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Cricket => England Test => Topic started by: squarelegumpire on January 27, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
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Picked up 174, admittedly against Fiji but still a big one.
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He is having a superb winter, well done Dan!
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Fiji?!
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Yes, it is the second highest in the history of the U19's cup.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-under-19-world-cup-2016/content/story/966037.html
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If he he is the next player to play for England from Essex, he will be a bit more exciting to watch than Cook, methinks. Nothing against Cook, he is superb at what he does, but he is a bit limited in stroke play, whereas Dan can also play the short game to a high standard. I know it is early days for him, but it seems to me that he is destined for high honours. I guess Messrs. Browne and Westley harbour ambitions to also play for the country. Looking at the money that they earn now playing for England, it must be the dream. of every county cricketer.
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Thus crucial we get promoted and keep them all at Chelmsford.
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It's always the case that the younger County players seem to mature reasonably quickly to a point where they are ahead of their opposite numbers from other countries. However, for the latter, they seem to manage a steeper learning curve when transitioning to international level.
Central contracts perhaps do work to pull younger players out of their county comfort zones - but are we just seeing a problem with too little quality 4-5 day cricket experience?
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It's not forget Doropoulos -179 all time record and Pagon 176 World Cup record who both went on to better things ?
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It's always the case that the younger County players seem to mature reasonably quickly to a point where they are ahead of their opposite numbers from other countries. However, for the latter, they seem to manage a steeper learning curve when transitioning to international level.
Central contracts perhaps do work to pull younger players out of their county comfort zones - but are we just seeing a problem with too little quality 4-5 day cricket experience?
The modern batsmen can play 80-85mph bowlers all day long. Their problem is playing against even moderate spinners. Take a look at how England played against the Saffer off spinner. Made him look good.
I include the likes of David Masters in this comment. You might almost consider him a spinner when you see what he can do with a ball. The result is that he has had more success in the last 7-8 years than much faster but less skillful bowlers.
So the upshot is that world cricket needs to encourage all types of bowlers not just 85mph+ pie chuckers. How do they do that ...?
Limit bat technology
maximise ground boundary distances
strictly enforce over rates
only one new ball per innings in CC cricket and 1 day cricket
Reduce the number of points for a draw in CC cricket
Job done.
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If he he is the next player to play for England from Essex, he will be a bit more exciting to watch than Cook, methinks. Nothing against Cook, he is superb at what he does, but he is a bit limited in stroke play,
In the record books ir doesn't say how, just how many.
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yes, but we have eyes to read books and watch recordings, etc.
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yes, but we have eyes to read books and watch recordings, etc.
Well I'd rather watch a limited Cook get a 100+ than a flashy player (KP ??) get himself out after 50 - much better for the team.
Anyway, how can you call someone with very nearly 10,000 test runs limited?
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i think you are making mischief, if i used the word 'limited' and it offends you in the case of talking about Cook's ability, then so be it. Maybe i used the wrong word, i was attempting to say and may would have got mr drift, that it is well known fact that Cook has set range of stokes where he gets his runs and is usually great at knowing when to leave the ball. Of course , when he is in the groove, he is arun machine. You may be from the old school who greatly admires his attributes and character and stubbornness , but i have to say, in all essence, that he does not put 'bums' on seats. I acknowledge that the real connoisseur of cricket will love the way Cook plays his cricket. On the hand, the more exciting stroke play of Warner, Root , KP, Stokes and say Hales (if he were to stay longer at the crease) appeals to the masses.
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Another good performanace from Lawrence today. With the ball, as well.
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Yes, 59 runs and 2/38 in 10 overs vs WI
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yes, but we have eyes to read books and watch recordings, etc.
Well I'd rather watch a limited Cook get a 100+ than a flashy player (KP ??) get himself out after 50 - much better for the team.
Anyway, how can you call someone with very nearly 10,000 test runs limited?
very nearly 12,000 test runs!
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Yes, 59 runs and 2/38 in 10 overs vs WI
Supposed to be a budding keeper?!
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Man of the Match, too.
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yes, but we have eyes to read books and watch recordings, etc.
Well I'd rather watch a limited Cook get a 100+ than a flashy player (KP ??) get himself out after 50 - much better for the team.
Anyway, how can you call someone with very nearly 10,000 test runs limited?
very nearly 12,000 test runs!
You're only as good as your last few performances. There must be a statto out there who can tell us his average over the last couple of years.
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I see Happymans comments have not grown with age.
I didnt know if he noticed that Callum Taylor was Englands top scorer against WI?
We have another potential England star of the future, who may not be boring either?
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yes i did old chap, correct me if am wrong but this is the Dan lawrence thread, if you want to start A taylor thread, you have my permission...lol
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I know this the Lawrence thread, but young Callum Taylor took 3-14 today, and Lawrence got another 50. Both of them doing well.Hope they can keep it up from April onwards.
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Great stuff from Lawrence, long may it continue. At a tangent Cook & Bopara bat together - Cook will save you a game & Bopara can win you a game, both ideal but in different circumstances & you need both in your team.
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Great stuff from Lawrence, long may it continue. At a tangent Cook & Bopara bat together - Cook will save you a game & Bopara can win you a game, both ideal but in different circumstances & you need both in your team.
I'm pretty sure Cook has played more match winnings over his career than Bopara has in long form cricket.
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Great stuff from Lawrence, long may it continue. At a tangent Cook & Bopara bat together - Cook will save you a game & Bopara can win you a game, both ideal but in different circumstances & you need both in your team.
I'm pretty sure Cook has played more match winnings over his career than Bopara has in long form cricket.
I'm sure you're right but it was just to show a contrast of styles, Ally & Ravi had batted in big stands together far too rarely, I do remember a big stand in our 2nd innings v Yorks in LVCC1 in 2010 when both scored 102 but not much else (unfortunately I wasn't there when they thrashed the Aussie attack back in 2005).
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I thought bowlers won games. ;)
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Catches win matches.
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disappointing end (getting o) to his last innings in the under 19 t'ment
PS well done to Crisp for at least remembering Dan in his list of players to start the new season for Essex, still laughing at his error in excluding Porter from his list
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disappointing end (getting o) to his last innings in the under 19 t'ment
PS well done to Crisp for at least remembering Dan in his list of players to start the new season for Essex, still laughing at his error in excluding Porter from his list
Strangled down the legside so we'll let him off that one. Should be interesting to see how much he has developed from last season.