England Lions

[pieinthesky]

Interesting that WI are thrashing england.

Even more interesting that Jack Leach and the part timers have comprehensively outbowled and outperformed Mason Crane and have the captains trust more tham him.

pathetic that he got a test cap ahead of Leach and just goes to show the power of the ignorant media who campaigned for him to play when i imagine  most of them had never seen him before in his fleeting Hants appearances. Their judgement was based on the fact he played for a State side during an injury crisis in a competition that is quite weak these days. These are the same idiots who reactionarly day the county championship is not fit for purpose.

[Slogger]

Interesting that WI are thrashing england.

Even more interesting that Jack Leach and the part timers have comprehensively outbowled and outperformed Mason Crane and have the captains trust more tham him.

pathetic that he got a test cap ahead of Leach and just goes to show the power of the ignorant media who campaigned for him to play when i imagine  most of them had never seen him before in his fleeting Hants appearances. Their judgement was based on the fact he played for a State side during an injury crisis in a competition that is quite weak these days. These are the same idiots who reactionarly day the county championship is not fit for purpose.

Having seen both Crane and Leach bowl live it's clear to me who should have been on the Ashes tour - and it wasn't Crane. Bess strikes me as a better prospect than Crane too.

[LeedsExile]

Pieinthesky You are quite right. The people who pontificate about players never watch any county cricket on the whole. When did anybody see Agnew at a county match? It is embarrassing when new players are selected how little the so called experts know about them.

[nat]

Pieinthesky You are quite right. The people who pontificate about players never watch any county cricket on the whole. When did anybody see Agnew at a county match? It is embarrassing when new players are selected how little the so called experts know about them.

Let's name names. The whole Sky commentary crew.

[Heisenberg]

In the 3 first class games the Lions played out in the West Indies, Mason Crane took only one wicket.

In spin friendly conditions that is quite incredible.

Ben Foakes no runs. How he, Livingstone and Crane made the test team for New Zealand amazes me. While we're at it, Stoneman and Vince clearly aren't good enough either. And thank god they finally dropped Jake Ball, another one who is very average.

[Andy]

In the 3 first class games the Lions played out in the West Indies, Mason Crane took only one wicket.

In spin friendly conditions that is quite incredible.

Ben Foakes no runs. How he, Livingstone and Crane made the test team for New Zealand amazes me. While we're at it, Stoneman and Vince clearly aren't good enough either. And thank god they finally dropped Jake Ball, another one who is very average.

Is there anyone good enough for the Test team in county cricket???

[JasonP]

If players are being picked on the say so of the media, and there's no evidence this is true, then it is the fault of the selectors and not the media.
You can see why Crane was picked.  Generally finger spinners don't do that well in Australia, although Lyon is an exception to that.  They took a punt on him.  I don't think he's good enough at the moment  but maybe he could turn out to be?  Leach wouldn't have taken wickets out there.  He played 2 matches in Australia., one for England Lions and one for England in a warm up match and he got smashed.

[Andy]

Good unfortunate to see a poor performance from Porter against Windies A. Hopefully this means another full season for us at ECCC 

[Valentines Park]

And thank god they finally dropped Jake Ball, another one who is very average.

Ball aspires to be average.

Every time I've seen him bowl he's been shocking.

[essexfan548]

Good unfortunate to see a poor performance from Porter against Windies A. Hopefully this means another full season for us at ECCC 

Dan Lawrence hasn't even been in the team yet ...

[essexfan548]

Jamie Porter rested for Third Test and Dan Lawrence flying home with a fractured right hand - not great news

[Slogger]

Hope Dan is OK for April in Leeds! And I hope it warms up a bit before then too!

[Gilders]

Pieinthesky You are quite right. The people who pontificate about players never watch any county cricket on the whole. When did anybody see Agnew at a county match? It is embarrassing when new players are selected how little the so called experts know about them.

It also defied belief that the selectors should pick a SLA and 2 leggies.  Not a balanced attack and not the ideal attack for big spinning conditions.  On a real Bunsen an offie can be much more effective turning the ball into the right handers whereas the leggie or SLA might just miss everything with a big turner.  Take the example of Laker and Lock in the famous Old Trafford test in 1956 - the offie got 19 of the 20 wickets!

Seems that Bess was available but not picked as was Lawrence as a part time offie - no wonder England and Lions don't win matches if they are managed like that.

[Gilders]

Looks like Lions will lose 3 out of 3 - but now that Bess has played he has taken a five-fer.

Represents 5 times Crane's combined haul from the first 2 games.

[Slogger]

Looks like Lions will lose 3 out of 3 - but now that Bess has played he has taken a five-fer.

Represents 5 times Crane's combined haul from the first 2 games.

To my untutored eye Bess looks like the best young English spinner. Good luck to the bloke.