Middlesex (H) 2025

[Andy]

I thought the idea was Ravi had an agent who could negotiate a more flexible deal with Sussex whilst getting a nice cut of the new contract?  The problem was we never replaced him at the time. Critchley flatters to deceive whilst Cox was inevitably going to be called up.

Spoons will find his second term in office much harder as we look more like the team he inherited from Larry.

[nat]

I thought the idea was Ravi had an agent who could negotiate a more flexible deal with Sussex whilst getting a nice cut of the new contract?  The problem was we never replaced him at the time. Critchley flatters to deceive whilst Cox was inevitably going to be called up.

Spoons will find his second term in office much harder as we look more like the team he inherited from Larry.

All things are cyclical and this team is no different. We've out performed for the past 7-8 years and it couldn't continue indefinitely. If we can get a top bowler for the second half of the season then we should stay in division one of the CC.

[nat]

Good o see that SH has spoken about recent performances. Makes a change from the cliches of CS.

I'm beginning to wonder if CS is a good coach or a lucky one. Perhaps RTD was the major catalyst for recent successes.

[JasonP]

Good o see that SH has spoken about recent performances. Makes a change from the cliches of CS.

I'm beginning to wonder if CS is a good coach or a lucky one. Perhaps RTD was the major catalyst for recent successes.

I was thinking the same.  It's been over 6 months since he was appointed and we still haven't got a bowling coach to replace Mick Lewis to assist him.

[Perov]

Does the cost of running the women's side come from club finances or is it fully subsidised  by the ECB? I have no knowledge  of how it works as I do not follow women's cricket, but it must be quite costly to run the side, staff costs,  travel, overnight stays, etc. Income from spectators  must be negligible  and so it's  running at a los presumably. .
I hope that doesn't  affect the mens team finances.

[kingstonj1]

Good o see that SH has spoken about recent performances. Makes a change from the cliches of CS.

I'm beginning to wonder if CS is a good coach or a lucky one. Perhaps RTD was the major catalyst for recent successes.

The 1 min interview post game or somewhere else? If the former then is just as bad as silvers albeit in a different accent

[JasonP]

Does the cost of running the women's side come from club finances or is it fully subsidised  by the ECB? I have no knowledge  of how it works as I do not follow women's cricket, but it must be quite costly to run the side, staff costs,  travel, overnight stays, etc. Income from spectators  must be negligible  and so it's  running at a los presumably. .
I hope that doesn't  affect the mens team finances.

On the forum it was said that mens team didn't subsidise the womens and that it pretty much broke even.

The bizarre thing to me and they mentioned this in the forum is that the highest view count on the live stream this year was from the Essex women v Surrey women live stream, 182 thousand views.  The two home womens T20 matches have had 114 thousand and 108 thousand views.
The two Essex mens T20s have had 85 thousand and 60 thousand views and the CC generally a lot less.  Obviously you get a lot more in the ground for the men which means they wont be watching on the stream but why the numbers are so big compared to the people in the ground for the women I'm not sure?

[kingstonj1]

Does the cost of running the women's side come from club finances or is it fully subsidised  by the ECB? I have no knowledge  of how it works as I do not follow women's cricket, but it must be quite costly to run the side, staff costs,  travel, overnight stays, etc. Income from spectators  must be negligible  and so it's  running at a los presumably. .
I hope that doesn't  affect the mens team finances.

On the forum it was said that mens team didn't subsidise the womens and that it pretty much broke even.

The bizarre thing to me and they mentioned this in the forum is that the highest view count on the live stream this year was from the Essex women v Surrey women live stream, 182 thousand views.  The two home womens T20 matches have had 114 thousand and 108 thousand views.
The two Essex mens T20s have had 85 thousand and 60 thousand views and the CC generally a lot less.  Obviously you get a lot more in the ground for the men which means they wont be watching on the stream but why the numbers are so big compared to the people in the ground for the women I'm not sure?

Methinks it's BS

[JasonP]

Does the cost of running the women's side come from club finances or is it fully subsidised  by the ECB? I have no knowledge  of how it works as I do not follow women's cricket, but it must be quite costly to run the side, staff costs,  travel, overnight stays, etc. Income from spectators  must be negligible  and so it's  running at a los presumably. .
I hope that doesn't  affect the mens team finances.

On the forum it was said that mens team didn't subsidise the womens and that it pretty much broke even.

The bizarre thing to me and they mentioned this in the forum is that the highest view count on the live stream this year was from the Essex women v Surrey women live stream, 182 thousand views.  The two home womens T20 matches have had 114 thousand and 108 thousand views.
The two Essex mens T20s have had 85 thousand and 60 thousand views and the CC generally a lot less.  Obviously you get a lot more in the ground for the men which means they wont be watching on the stream but why the numbers are so big compared to the people in the ground for the women I'm not sure?

Methinks it's BS

Why would youtube show BS figures?  You can go on any county page on youtube and go to the Live section and it shows the number of views each video has.  On the Somerset page, one of their womens game has 227k views, which is significantly the most of any live match this year.  On Surreys the biggest is a mens match but the 2nd and 3rd biggest are womens matches.  Obviously a 50 over womens match lasts 7 hours and will likely get more views than a 3hr T20 match but even so.

[kingstonj1]

Genuine views or bots. Given the ECB drive I certainly wouldn't put it past them to invest in simple tech that completely games clicks/views.

It makes no logical sense on any popularity parameter given the evidence on the ground (no pun intended)

[nat]

End of season sale...tickets for Thursday's game are now ?20.

[vim]

How many clicks are people in India, checking up regularly, to see if their shirt has gone missing?

[NotAMember]

On the Somerset page, one of their womens game has 227k views, which is significantly the most of any live match this year.  On Surreys the biggest is a mens match but the 2nd and 3rd biggest are womens matches.  Obviously a 50 over womens match lasts 7 hours and will likely get more views than a 3hr T20 match but even so.

Could it be that the men's games are geo-blocked in certain countries? I am primarily thinking of India, with its FanCode platform - have the men's live streams been sold exclusively to FanCode there?

Or could it be if the women's game is in the afternoon, which is evening in India, thus getting more views than the men's game which is one in the middle of the night in India?

If the matches are available on YouTube in India, I don't think one should underestimate the viewing figures. It is a cricket-mad country with a population of 1.4 billion. If 0.005 percent of their population drop into an English game, that is 70,000 views. Bear in mind that 0.005 percent is just 5 people per million watching.

[SirChef26]

Indeed, not to mention it's been quite enjoyable watching the women's T20 this year. Far more entertaining than the men, whom I haven't watched since Somerset.

A lot of boomers haven't yet cottoned onto the popularity of some of these women's players. That Somerset player for example (Wellington) has a big fanbase in India. Far more cricket fans across the world will know who she is compared to any random men's county player from Essex or anywhere else. Just wait until Ellyse Perry comes over for Hampshire.

[SirChef26]

Over 10k currently watching the Bears Essex women live stream at Edgbaston.