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Title: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Maximus on June 24, 2015, 11:18:37 AM
Was anyone else listening online at about 3:45 when instead of the cricket commentary they broadcast a 15 minute personal phone call between one of the commentators and, it seems, a BBC TV news presenter?

I had to go out at 4, so I don't know how long it continued or when said commentator twigged that he was live on air, but it was an almighty cock up.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Andy on June 24, 2015, 11:37:58 AM
Was anyone else listening online at about 3:45 when instead of the cricket commentary they broadcast a 15 minute personal phone call between one of the commentators and, it seems, a BBC TV news presenter?

I had to go out at 4, so I don't know how long it continued or when said commentator twigged that he was live on air, but it was an almighty cock up.

Occasionally they leave the line open for a few seconds when they sign off before intervals and you here polite banter in the background. 

This is only an almighty cock-up if the commentator is trying to have a clandestine affair with the producer - which, given the venerability of certain BBC Essex commentators is probably about as feasible or likely as KP sending a Christmas card to Matt Prior...
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Maximus on June 24, 2015, 01:21:28 PM
Actually, thinking about the timing, it might well have been during the tea interval. Anyway, it was quite a personal conversation (nothing untoward though!) so I imagine they were quite mortified to find out it had been broadcast.

Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Slogger on June 24, 2015, 02:24:29 PM
My mate heard it and reckoned some "chatting up" was going on. Outrageous!
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Andy on June 24, 2015, 04:51:19 PM
My mate heard it and reckoned some "chatting up" was going on. Outrageous!

Hence he kept on listening...  :P
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Valentines Park on June 24, 2015, 05:29:26 PM
Let's take the positives.

Did he get her number?
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: squarelegumpire on June 27, 2015, 01:04:43 AM
Let's take the positives.

Did he get her number?

"Let's take the positives."

Are you changing the habits of a lifetime?
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Valentines Park on June 27, 2015, 07:11:35 AM
If you can't beat them ...
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: sufcessex on June 29, 2015, 09:51:37 AM
i didn't listen on the 23rd but caught a bit of the commentary on the 22nd and thought the 2 guys were superb, although one did have to keep reminding the other they were commentating on a game and the listeners might like an update, saying that, all the banter etc did make the commentary very good.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: quincy on June 29, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
i didn't listen on the 23rd but caught a bit of the commentary on the 22nd and thought the 2 guys were superb, although one did have to keep reminding the other they were commentating on a game and the listeners might like an update, saying that, all the banter etc did make the commentary very good.

Catch a fair bit of commentary on away games and think Dick and Paul are awful. They troop out the same stories/ prejudices over and over again. They glorifying in not having a scorecard, not knowing who is playing, not having internet connection .

They have developed a technique to get through a commentary session which is mainly bluff and bluster. Listen to county matches on 5 live extra and you'll find intelligent, informed, humorous and professional commentaries.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: nat on June 29, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
i didn't listen on the 23rd but caught a bit of the commentary on the 22nd and thought the 2 guys were superb, although one did have to keep reminding the other they were commentating on a game and the listeners might like an update, saying that, all the banter etc did make the commentary very good.

Catch a fair bit of commentary on away games and think Dick and Paul are awful. They troop out the same stories/ prejudices over and over again. They glorifying in not having a scorecard, not knowing who is playing,

...

They'd fit in well at the Hayes Close End.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Andy on June 29, 2015, 04:12:34 PM
Catch a fair bit of commentary on away games and think Dick and Paul are awful. They troop out the same stories/ prejudices over and over again. They glorifying in not having a scorecard, not knowing who is playing, not having internet connection .

They have developed a technique to get through a commentary session which is mainly bluff and bluster.

That's why they're so popular - they blend in with the club...sorry VP stole your line.

Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Valentines Park on June 29, 2015, 05:03:54 PM
sorry VP stole your line.

Happy for you to take up the slack.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Mog on June 29, 2015, 08:21:30 PM
i didn't listen on the 23rd but caught a bit of the commentary on the 22nd and thought the 2 guys were superb, although one did have to keep reminding the other they were commentating on a game and the listeners might like an update, saying that, all the banter etc did make the commentary very good.

Catch a fair bit of commentary on away games and think Dick and Paul are awful. They troop out the same stories/ prejudices over and over again. They glorifying in not having a scorecard, not knowing who is playing, not having internet connection .

They have developed a technique to get through a commentary session which is mainly bluff and bluster. Listen to county matches on 5 live extra and you'll find intelligent, informed, humorous and professional commentaries.

They are? Bit too critical for your liking are they? Have you any idea how difficult it is to say fresh things, covering the meandering county cricket program? Perhaps ECCC can appoint their own non-critical commentary team - following the deference of their own interviewer....who always come up with the positives!?  ;)
Who's that David......? who seems to commentate on T20 (BBC Essex) - now he really hasn't got a clue. Too busy bragging about where he's been on holiday - and usually calls the play erroneously. Has an annoying habit of sucking in breath through his clenched teeth at the end of each sentence too!
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: sufcessex on June 30, 2015, 08:25:04 AM
They have developed a technique to get through a commentary session which is mainly bluff and bluster. Listen to county matches on 5 live extra and you'll find intelligent, informed, humorous and professional commentaries.

Everytime i put 5 live extra on its always Yorkshire they are commentating on.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Andy on June 30, 2015, 10:56:11 AM
Not sure Quincy is unhappy with their 'criticality' - they tend to err on the other side. However, yes it isn't easy to commentate on CC matches unless we are batting on the first morning because play unfolds over quite a long period of time.

Don't forget TMS have more commentators, they tend to rotate their overseas - indeed the BBC Essex commentary is generally better when they have AN Other from the other county Ernie Bevan from Glammy (?!?) etc. In this way we get more insights about the opposition's form as well as the impression they have of our team. Perhaps being together as regularly as Nick, Dick, David & Paul are it must be difficult to think of fresh things to say when the over rate slackens.


I fear that there are those who'd prefer to get rid of this coverage and spend it on minor celebs presenting drivel or yet another blasted country music programme...
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: sufcessex on July 01, 2015, 10:38:12 AM
Listening today at work before attending tomorrow.  The BBC team are very critical of both us and Kent for putting Australia in on a batting friendly wicket, saying we've done it just to ensure a fourth day.  Also critical of us resting Napier and Masters.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Mick on July 01, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
Listening today at work before attending tomorrow.  The BBC team are very critical of both us and Kent for putting Australia in on a batting friendly wicket, saying we've done it just to ensure a fourth day.  Also critical of us resting Napier and Masters.

It was pre-agreed, apparently, in both cases.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: sufcessex on July 01, 2015, 11:29:40 AM
Listening today at work before attending tomorrow.  The BBC team are very critical of both us and Kent for putting Australia in on a batting friendly wicket, saying we've done it just to ensure a fourth day.  Also critical of us resting Napier and Masters.

It was pre-agreed, apparently, in both cases.

They've been very critical of both counties and the ECB, Adam Gilchrist is one of co-commentators and he was saying how Sheffield Shield teams would do all they can to beat visiting countries regardless and mentioned a team beating India in 2 days.  It was mentioned that in this country we love the visiting sides playing our county sides and just let them enjoy the games rather than trying to beat them.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Valentines Park on July 01, 2015, 11:38:55 AM
It was mentioned that in this country we love the visiting sides playing our county sides and just let them enjoy the games rather than trying to beat them.

Yorks might be able to give the Aussies a game but realistically who else could?
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Andy on July 01, 2015, 12:46:58 PM
This is why I wouldn't be against us brining in the likes of Liam Dawson to even things up a bit.

Isn't it ironic that the much maligned Tom Moore is the most successful bowler thus far???
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: squarelegumpire on July 01, 2015, 12:50:28 PM
Listening today at work before attending tomorrow.  The BBC team are very critical of both us and Kent for putting Australia in on a batting friendly wicket, saying we've done it just to ensure a fourth day.  Also critical of us resting Napier and Masters.

It was pre-agreed, apparently, in both cases.

They've been very critical of both counties and the ECB, Adam Gilchrist is one of co-commentators and he was saying how Sheffield Shield teams would do all they can to beat visiting countries regardless and mentioned a team beating India in 2 days.  It was mentioned that in this country we love the visiting sides playing our county sides and just let them enjoy the games rather than trying to beat them.

Obviously wasn't at Chelmsford in 2003, then!
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: afinetickletoleg on July 01, 2015, 06:44:41 PM
Listening today at work before attending tomorrow.  The BBC team are very critical of both us and Kent for putting Australia in on a batting friendly wicket, saying we've done it just to ensure a fourth day.  Also critical of us resting Napier and Masters.

It was pre-agreed, apparently, in both cases.

They've been very critical of both counties and the ECB, Adam Gilchrist is one of co-commentators and he was saying how Sheffield Shield teams would do all they can to beat visiting countries regardless and mentioned a team beating India in 2 days.  It was mentioned that in this country we love the visiting sides playing our county sides and just let them enjoy the games rather than trying to beat them.

There is a difference in pre-agreeing to let them bat first if that is what they wish to do, I imagine their plan would be to bat once and bowl the opposition out twice to give their attack some practice, and actually trying to beat them once the game is underway.

Teams accommodated all sorts of strange requests when England toured under Duncan Fletcher.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Andy on July 01, 2015, 07:09:44 PM
They've been very critical of both counties and the ECB, Adam Gilchrist is one of co-commentators and he was saying how Sheffield Shield teams would do all they can to beat visiting countries regardless and mentioned a team beating India in 2 days.  It was mentioned that in this country we love the visiting sides playing our county sides and just let them enjoy the games rather than trying to beat them.

Teams accommodated all sorts of strange requests when England toured under Duncan Fletcher.[/quote]

Indeed? I always thought DF was a dour guy - did he secretly supply coke to Dazzler Gough and sanatogen to Andy Caddick?

That wasn't Adam Gilchrist - that was another Adam from Australia. Probably could've destroyed our attack today.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Valentines Park on July 01, 2015, 07:28:25 PM
I reckon he demanded Biltong be flown in for the South African contingent.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: Andy on July 01, 2015, 08:41:18 PM
I reckon he demanded Biltong be flown in for the South African contingent.

Isn't that dried beef? Or is it 'Special Stuff'?
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: vim on July 12, 2015, 10:17:27 AM
At present I am getting no on line coverage, although I can listen to other games.

I was not planning to visit the ground for this match. I could do so later today to discuss this latest technical breakdown. Of course I will not appreciate who else will be listening to the conversation or whether my language should be moderated.

By the way some of the commentary is childish and unprofessional.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: vim on July 12, 2015, 10:20:21 AM
Since writing the above the on line commentary has started working.

That showed them, or did it.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: nat on July 12, 2015, 02:39:28 PM
At present I am getting no on line coverage, although I can listen to other games.

I was not planning to visit the ground for this match. I could do so later today to discuss this latest technical breakdown. Of course I will not appreciate who else will be listening to the conversation or whether my language should be moderated.

By the way some of the commentary is childish and unprofessional.

Be thankful for small mercies then.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: vim on July 12, 2015, 03:38:21 PM
The on line service has gone down again after tea.

There is the thought that a large number of people at the BBC will be getting the golden order of the boot in the near future to make you feel better.
Title: Re: BBC Essex commentary yesterday (23 June)
Post by: vim on July 12, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
It is back again.

What power i have.