Newton report

[kingstonj1]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

[essexfan548]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

No, the guilty should cough up. Surely we fined them ..

[JasonP]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

There were a number of players interviewed in this Newton report.  It is highly likely to get to this stage that a number of the people interviewed corroborated the stories.  From what has been said since the Rafiq affair these kind of things happened all over English cricket during this time and so it?s highly likely the allegations are true.  What does seem unfair is that Essex and Yorkshire are the ones that have been punished for it when it?s pretty clear that this was commonplace.

[essexfan548]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

There were a number of players interviewed in this Newton report.  It is highly likely to get to this stage that a number of the people interviewed corroborated the stories.  From what has been said since the Rafiq affair these kind of things happened all over English cricket during this time and so it?s highly likely the allegations are true.  What does seem unfair is that Essex and Yorkshire are the ones that have been punished for it when it?s pretty clear that this was commonplace.

I agree - I certainly heard comments about our players from opposition players and supporters - such 'banter' was common. These players need to report it ..

[kingstonj1]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

There were a number of players interviewed in this Newton report.  It is highly likely to get to this stage that a number of the people interviewed corroborated the stories.  From what has been said since the Rafiq affair these kind of things happened all over English cricket during this time and so it?s highly likely the allegations are true.  What does seem unfair is that Essex and Yorkshire are the ones that have been punished for it when it?s pretty clear that this was commonplace.

My point is that it's a complete overreaction to some of which may be true or not. Its not nice and shouldnt happen but the reaction is a hysterical witchhunt such is the popular cause so a compete ott waste of money enquiry has been done that benefits nonone but the lawyers.

t's funny how the likes of ravi never made claims and its inky those with an axe to grind....

[Andy]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

No, the guilty should cough up. Surely we fined them ..

Doubt it. That?s the real problem lack of leadership at the time. Retrospective action would just cost more money.

[essexfan548]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

No, the guilty should cough up. Surely we fined them ..

Doubt it. That?s the real problem lack of leadership at the time. Retrospective action would just cost more money.

The report says they were sanctioned - that should have included a fine at the very least.

[Cartero]

The report covers a time when the club was badly run, both in the committee room and in the playing department. Many of us on here said that repeatedly,  calling for EGM's votes of no confidence etc. It was also a period of little playing success and repeated deadbeat signings. Eventually from 2016 a much better committee and coaching structure was in place and playing success followed. This is unlikely to be coincidental.  It's the then cricket committee (especially them rather than the main one)  and coaching staff who failed to see that there was a bad atmosphere around the place because they were enjoying a complacent existence with their mates. It would be good if they collectively picked up the tab (which of course is much more than the fine) but as has been said above,  trying to achieve that would merely enrich our learned friends even more. Let's move on, start 2025 with a clean sheet and hope that the dressing room culture is now better.

[kingstonj1]

Given the whipping up of tensions and faux hysteria about all this we have got off lightly given the way the wind is blowing on this front so should be happy I guess, but really if a cold hard objective view was taken not pandering to he said she said and the burden of proof rather than allegations instantly being believed then we shouldn't be facing any penalty.

How many members do we have? 20 quid each covers this I'd contribute.

No, the guilty should cough up. Surely we fined them ..

Doubt it. That?s the real problem lack of leadership at the time. Retrospective action would just cost more money.

The report says they were sanctioned - that should have included a fine at the very least.

Not sure how you could fine them if no longer an employee. LG, DK and the others are not at the club.