Third Test in India

[Oldhasbeen]

An embarrassingly bad batting display by England - twice. But it's still 1-1 and everything to play for.!

Ahmedabad said to be more seamer friendly. The cavalry have arrived in the form of mssrs Bairstow, Wood, Curran and maybe Crawley & Archer.  Who should we pick?

[honkytonk]

Id be tempted to go

Sibley
Crawley
Bairstow
Root
Pope
Stokes
Foakes
Bess
Archer
Anderson
Leach

Hopefully Stokes will bowl  bit more.  I think this is a day night game?? I think that will help us a bit more also

[Oldhasbeen]

HonkyTonk, I'd probably go for the same XI. 

Yesterday I'd have picked Moeen over Bess, but I think Mo's mind will be on the plane.

If it REALLY looks seamer friendly I suppose picking Woakes or Curran over Bess is a possibility.

[nat]

HonkyTonk, I'd probably go for the same XI. 

Yesterday I'd have picked Moeen over Bess, but I think Mo's mind will be on the plane.

If it REALLY looks seamer friendly I suppose picking Woakes or Curran over Bess is a possibility.

Doesn't look world beating does it?

[honkytonk]

HonkyTonk, I'd probably go for the same XI. 

Yesterday I'd have picked Moeen over Bess, but I think Mo's mind will be on the plane.

If it REALLY looks seamer friendly I suppose picking Woakes or Curran over Bess is a possibility.

Doesn't look world beating does it?

More or less was good enough for the first test though!!! 

The batting in general is a young unit with Sibley, Burns, Lawrence, Crawley and Pope.  Some good players there and some that will be looking over their shoulder at Bracey/Lammondby.   Fast bowling is fine.  Spinners are a worry but we have no "Experienced" spinner available to come in.  The spinners are very much learning their game in internationals, which is fine for me.  If they do not play they do not get the experience.  We have a decent core of young spinners - Leach, Bess, Crane, Parkinson, Moriaty, Viridi.  All at different stages of development but none the finished article yet in terms of internationals.  Its one reason I would keep Moeen away from the test side now, blood the youngsters.  Id like to think that some of the batters mentioned and the spinners playing will learn a hell of a lot playing against India this winter

[JasonP]

HonkyTonk, I'd probably go for the same XI. 

Yesterday I'd have picked Moeen over Bess, but I think Mo's mind will be on the plane.

If it REALLY looks seamer friendly I suppose picking Woakes or Curran over Bess is a possibility.

Doesn't look world beating does it?

It doesn’t.  To be honest they’ve already done better than I expected this winter with three wins from Sri Lanka and India.  I would have taken three wins from six before they went out.  India are massively better than us in these conditions.

[Oldhasbeen]

HonkyTonk, I'd probably go for the same XI. 

Yesterday I'd have picked Moeen over Bess, but I think Mo's mind will be on the plane.

If it REALLY looks seamer friendly I suppose picking Woakes or Curran over Bess is a possibility.

Doesn't look world beating does it?

More or less was good enough for the first test though!!! 

The batting in general is a young unit with Sibley, Burns, Lawrence, Crawley and Pope.  Some good players there and some that will be looking over their shoulder at Bracey/Lammondby.   Fast bowling is fine.  Spinners are a worry but we have no "Experienced" spinner available to come in.  The spinners are very much learning their game in internationals, which is fine for me.  If they do not play they do not get the experience.  We have a decent core of young spinners - Leach, Bess, Crane, Parkinson, Moriaty, Viridi.  All at different stages of development but none the finished article yet in terms of internationals.  Its one reason I would keep Moeen away from the test side now, blood the youngsters.  Id like to think that some of the batters mentioned and the spinners playing will learn a hell of a lot playing against India this winter

Re the 4 young spinners, I've been impressed with Parkinson, unimpressed with Crane and haven't seen Moriaty or Viridi.
Shame none of them appear to have any ability with the bat. With Jack Leach being number 1 spinner and  the seam attack likely to include 2 of Jimmy, Big Stu, Joff & Ollie S, it'll be difficult to include another rabbit in the line-up.

[honkytonk]

HonkyTonk, I'd probably go for the same XI. 

Yesterday I'd have picked Moeen over Bess, but I think Mo's mind will be on the plane.

If it REALLY looks seamer friendly I suppose picking Woakes or Curran over Bess is a possibility.

Doesn't look world beating does it?

More or less was good enough for the first test though!!! 

The batting in general is a young unit with Sibley, Burns, Lawrence, Crawley and Pope.  Some good players there and some that will be looking over their shoulder at Bracey/Lammondby.   Fast bowling is fine.  Spinners are a worry but we have no "Experienced" spinner available to come in.  The spinners are very much learning their game in internationals, which is fine for me.  If they do not play they do not get the experience.  We have a decent core of young spinners - Leach, Bess, Crane, Parkinson, Moriaty, Viridi.  All at different stages of development but none the finished article yet in terms of internationals.  Its one reason I would keep Moeen away from the test side now, blood the youngsters.  Id like to think that some of the batters mentioned and the spinners playing will learn a hell of a lot playing against India this winter

Re the 4 young spinners, I've been impressed with Parkinson, unimpressed with Crane and haven't seen Moriaty or Viridi.
Shame none of them appear to have any ability with the bat. With Jack Leach being number 1 spinner and  the seam attack likely to include 2 of Jimmy, Big Stu, Joff & Ollie S, it'll be difficult to include another rabbit in the line-up.

I think Parkinson looks a good player.  There has been lots of talk during the commentary of Lancs games that he bowls too slow!!!!  If the bloke is taking wickets (which he does), why would it matter.  Stop picking bits apart and just play him.

[JasonP]

HonkyTonk, I'd probably go for the same XI. 

Yesterday I'd have picked Moeen over Bess, but I think Mo's mind will be on the plane.

If it REALLY looks seamer friendly I suppose picking Woakes or Curran over Bess is a possibility.

Doesn't look world beating does it?

More or less was good enough for the first test though!!! 

The batting in general is a young unit with Sibley, Burns, Lawrence, Crawley and Pope.  Some good players there and some that will be looking over their shoulder at Bracey/Lammondby.   Fast bowling is fine.  Spinners are a worry but we have no "Experienced" spinner available to come in.  The spinners are very much learning their game in internationals, which is fine for me.  If they do not play they do not get the experience.  We have a decent core of young spinners - Leach, Bess, Crane, Parkinson, Moriaty, Viridi.  All at different stages of development but none the finished article yet in terms of internationals.  Its one reason I would keep Moeen away from the test side now, blood the youngsters.  Id like to think that some of the batters mentioned and the spinners playing will learn a hell of a lot playing against India this winter

Re the 4 young spinners, I've been impressed with Parkinson, unimpressed with Crane and haven't seen Moriaty or Viridi.
Shame none of them appear to have any ability with the bat. With Jack Leach being number 1 spinner and  the seam attack likely to include 2 of Jimmy, Big Stu, Joff & Ollie S, it'll be difficult to include another rabbit in the line-up.

I think Parkinson looks a good player.  There has been lots of talk during the commentary of Lancs games that he bowls too slow!!!!  If the bloke is taking wickets (which he does), why would it matter.  Stop picking bits apart and just play him.

He doesn't play that much for Lancashire.  When he's played he's done ok in 4 day cricket but Lancashire have a lot of decent seamers and so he's basically not really needed.  The most he's ever got in a season is 20 and 10 of those came in one match.  I've not seen him that much in 4 day cricket but he does bowl very slowly in the T20 matches I've seen.  The same reason was given for India not picking Kuldeep Yadav for the 1st Test Match.

[Andy]

 What's Lammonby like as a bowler?  I'm not thinking of him as an opener with bat and ball, but he and Stokes could be a 'fifth bowler'. We have a lot of bats with keeping pretentious, but we need proper bats who can bowl more than a couple of token overs before tea.

Broads's bottle has gone against pace, Archer is frankly lazy whether Curran minor can cut it as a test all rounder...

[nat]

Someone ought to be having a serious word with Archer. He can bat but is not doing it for England. He cannot continue batting as he has done at no.9.

Seems like we are treating Archer with kid gloves.

[honkytonk]

I get the impression with Archer (I could be wrong), that he just cant be bothered with the bat.  He looks lazy.  A bit more application and I think he is a decent bat (Not a world beater, but much better than he is showing). 

[Oldhasbeen]

Joffra at 8 - gulp!

Brave selection or what?

[nat]

Joffra at 8 - gulp!

Brave selection or what?

what.

[Oldhasbeen]

Two more wickets and we'll see if Joffra's got it as a potential all rounded.

I fear the worst