Glamorgan (A)

[bwildered]

 A wins a win.
MOTM Walter almost  pulls out off another hat trick. Great team effort. Just when getting in the swing of things red ball reappears.

[nat]

... Just when getting in the swing of things red ball reappears.

That's what you and others wanted, red ball cricket throughout the season.

[Gilders]

Silly question, but what would the problem be with playing say 1 red ball game and 1 white ball each week through the season?  A bit like when they used to run JPL and CC through the season with some brief pauses for B&H and Gillette?  If players are continually playing both short and long cricket in all conditions, then the arguments about it being difficult to adjust should drop away they just get used to both.  White ball every Friday night, red ball every Sunday to Weds?  People would even know when games were due to happen.

The only problem I could see would be that the overseas players in white ball would not just be signed for a few weeks they would have to be around all season - and maybe even double up as the CC overseas.

[Slogger]

Silly question, but what would the problem be with playing say 1 red ball game and 1 white ball each week through the season?  A bit like when they used to run JPL and CC through the season with some brief pauses for B&H and Gillette?  If players are continually playing both short and long cricket in all conditions, then the arguments about it being difficult to adjust should drop away they just get used to both.  White ball every Friday night, red ball every Sunday to Weds?  People would even know when games were due to happen.

The only problem I could see would be that the overseas players in white ball would not just be signed for a few weeks they would have to be around all season - and maybe even double up as the CC overseas.

Spot on

[Gilders]

Thank you Slogger.

I have a question for Aztec - or any other statistician - as well please arising from this match.  Specifically the last over of the Essex innings.

The scorecards on BBC and Cricinfo show Buttleman as having scored 10 not out from 3 and Cook as not having faced a ball.  And if you look at the Cricinfo commentary it says the last ball of the innings was faced by Buttleman and was a bye.

Surely Snater was run out off a wide at the striker's end off what would have been the last ball except for being a wide, Cook came in to replace him at the striker's end and faced the last ball and should be shown as 0 from 1 and Buttleman only faced 4 6 and wide so should be shown as 10 from 2 as wides don't count as balls faced?

Please advise.

[essexfan548]

I just watched the replay and Sam faced the last ball.

[SirChef26]

Silly question, but what would the problem be with playing say 1 red ball game and 1 white ball each week through the season?  A bit like when they used to run JPL and CC through the season with some brief pauses for B&H and Gillette?  If players are continually playing both short and long cricket in all conditions, then the arguments about it being difficult to adjust should drop away they just get used to both.  White ball every Friday night, red ball every Sunday to Weds?  People would even know when games were due to happen.

The only problem I could see would be that the overseas players in white ball would not just be signed for a few weeks they would have to be around all season - and maybe even double up as the CC overseas.

We've had this before when the four competitions were the CC, T20, Pro 40 and ODC. The players hated it, having to switch between red and white ball cricket so often, said it had a detrimental effect on performance levels and the standard of cricket, especially with the amount of travel involved and lack of dedicated practice/recovery time. That's why we moved to blocks around ten years ago when the T20 comp got rebranded to the 'T20 Blast' and the Pro40 got canned. Plus the overseas issue as you mentioned.

I feel a bit sorry for Glamorgan. Whilst we have the comfort of a home match against Somerset before the reverse Blast fixture, Glamorgan have to go to Durham for four days before trekking it to Chelmsford with just one day's rest. Should theoretically put them at a disadvantage for next Friday.

[Perov]

It gives Glamorgan the incentive to win in 3 days and get an extra day off!

[bwildered]

... Just when getting in the swing of things red ball reappears.

That's what you and others wanted, red ball cricket throughout the season.

 My point being a red ball game followed by another batch of white ball does not help anyone gaining momentum.

[smandlej]

Silly question, but what would the problem be with playing say 1 red ball game and 1 white ball each week through the season?  A bit like when they used to run JPL and CC through the season with some brief pauses for B&H and Gillette?  If players are continually playing both short and long cricket in all conditions, then the arguments about it being difficult to adjust should drop away they just get used to both.  White ball every Friday night, red ball every Sunday to Weds?  People would even know when games were due to happen.

The only problem I could see would be that the overseas players in white ball would not just be signed for a few weeks they would have to be around all season - and maybe even double up as the CC overseas.

We've had this before when the four competitions were the CC, T20, Pro 40 and ODC. The players hated it, having to switch between red and white ball cricket so often, said it had a detrimental effect on performance levels and the standard of cricket, especially with the amount of travel involved and lack of dedicated practice/recovery time. That's why we moved to blocks around ten years ago when the T20 comp got rebranded to the 'T20 Blast' and the Pro40 got canned. Plus the overseas issue as you mentioned.

I feel a bit sorry for Glamorgan. Whilst we have the comfort of a home match against Somerset before the reverse Blast fixture, Glamorgan have to go to Durham for four days before trekking it to Chelmsford with just one day's rest. Should theoretically put them at a disadvantage for next Friday.

We're feeling sorry for Essex, with the number of games they've had to shoehorn in since the Ireland match, also with little rest.

Lynda and Steve

[Perov]

I just watched the replay and Sam faced the last ball.

Yes, the official scorecard is wrong.  Cook faced the last  ball and ran a bye. Buttleman faced 2 balls and then a wide, which got him up the bowlers end as Snater was run out.

[Gilders]

Thanks.  Now we have established that the official scorecard is wrong, is there any process for getting it corrected?  Or is it too late, whatever channels we were to go through?  Can we go through the club or the ECB for instance?  I know it is a small error, but it would be nice to have it right.

[bwildered]

 Could send a message to Aztec under the Essex stats header asking him to evaluate.