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Offline IlfordEagle

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2019, 01:35:53 PM »
Like most other real Essex supporters I dearly want us to win the CC again & I believe we will although it will be close with Somerset & Yorkshire, who are coming up fast on the rails & who have an 'easy' looking run in, pressing us, however I still follow us in white ball cricket enthusiastically & at least want us to be competitive which frankly we are not , only a couple of times in each competition have we been so this season. It has been a gradual decline over 2/3 seasons to the point where we are arguably the weakest team in the South group. It has been previously mentioned about having a 1 day Coach & this should be given serious thought, I had hoped Mascarenhas might make a difference but alas no & we really haven't moved on & look laboured at best & recently de motivated.

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2019, 02:36:15 PM »
Totally accept that the disciplines required and different formats between red and white ball cricket, and that these dictate team selection, hence omission of Porter Cook, Little Chef. Is he fit now?

However I might be fanciful here, but I would like to think that professional pride still accounts for much, and is an important value of this wonderful game.

In successive home matches we have suffered horrendous collapses, last night 8-36 and dismissed in under 13 overs. Not much professional pride here.

An increasing worry is  that losing continually, becomes a habit, as self confidence declines, anxiety magnifies and an ever deepening rut from which to escape is ever more difficult.

Is this form going to affect our Championship performance. I would like to think not, as the team will be significantly different, but if we do go to the last match in contention with Somerset, they will have derived a big confidence boost, even if a different format.

Some members of this board seem worryingly complacent if we fail to attract decent crowds.

It is hard enough for cricket to attract decent crowds, even to our small ground. Crowds represent income, whether through membership, casual attendance, families and commodity sales from beer, ice cream to burgers.

We are not  the wealthiest County, not by a long way, and the more finance we can generate from whatever source, the better the players we can afford, especially overseas players, and thus turn our fortunes around.

Whether purists like it or not, T20 is now an integral part of our game, and with The Hundred arriving next year with its franchise bases far from Chelmsford, retaining support, financial and attendant, will become even harder.

Even the most loyal of supporters can turn away if results continue to be abysmal, let alone the likelihood of attracting a new generation of fans.

Wake up Essex, the future is now.

I would hope some really serious dialogue is now happening at senior management and ownership  level, and that heads are not burying themselves in the sand.

I have my doubts.

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2019, 03:02:27 PM »
I genuinely believe that the average person attending a 20/20 match has little idea of where the teams are in their league. I know some people who attend a couple of Yorkshire matches and say they go for the "spectacle" and the night out. They really do not care who wins but want to see plenty of "action". I suspect that this is true of many so even a losing team still brings in the crowds.

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2019, 04:26:18 PM »
I genuinely believe that the average person attending a 20/20 match has little idea of where the teams are in their league. I know some people who attend a couple of Yorkshire matches and say they go for the "spectacle" and the night out. They really do not care who wins but want to see plenty of "action". I suspect that this is true of many so even a losing team still brings in the crowds.

Sadly, i think you are spot on! As long as the p***heads get to see a few balls flying out of the ground, then most of them dont give a stuff from whom's bat the ball has been dispatched from!.....and that will only get worse next year too!! :(

Offline SirChef26

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2019, 10:58:48 PM »
It’s the revenue loss I’m worried about. People aren’t going to come next year at this rate and that will hit our coffers hard. The club only have themselves to blame though.

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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2019, 09:19:44 AM »
I genuinely believe that the average person attending a 20/20 match has little idea of where the teams are in their league. I know some people who attend a couple of Yorkshire matches and say they go for the "spectacle" and the night out. They really do not care who wins but want to see plenty of "action". I suspect that this is true of many so even a losing team still brings in the crowds.

Exactly.

Peopel will still turn up however badly we do. Friday, Thursday and saturday night games will still be packed. My mates don't care who wins really or where Essex are. They don't go to any other cricket but like the spectacle and night out a couple of times a season. This will not change.

People saying it will if we keep being crap are the never happy brigade. 

We haven't had it so good in 4 day cricket for decades yet now they moan about our poor t20 form despite being the very same folk who claim to hate the t20 format and constantly moan previously about Essex being crap at 4 day cricket.

Ffs we are a smallish county we cannot be best at all formats! We simply cannot afford to maintain a squad that is. At times we will luck out and have players good in all formats. At other times we won't. I for one would much rather be good at 4 day cricket than the short forms.

I will say that the club haven't done themselves any favours in the o/s signings especially the dire Zampa. Batsmen make more of a difference in t20.

If giving harmer the captaincy means he stays with us that's that's a price I'm happy to pay as long as he keeps delivering in 4 day cricket.

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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2019, 09:42:29 AM »
Good morning all,

I am a lifelong Somerset supporter who follows Somerset around the country and writes match reports on most days of Somerset cricket. I came to Chelmsford for the T20 last week and for the CC match earlier in the season. Recently my report on the Somerset v Hampshire T20 was picked up by a Hampshire supporters' forum and gained some interest. Since then I have posted links to my match reports on opposition supporters discussion forums where they have been viewed a number of times.

My reports are written from a Somerset perspective but I try to be objective about the play of both sides and also to give a sense of what it was like to be at the day of cricket in question. For anyone interested here is a link direct to the 'v Essex' tag on my website.

https://farmerwhite.co.uk/tag/v-essex/

It is a blog-style site so the days of cricket appear in reverse date order with the most recent at the top. The tag contains the Somerset v Essex T20 and 50 over matches this year and daily reports on the last three CC matches between the two sides. I would just warn that my reports cover a day's play in detail. They are not short!

Regards

'Farmer White'


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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2019, 09:45:27 AM »
Welcome Farmer White. I attended the recent Yorkshire v Somerset match and sort out a Somerset viewpoint. I came across your site and was very impressed with your reports. Lots of local colour as well as incise cricket comment. I highly recommend the site to all fans.

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2019, 12:34:57 PM »
Grockles

Still moaning about their batting!

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2019, 01:39:57 PM »
I genuinely believe that the average person attending a 20/20 match has little idea of where the teams are in their league. I know some people who attend a couple of Yorkshire matches and say they go for the "spectacle" and the night out. They really do not care who wins but want to see plenty of "action". I suspect that this is true of many so even a losing team still brings in the crowds.

Exactly.

Peopel will still turn up however badly we do. Friday, Thursday and saturday night games will still be packed. My mates don't care who wins really or where Essex are. They don't go to any other cricket but like the spectacle and night out a couple of times a season. This will not change.

People saying it will if we keep being crap are the never happy brigade. 

We haven't had it so good in 4 day cricket for decades yet now they moan about our poor t20 form despite being the very same folk who claim to hate the t20 format and constantly moan previously about Essex being crap at 4 day cricket.

Ffs we are a smallish county we cannot be best at all formats! We simply cannot afford to maintain a squad that is. At times we will luck out and have players good in all formats. At other times we won't. I for one would much rather be good at 4 day cricket than the short forms.

I will say that the club haven't done themselves any favours in the o/s signings especially the dire Zampa. Batsmen make more of a difference in t20.

If giving harmer the captaincy means he stays with us that's that's a price I'm happy to pay as long as he keeps delivering in 4 day cricket.

Excellent post

I agree with every word

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2019, 03:24:36 PM »
Excellent post Farmer White, agree with all you say.

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2019, 03:51:11 PM »
Excellent post Farmer White, agree with all you say.

I've been reading Farmer White's match reviews for a while now. Highly recommended whoever Somerset are playing

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Re: Somerset H
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2019, 09:19:03 AM »
Thanks for the kind comments.Much appreciated.