowling record to give us a differential. Plus is good, minus is bad. We then do the same on runs per over.

To be fair to Gloucestershire, their bowlers did actually pull back some of the damage with the ball. But on this metric, Essex were by far the worst team in the Blast last year.



And we've lost Amir from last year and Cook, who's not that good at T20 but better than the others we have.  So we're likely to do even worse this year!

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2026, 04:46:52 AM »
Go for it Essex. Try to beat the eight in a row record.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2026, 10:06:24 AM »
Ali Orr's a good player, but hasn't been the same since a short ball broke his arm a while back. I'd be very cautious about signing him, I bet there's some psychological demons there which probably won't ever go away unfortunately.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2026, 10:22:12 AM »
Going on Liam Dawson's comments about the facilities, when on loan. A player will choose, a division 2 bottom dwelling Hampshire over Essex.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2026, 02:18:59 PM »
Going on Liam Dawson's comments about the facilities, when on loan. A player will choose, a division 2 bottom dwelling Hampshire over Essex.
Unless said player fancied winning the Championship. But I suspect not so many are bothered about thst these days. I don't attend T20 games and don't pretend to know much about it. However, I do recognise its financial importance to the club. For that reason they do need to win a few more home games.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2026, 02:56:44 PM »
Going on Liam Dawson's comments about the facilities, when on loan. A player will choose, a division 2 bottom dwelling Hampshire over Essex.
Unless said player fancied winning the Championship. But I suspect not so many are bothered about thst these days. I don't attend T20 games and don't pretend to know much about it. However, I do recognise its financial importance to the club. For that reason they do need to win a few more home games.

They'd be a good chance he'd choose Hampshire.  As has been said better facilities and closer to home.  It also seems to be a path that is quite common both Orr and Brown have left to go there.
However, Haines was picked for the England Lions last winter and will be 28 next season.  If he has serious ambitions about playing for England then you'd think he'd need a good couple of seasons preferably in Division 1.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2026, 03:27:38 PM »
Going on Liam Dawson's comments about the facilities, when on loan. A player will choose, a division 2 bottom dwelling Hampshire over Essex.
Unless said player fancied winning the Championship. But I suspect not so many are bothered about thst these days. I don't attend T20 games and don't pretend to know much about it. However, I do recognise its financial importance to the club. For that reason they do need to win a few more home games.

They'd be a good chance he'd choose Hampshire.  As has been said better facilities and closer to home.  It also seems to be a path that is quite common both Orr and Brown have left to go there.
However, Haines was picked for the England Lions last winter and will be 28 next season.  If he has serious ambitions about playing for England then you'd think he'd need a good couple of seasons preferably in Division 1.
Why would he come to us when Westley has stated that they are producing ?result? wickets?!

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2026, 03:41:19 PM »
Going on Liam Dawson's comments about the facilities, when on loan. A player will choose, a division 2 bottom dwelling Hampshire over Essex.
Unless said player fancied winning the Championship. But I suspect not so many are bothered about thst these days. I don't attend T20 games and don't pretend to know much about it. However, I do recognise its financial importance to the club. For that reason they do need to win a few more home games.

They'd be a good chance he'd choose Hampshire.  As has been said better facilities and closer to home.  It also seems to be a path that is quite common both Orr and Brown have left to go there.
However, Haines was picked for the England Lions last winter and will be 28 next season.  If he has serious ambitions about playing for England then you'd think he'd need a good couple of seasons preferably in Division 1.
Why would he come to us when Westley has stated that they are producing ?result? wickets?!

Maybe he wouldn't.  Unless we get relegated, and we're alot more likely to be in Div 1 next year than Hampshire then it's still runs in the top division.  It's not as if the Hampshire openers ever get many runs either, they go through enough of them! 
You'd think he'd have a few options if he did decide to leave so it's unlikely to be Essex, he'd go to.

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Re: Sussex H - 2026
« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2026, 05:10:27 PM »
To be fair, we've been a good destination for domestic players looking to kick on as cricketers. Whilst he's never made an England squad, Critchley has kicked on as a player here, whilst Jordan Cox has notably given his international chances more of a boost since being with us and it's pure bad luck that he doesn't have a Test cap yet. I do think players like coming here knowing that with Porter, Cook and Harmer, you're never likely to spend too much time in the dirt. Plus whilst the facilities may be garbage, it's a nice area to live and close to London.

Having said that, if I were a Sussex player I'd choose Hampshire and eat a year of division two for obvious reasons, facilities, cash, location.