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Offline pablo

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« Reply #120 on: December 07, 2022, 03:48:03 PM »
And Geoff Hurst used the phrase on TV in the nineties when commentating on a game with Garth Crooks! Last time I looked he was still a national hero. I only know John Farragher in passing but he, and his father before him, devoted a lot of their lives to the interests of Essex cricket and for very little if any financial benefit. I know he took the time to ring many members during the pandemic to ask after their welfare and presided, in stark contrast to his predecessor, to a period of remarkable on field success. Some of the players allegedly maltreated in the past played at time when he wasn't chairman anyway. He was always accessible to members at forums too in stark contrast to the directly appointed new board members who couldn't even be bothered to turn up at the last AGM. In short I think he has been appallingly treated.

i have no truck with racism, sexism or homophobia and have been threatened physically when confronting the overt manifestations of these things at cricket and football matches but now we clearly have people who see any or all of these things in 'a hand full of dust' and where those terms are close to losing all meaning -a failure to differentiate in relative seriousness between ethnic cleansing on the one hand and the sins of unconcious bias on the other. If you are not in the minority, trying to argue your case is dismissed on the grounds that you are not in that minority and don't understand, so heads you lose and tails you lose.

Where the club, and other organisations are culpable, is apparent laxity( if they exist at al) in having thorough discipline, grievance procedures and other policies associated with behavioural codes of practice and whistleblowing. I get the impression that responsibility for these things at Essex was held by a junior admin assistant at best.If true that has to change but don't leave it either to the HR consultants responsible for selecting Azeem.


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« Reply #121 on: December 08, 2022, 03:14:18 PM »
I think Pablo sums up the clubs main fault in being very amateur (in the pejorative sense of the word) at handling potentially difficult situations for the club and its stakeholders.  Well, they are paying (heavily) for both HR messes now.  Maybe there will be a climb-down and Nasser may be asked to get involved.

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« Reply #122 on: December 13, 2022, 01:38:57 PM »
I think Pablo sums up the clubs main fault in being very amateur (in the pejorative sense of the word) at handling potentially difficult situations for the club and its stakeholders.  Well, they are paying (heavily) for both HR messes now.  Maybe there will be a climb-down and Nasser may be asked to get involved.

I'd suggest that assessment is rather accurate.
ECCC have been reactionary - at best- over a whole host of issues for a significant period of time.
Failure to get the level of expertise in positions of management, that required specialisms, has long been an achilles heel of the Club. Unfortunately, what we've seen is a continuation of jobs for the boys, selected/appointed because they happen to be good buddies with the ex-captain/current committee member, et al.
A clear absence of any coherent succession planning is all too apparent.

As for Nass, I think he upset too many people and told home truths to just those sort of people referenced above.
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Offline bwildered

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« Reply #123 on: December 13, 2022, 03:16:22 PM »
 And tell me why would Nasser be asked to get involved ?

Offline Andy

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« Reply #124 on: December 13, 2022, 10:03:04 PM »
And tell me why would Nasser be asked to get involved ?

Mog has answered your question. Because Nasser upset those who were blundering along as the team sunk down the divisions and the dressing room was full of unpleasant little idiots who got their contracts by brown nosing the right people. Whilst I won’t speculate about the veracity of the particular claims to ‘racism’ in the team, it wouldn’t surprise me one iota.

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« Reply #125 on: December 15, 2022, 12:49:32 AM »
And tell me why would Nasser be asked to get involved ?
Because he's intelligent, known and respected across the entire cricketing world, takes absolutely no s**t from anyone, doesn't settle for mediocrity and is a born winner. He'd tell it like it is and sort out the absolute shambles that is our club within a few months. The fact that he ticks every 'diversity' box in the locker is just an added bonus.

I'd name him chairman and give him the keys to Chelmsford tomorrow if I thought he'd even consider getting involved. However, he's got a nice cushy well-paid gig which he's bloody good at that will keep him and his family nice and secure financially until he's old and grey. For that reason, he wouldn't give us a second glance unfortunately.

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« Reply #126 on: December 15, 2022, 06:39:49 AM »
There was an incident in the Stuart Law no show game at Colchester. When Essex went out to field in the last session of a bore draw, Ashley Cowan was absent and replaced by a substitute. Nasser Hussain as the team took the field was stating his disapproval to members of the team with a number of swear words and that he was going take the matter of someone possibly skiving off up with the coaching staff. He was not the Captain that day by the way.

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« Reply #127 on: December 15, 2022, 09:51:07 AM »
There was an incident in the Stuart Law no show game at Colchester. When Essex went out to field in the last session of a bore draw, Ashley Cowan was absent and replaced by a substitute. Nasser Hussain as the team took the field was stating his disapproval to members of the team with a number of swear words and that he was going take the matter of someone possibly skiving off up with the coaching staff. He was not the Captain that day by the way.

Just confirms to me that he is exactly the wrong person to be in any position of authority.

Offline Andy

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« Reply #128 on: December 15, 2022, 10:52:23 PM »
There was an incident in the Stuart Law no show game at Colchester. When Essex went out to field in the last session of a bore draw, Ashley Cowan was absent and replaced by a substitute. Nasser Hussain as the team took the field was stating his disapproval to members of the team with a number of swear words and that he was going take the matter of someone possibly skiving off up with the coaching staff. He was not the Captain that day by the way.

Just confirms to me that he is exactly the wrong person to be in any position of authority.

I would’ve thought it is exactly what we need.

Offline kingstonj1

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« Reply #129 on: December 15, 2022, 11:54:06 PM »
The new chairman issue aside how is the club a shambles? The previous and ongoing issue excluding the chairman one was a witch hunt that we had no option but to comply with as anyone with an ounce of common sense would know. Yes the joke new chairman is hilarious turnaround and the forced committee (again it was done to comply with what we are being made to by the powers that be).

On the pitch we are still punching above our weight and off it we have no money, even less now, to improve things.

I really think people need to take a step back and instead of making stupid soundbites back them up with some substance.

All this has been caused by 2 committee members who didnt like JF's way of doing things, and used a febrile atmosphere in the court of public opinion to get their revenge based on  something he may or may not have said and had no racist connotation regardless. Everything else has snowballed from there and a direct symptom of these 2 bloke revenge. Mud sticks in the crazy atmosphere where tiny numbers of people drive the overall agenda, and we have had no choice but to comply to all the nonsense since or face sever punishment. Who knows if the failed players unprovable allegations would have come out had the spotlight not been on us due to JF;s alleged remark.

The 2 accusers have a hell of a lot to answer for and its simply been a ride the club had no choice but to take since then, the new chairman issue aside.

I think NH would be keen on a rol of some sort as he cares deeply and lives locally, similar to beefys role at Durham. I don't think he would though as i don't think he would toe the ecb line necessarily something we have to do or risk punishment.

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« Reply #130 on: December 16, 2022, 06:54:53 AM »
If John Faragher is sucessful in his action. Will the club attempt to reclaim the money paid out from the two accusers?


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« Reply #131 on: December 16, 2022, 08:57:00 AM »
When will this 'report' be published?

- Investigation started 6 Dec 2021. Findings to be presented in the 'New Year' per the email at the time - it did not say which 'New Year'!

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