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Offline Andy

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2014, 03:23:21 PM »
Totally agree about swampy, deserves his own benefit given what he got lumbered with by the usual poor leadership and planning shown by the ECCC management. Don't forget they never gave topley a benefit but Darren Robinson did. Go figure.

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2014, 03:53:41 PM »
I think it is a well established practice that benefits are awarded approximately 10 years after being capped. Cook (and Bopara were capped on 2005). Pettini (also Phillips & ten Doescate) were capped in 2006 so I can see a bit of a backlog building up. But setting aside the legalism, I would agree that Pettini ought to be at the front of the queue.

One positive thing is that players have stayed at the club for so long, compare this to football

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2014, 04:41:43 PM »
Totally agree about swampy, deserves his own benefit given what he got lumbered with by the usual poor leadership and planning shown by the ECCC management. Don't forget they never gave topley a benefit but Darren Robinson did. Go figure.

It is against my nature to be a pedant, but Robbo never received a benefit from ECCC, Andy.
Ironically, he was released a year after his golden season where scored over a thousand CC runs, as well as captaining the side in several games as they won promotion in 2002*. As we all know prior to that he had miraculously managed to regularly gain a new contracts after years of ongoing, sub-standard performances. (Compare and contrast with the contemporary openers at the Club!)

Nasser's autobiography gives an insight into the circumstances surrounding his departure, which you can reprise yourself with.
Rumour had it that Irani was jealous that DR had a better car than him.  ::)

Worryingly only two players have accumulated 1,000 Championship runs since then; Jeffo in 2004 and Cook in 2005. So, they're approaching the tenth anniversary.

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2014, 06:29:31 PM »
Totally agree about swampy, deserves his own benefit given what he got lumbered with by the usual poor leadership and planning shown by the ECCC management. Don't forget they never gave topley a benefit but Darren Robinson did. Go figure.

It is against my nature to be a pedant, but Robbo never received a benefit from ECCC, Andy.
Ironically, he was released a year after his golden season where scored over a thousand CC runs, as well as captaining the side in several games as they won promotion in 2002*. As we all know prior to that he had miraculously managed to regularly gain a new contracts after years of ongoing, sub-standard performances. (Compare and contrast with the contemporary openers at the Club!)

Nasser's autobiography gives an insight into the circumstances surrounding his departure, which you can reprise yourself with.
Rumour had it that Irani was jealous that DR had a better car than him.  ::)

Worryingly only two players have accumulated 1,000 Championship runs since then; Jeffo in 2004 and Cook in 2005. So, they're approaching the tenth anniversary.

Sorry Mog, although I symathise with your general views the stats aren't quite right: in 2006 Andy Flower, Irani and (yes!) Pettini all topped 1,000, followed by Bopara in 2008. Since then only we have only had three totals over 900-Foster twice (905 in 2009 and 931 in 2011) and Walker (933 in 2009).  But hey, as we've been told for the last 20 years or more, we are in transition! 

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2014, 09:41:20 PM »
It is against my nature to be a pedant, but Robbo never received a benefit from ECCC, Andy.
Ironically, he was released a year after his golden season where scored over a thousand CC runs, as well as captaining the side in several games as they won promotion in 2002*. As we all know prior to that he had miraculously managed to regularly gain a new contracts after years of ongoing, sub-standard performances. (Compare and contrast with the contemporary openers at the Club!)

Nasser's autobiography gives an insight into the circumstances surrounding his departure, which you can reprise yourself with.
Rumour had it that Irani was jealous that DR had a better car than him.  ::)

No Nat, Pieshop definitely got a shared of a benefit, I put some French Centimes in the bucket.

Nasser never said anything about Iranis Nissan Micra envy in his autobiography. However he did mention the usual Mancunian habit of shooting his mouth off about Robbo's great performances before letting someone else tell the latter that he wasn't getting a new contract.

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2014, 10:10:20 AM »
Totally agree about swampy, deserves his own benefit given what he got lumbered with by the usual poor leadership and planning shown by the ECCC management. Don't forget they never gave topley a benefit but Darren Robinson did. Go figure.

It is against my nature to be a pedant, but Robbo never received a benefit from ECCC, Andy.
Ironically, he was released a year after his golden season where scored over a thousand CC runs, as well as captaining the side in several games as they won promotion in 2002*. As we all know prior to that he had miraculously managed to regularly gain a new contracts after years of ongoing, sub-standard performances. (Compare and contrast with the contemporary openers at the Club!)

Nasser's autobiography gives an insight into the circumstances surrounding his departure, which you can reprise yourself with.
Rumour had it that Irani was jealous that DR had a better car than him.  ::)

Worryingly only two players have accumulated 1,000 Championship runs since then; Jeffo in 2004 and Cook in 2005. So, they're approaching the tenth anniversary.

Sorry Mog, although I symathise with your general views the stats aren't quite right: in 2006 Andy Flower, Irani and (yes!) Pettini all topped 1,000, followed by Bopara in 2008. Since then only we have only had three totals over 900-Foster twice (905 in 2009 and 931 in 2011) and Walker (933 in 2009).  But hey, as we've been told for the last 20 years or more, we are in transition!

Postman, I must apologise for my fundamental error; I intended to write; "Worringly only two openers have accumulated 1,000 Championship runs since then......"

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2014, 12:56:29 PM »


Postman, I must apologise for my fundamental error; I intended to write; "Worringly only two openers have accumulated 1,000 Championship runs since then......"

However, all is not as bleak as first appears, Mog, because there has been the occasional interspaced season when the combined weight of opener's runs have crept past the 1000 mark. Heaven forbid you should ever be accused of adopting a pessimistic approach to the club's achievements over the past decade. ;)

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2014, 02:28:12 PM »
Did anybody go?  What happened?

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2014, 03:07:24 PM »
Did anybody go?  What happened?

It is rumoured that Cook attended, or at least his bucket carrying representatives.

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Re: Cookys T20 Big Bash - Thurs 5th June
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2014, 08:41:07 PM »
He doesn't deserve a benefit.  FACT.

It should have been given to Swampy, a proper, loyal, Essex cricketer who captained his county to success and would still be doing so if it hadn't been for the disgusting work of a few people involved in the DK affair.

I agree. Cook's going to do very well as a result of being England captain. Bopara's in a different position, of course, then come Pettini etc.