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Offline dazedpenguin

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Re: The future?
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2025, 09:01:20 AM »
An article in the Guardian explains what's being voted on and states that Essex are against any reduction in 14 Championship fixtures:

"With 12 votes required to alter the structure, Surrey, Lancashire, Middlesex, Essex and Somerset have already stated they will oppose any reduction to the current 14-game season, with the voting intentions of Derbyshire, Sussex and Kent in the balance. The 10 other counties ? an unlikely alliance of Test match grounds and Division Two sides such as Leicestershire and Northamptonshire ? are broadly in favour but need two other clubs to come on side."

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/aug/30/county-crickets-restructure-what-is-being-proposed-and-how-will-it-work

Coming up with a complicated new structure just to reduce the number of games to 13 and then offering an extra one day cup game all seems a bit pointless. Of course, as others have pointed out, this would give them a structure to eventually reduce the games further.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2025, 09:12:45 AM »
An article in the Guardian explains what's being voted on and states that Essex are against any reduction in 14 Championship fixtures:

"With 12 votes required to alter the structure, Surrey, Lancashire, Middlesex, Essex and Somerset have already stated they will oppose any reduction to the current 14-game season, with the voting intentions of Derbyshire, Sussex and Kent in the balance. The 10 other counties ? an unlikely alliance of Test match grounds and Division Two sides such as Leicestershire and Northamptonshire ? are broadly in favour but need two other clubs to come on side."

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/aug/30/county-crickets-restructure-what-is-being-proposed-and-how-will-it-work

Coming up with a complicated new structure just to reduce the number of games to 13 and then offering an extra one day cup game all seems a bit pointless. Of course, as others have pointed out, this would give them a structure to eventually reduce the games further.
Exactly. 10 CC games is the ultimate objective of the ECB.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2025, 09:17:31 AM »
The Grauniad article is inaccurate (quelle surprise). The Lanky Board are in favour of a reduction but their members have called an SGM to reverse that view.

Notts members have also called an SGM to reverse their Board's preference for a reduction.

IIRC Kent were in favour of the status quo.

So, a rubbish article from a rubbish rag.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2025, 10:39:57 AM »
I wonder if there is any scope for a motion of no confidence in the ECB to be brought forward at the Essex meeting? Personally the words of Cromwell spring to my mind - In the name of God go.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2025, 11:01:43 AM »
A motion would be ignored by the ECB would be ignored. For the reason, that they are convinced in their own mind. That they are doing a good job.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2025, 11:21:18 AM »
I suspect the chair wouldn't allow such a motion to be debated. But I think members need to find away to snap back at the ECB. This horse trading, reduce to 13 games in retain for an extra list A game really exposes their incompetence.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2025, 01:33:21 PM »
I wonder if there is any scope for a motion of no confidence in the ECB to be brought forward at the Essex meeting? Personally the words of Cromwell spring to my mind - In the name of God go.


Great analogy Slogger, unfortunately Cromwell had the means to enforce his views whereas we don't!

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Re: The future?
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2025, 04:27:37 PM »
The Grauniad article is inaccurate (quelle surprise). The Lanky Board are in favour of a reduction but their members have called an SGM to reverse that view.

Notts members have also called an SGM to reverse their Board's preference for a reduction.

IIRC Kent were in favour of the status quo.

So, a rubbish article from a rubbish rag.

And Yawkshur are also against a reduction.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2025, 08:23:02 PM »
I would call for a boycott of the 100. However, as no County member, with any taste or intelligence, would go anywhere near it. This would make no impression at all.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2025, 04:47:46 PM »
So according to the Dobell-meister (so treat with caution) County chiefs are suggesting the players union call a strike to force a reduction in playing days.

If true then the concerned county big-wigs should be sacked.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2025, 04:58:19 PM »
It sort of smacks of 1970s deals between the government, CBI and TUC. It all gets stitched up in a smoke filled room and then the rank and file are required to fall into line. The trouble is most of the counties are owned by an admittedly dwindling band of memembers who don't agree with a championship reduction. In fact my comment on the survey was why is there no option to revert to 16 matches? I don't know if that makes me a luddite or a flying picket.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2025, 08:46:05 PM »
So according to the Dobell-meister (so treat with caution) County chiefs are suggesting the players union call a strike to force a reduction in playing days.

If true then the concerned county big-wigs should be sacked.
Excellent news. Might finally gain some national media attention as to the damage being caused to the county game.

Members should stand their ground, don't get bullied into submission. Those county chiefs won't have the guts to go public but we can all guess who they are.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2025, 03:00:33 PM »
The Beeb

Any revamp of the County Championship may not take place until 2027 ? if changes are implemented at all.
The 18 first-class counties have been examining the domestic structure throughout this season, with the intention of introducing alterations in 2026.
While a reduction to the T20 Blast was agreed in August, consensus on the future of the Championship has been harder to find.
Various proposals to cut from the current 14 matches to a 12-game programme were supported by the Professional Cricketers' Association (PCA), but opposed by a number of counties.
As such, a 12-game schedule is off the table.
Now the choice is between 14 matches and 13 matches, options that were discussed by the county chairs on Tuesday.
The prospect of delaying any potential changes until 2027 has also been raised.
That is down to the desire to ensure the best possible decision is made, and also because the end of the current season is drawing near. The final three rounds of matches commence next week.
A 13-game season would involve splitting the 18 counties into a 12-team top tier, with six in the bottom division.
The 12 teams in Division One would be divided into two groups, with each team playing the others in their group twice. The groups would then be split into top and bottom halves, leaving each team to play the three counties in the corresponding half from the other group. The champions would be the county that ends on most points.
In the six-team second tier, counties would play two teams twice and three others three times, giving a total of 13 games. The top two teams would be promoted, replacing the two teams that finish bottom of the groups in the top tier.
Supporters of the change point to the one-match reduction, which is favoured by players. A 12-team top flight gives more counties the opportunity to win the Championship, while a six-team second tier gives more chance for promotion to those counties that often find themselves languishing.
However, there is also a feeling that the proposals are too convoluted and a 12-team top tier does not provide enough 'best v best'.
Any change to the structure would require 12 of the 18 counties to vote in favour.
That is looking increasingly unlikely, given the number of counties that have publicly stated their preference for retaining a 14-game season.
That would mean a continuation of the current system: 10 teams in the first division, eight in the second and all teams playing 14 matches.
Discussions between county chairs are due to continue and a vote could take place in the coming days.
The PCA is due to update its members on the situation later on Wednesday. In July, the players' body said a cut to 12 matches was the "only reasonable option".
With that now not being considered, the PCA is in favour of the reduction to 13 matches.
Retaining the current 14-game model would result in frustration among players. While the idea of strikes or boycotts are not likely to be considered, players could look at other ways of protesting against the schedule.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2025, 03:35:18 PM »
The upshot is?
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We may win this battle but the war is not over.

Prepare for the next battle because the ECB/PCA will be back.

Take this opportunity to strengthen the democratic mechanisms at county member clubs.

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Re: The future?
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2025, 04:33:18 PM »
Essex have just circulated an ECB questionnaire.