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Cricket => Official Q&A => Topic started by: stickyboy on September 12, 2013, 12:51:13 PM
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Will be interesting to see what prices if will be for next year. The 2013 package was £155 for an adult.
In 2014 in comparison the differences will be:
the 4 day game against England will be replaced by a 1 day game v Sri Lanka.
6 YB40 games will be replaced by 4 x 50 over games
Unless you are a regular watcher of Championship Cricket the membership is not becoming great value as it used to be, with hardly any one day cricket (T20 is not included of course)
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Quite agree sticky boy, Meteor way availability also comes into the equation. With only four 50 games unless placed at weekends, looks like poor value if increased next time round.
Although do not expect a England game every year, but took a huge chunk out of the membership for those who could not regularly attended through the season .
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I've thought for a while that we don't seem to get many minor tour games (eg Bangladesh A etc) or Under 19 games. I've always thought it would be an idea to bid for one of these types of fixtures and tack it onto Colchester to mae a longer festival.
I'd be interested to know if Colchester is planned for mid to late August. Mrs Slogger is making noises about the commonwealth games and I'd hate to miss Castle Park!
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I've thought for a while that we don't seem to get many minor tour games (eg Bangladesh A etc) or Under 19 games.
Although not exactly a minor tour game, we are due to play Sri Lanka in a day-night 50 over match during May.
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I'm very much looking forward to the release of next year's membership figures and deals.
Lets face it, we gave them about 10 pages of theory of how to change this up. For me, still being in employ (well, most of the time), I haven't really had value for the last few seasons.
There really does need to be some kind of "working members ticket" for say £75 and then you pay a fiver on the day if you want to attend, but still get use of the pavilion.
I was seriously thinking of getting the life membership in the next year or so, given my fiftieth year is soon upon me. There's a major decrease in cost from being 49 to 50!
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Thanks for post, very soon we will be announcing 2014 Membership rates this will include Life Membership. This, for the first time, will allow you to purchase based on your exact age e.g. the rate of a 49 year old will only be slightly more expensive that a 50 year old rather than the current jumps. Hope that makes sense?
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It does, is that you Danny?
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There's a major decrease in cost from being 49 to 50!
Also, Blocky, if you're ever unfortune enough to get done for a bit of 'Cyril Lord,' being 50 or over would entitle you to membership of a single 'hut' at that most veritable of HM's institutions, Ford open prison. ;D
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Voice of experience, diatribe?
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Voice of experience, diatribe?
Alas not, dear boy, Ford open prison is restricted to the confines of solicitors, bankers, accountants, directors, policemen et al, The uneducated, underpriviliged proletariat such as my goodself would be consigned to far less salubrious surroundings, ie. Belmarsh, Wandsworth, Wayland etc.
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Thanks for post, very soon we will be announcing 2014 Membership rates this will include Life Membership. This, for the first time, will allow you to purchase based on your exact age e.g. the rate of a 49 year old will only be slightly more expensive that a 50 year old rather than the current jumps. Hope that makes sense?
OK Starfish, but when do we get hit with the bad stuff.
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I have just received my membership renewal form, and the letter starts with "Dear prospective member", have they a crystal ball that tells them how unhappy we are with the membership deal, and cannot address us as current members.
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This was an admin error on a small amount of letters, apologies for that, thanks for your support, any queries please shout, thanks, Danny
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I have just received my membership renewal form, and the letter starts with "Dear prospective member", have they a crystal ball that tells them how unhappy we are with the membership deal, and cannot address us as current members.
Yet another (albeit small) error from the admin staff. Someone needs to get a grip.
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An error yes we admit, thanks
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Yet another (albeit small) error from the admin staff.
Hmm ... maybe Larry's P45 has got lost in the post.
We can but hope.
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Thanks for post, very soon we will be announcing 2014 Membership rates this will include Life Membership. This, for the first time, will allow you to purchase based on your exact age e.g. the rate of a 49 year old will only be slightly more expensive that a 50 year old rather than the current jumps. Hope that makes sense?
The higher membership rates for less cricket have now been published, but alas the ECB can't agree with Sky the start times for the 50 over matches. One more reason to not rush to renew membership.
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Thanks for post, very soon we will be announcing 2014 Membership rates this will include Life Membership. This, for the first time, will allow you to purchase based on your exact age e.g. the rate of a 49 year old will only be slightly more expensive that a 50 year old rather than the current jumps. Hope that makes sense?
The higher membership rates for less cricket have now been published, but alas the ECB can't agree with Sky the start times for the 50 over matches. One more reason to not rush to renew membership.
More evidence that the ECB have given up on the county game as a spectator sport. Really sad when you think back to the 1980s - county cricket's heyday.
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Can't totally blame the ECB. The 1980s was a heyday in terms of county cricket as a spectacle, but unsustainable because I) the real money comes from international cricket (don't assume all county grounds were as full as Chelmsford at the time) ii) Once the other countries (especially India) grabbed political control of the game, the money talks.
Let's face it, if players like JK and Ray East were given long runs in the England team, and/or injury robbed us of these key players, we wouldn't look back on the 80s with such nostalgia...
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Let's face it, if players like JK and Ray East were given long runs in the England team, and/or injury robbed us of these key players, we wouldn't look back on the 80s with such nostalgia...
Although back then, before central contracts, England international players played far more regularly for their counties, so would only generally be absent when the (fewer) tests or ODIs were actually being played. Which meant you could still feel that they were part of the county set-up in a far more meaningful sense.
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Let's face it, if players like JK and Ray East were given long runs in the England team, and/or injury robbed us of these key players, we wouldn't look back on the 80s with such nostalgia...
Although back then, before central contracts, England international players played far more regularly for their counties, so would only generally be absent when the (fewer) tests or ODIs were actually being played. Which meant you could still feel that they were part of the county set-up in a far more meaningful sense.
Agreed, but one of the main reasons we won in 1979, rather than say 1977 or 1978 was that the selectors ludicrously decided that Mike Hendrick was better than JK and that Gooch had got through that tough patch when he contemplated retiring from the game.
The whole point is that the set up at the time, both the absence of central contracts and the overlooking of ECCC players, meant that we prospered. Hence the nostalgic desire to return to 3 day matches, exhausted England players turning out for their counties etc.
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Agreed, but one of the main reasons we won in 1979, rather than say 1977 or 1978 was that the selectors ludicrously decided that Mike Hendrick was better than JK and that Gooch had got through that tough patch when he contemplated retiring from the game.
The whole point is that the set up at the time, both the absence of central contracts and the overlooking of ECCC players, meant that we prospered. Hence the nostalgic desire to return to 3 day matches, exhausted England players turning out for their counties etc.
Agree in many ways, although the "exhaustion" of international players nowadays, I reckon, is far more down to the endless round of meaningless one-day internationals, which hadn't really taken hold back in those days. Turning out for your county in a CC game was probably less demanding.
But one of the real problems of the current central-contracting situation is that it's led to a real fracture between the international game and the county set-up, which was closer when international players were, in a more meaningful sense, still very much part of their county team. I find it hard, to be honest, to think of Cook as an Essex player now. Whereas Fletch or Gooch, for example, very much were, even when also captaining England.
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I have just received my membership renewal form, and the letter starts with "Dear prospective member", have they a crystal ball that tells them how unhappy we are with the membership deal, and cannot address us as current members.
On a positive note, I have already received a 'damage limitation' apology letter from Danny M.
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Essex wants around £200 a year for membership and T20 entrance, yet Sussex are offering all one day matches YB50's and T20 membership for £120, likewise for Middlesex its £120 and Kent £150.
If Essex done similar I would jump at the chance, as due to commitments at home I cannot easily attend for 4 whole days, so the one day matches are acceptable. Therefore I am in two minds about renewing membership, as other counties seem to want to help their members, unlike Essex.
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Essex wants around £200 a year for membership and T20 entrance, yet Sussex are offering all one day matches YB50's and T20 membership for £120...
Really? That's fantastic value. I might have to join Sussex CCC when I retire to Eastbourne with the other 'wrinklies'.
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Essex wants around £200 a year for membership and T20 entrance, yet Sussex are offering all one day matches YB50's and T20 membership for £120, likewise for Middlesex its £120 and Kent £150.
If Essex done similar I would jump at the chance, as due to commitments at home I cannot easily attend for 4 whole days, so the one day matches are acceptable. Therefore I am in two minds about renewing membership, as other counties seem to want to help their members, unlike Essex.
Thanks for post, whilst we are not the cheapest the amount quoted for Sussex is in fact more than ours, sorry if I have read that well. Kind regards, Danny
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Thanks for post, whilst we are not the cheapest the amount quoted for Sussex is in fact more than ours, sorry if I have read that well. Kind regards, Danny
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Sussex Shark membership that includes all one day matches is £120, Essex only offer everything for about £200. Check it on their magnificent website.
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Yes, there website is good, we have a number of improvements rolling out in coming weeks
To clarify for others (if needed) their £120 Membership does not include LV= games
Thanks
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Yes, there website is good, we have a number of improvements rolling out in coming weeks
To clarify for others (if needed) their £120 Membership does not include LV= games
Thanks
I previously mentioned that it was for all one day games only, and said if Essex had done the same I would have snapped it up. But Essex won't entertain helping members.
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Thanks for post
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On a infrequent foray to the official ECCC website, I notice that one of the news articles states that; "Become a Member & Save Over £500!"
Intrigued as to how I have so far missed such an outstanding opportunity, I clicked the full story.
I've read the piece, carefully, but can find no break down and/or specific examples of how my theoretical £150 membership fee will save me over three times as much. There is, of course, the obvious; entry to all LV CC matches, et al. Oh, and how members can purchase hot drinks for £1! ;)
Now, I have no background or expertise in marketing, but I would have considered an asterisk after the £500 in the headline, linking to a set of parameters explaining just how that amount could possibly be gained back.
I fully recognise the Club in their deeds and (in)action expect people to believe every word of their tightly controlled corporate and Club output, but seriously a break-down of the claimed savings may provide some clarity.
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Thanks for pointing out, this is an error when it was loaded, we will amend ASAP, thanks
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Thanks for pointing out, this is an error when it was loaded, we will amend ASAP, thanks
Ahh another error. Becoming a bit of a habit.
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At least Danny, sorry Starfish, acknowledges any perceived errors & does something about them, a rarity at Essex.
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At least Danny, sorry Starfish, acknowledges any perceived errors & does something about them, a rarity at Essex.
Yes but there are too many errors...indicative of the organisation I fear. A lack of care and attention. It doesn't take much to proof read a document before sending it out.
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Yes but there are too many errors...indicative of the organisation I fear. A lack of care and attention. It doesn't take much to proof read a document before sending it out.
Someone has to be able to read!
I can only think that the savings are in the voucher book and you need to sell three houses for the solicitors discounts, re-tyre your car four times and spend six months getting your hair done.
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The saving comes from 8 LV= games! Essex. V Sri Lanka, NatWest T20 Blast discounted discounts, Royal London One Day Cup, England Women game.
Plus 10% exclusive retail discount
FREE yearbook! FREE pin badge, FREE car sticker, direct debit discounts
Not to mention voucher book, exclusive discounts, offers and prize draws.
We are doing all we can to add value
We always want to hear ways we can add more bailey thanks for your time, Danny
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I can only think that the savings are in the voucher book and you need to sell three houses for the solicitors discounts, re-tyre your car four times and spend six months getting your hair done.
We've already got a frontrunner for post of the year.
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I can only think that the savings are in the voucher book and you need to sell three houses for the solicitors discounts, re-tyre your car four times and spend six months getting your hair done.
We've already got a frontrunner for post of the year.
Agreed very good. However he did forget to mention the car sticker, pin badge, yearbook...cuddly toy, fondue set...
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Also if a car driver, free parking is also a bonus.
I save £100+ per year by getting the free membership parking. (based on £5 per day).
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Also if a car driver, free parking is also a bonus.
I save £100+ per year by getting the free membership parking. (based on £5 per day).
Agreed that inclusive car parking is very worthwhile. How many other counties include car parking in their membership fee?
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How many other counties include car parking in their membership fee?
Kent do.
Or at least they did until they paved over the St Lawrence with flats.
Sound familiar?
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How many other counties include car parking in their membership fee?
Kent do.
Or at least they did until they paved over the St Lawrence with flats.
Sound familiar?
Exactly, though the parking next door is being made available, parking spaces within the ECG are being taken over by the erection of luxury apartments next season? And to be honest, the parking spaces were usually only available for those arriving about an hour earlier than the start of play , or in the case of disabled parking sometimes earlier when Sky takes over most spaces or - as happened on the first day of the England game - a disabled parking space was reserved for the Mayor of Chelmsford. But there again perhaps what with wearing all that bling (Chains of Office) it must be extremely difficult for an otherwise able-bodied person to walk 50 yards or so.
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How many other counties include car parking in their membership fee?
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Kent do.
Or at least they did until they paved over the St Lawrence with flats.
Sound familiar?
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Exactly, though the parking next door is being made available, parking spaces within the ECG are being taken over by the erection of luxury apartments next season? And to be honest, the parking spaces were usually only available for those arriving about an hour earlier than the start of play , or in the case of disabled parking sometimes earlier when Sky takes over most spaces or - as happened on the first day of the England game - a disabled parking space was reserved for the Mayor of Chelmsford. But there again perhaps what with wearing all that bling (Chains of Office) it must be extremely difficult for an otherwise able-bodied person to walk 50 yards or so.
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Kent don't at Tunbridge Wells, they charged £5 for the privilege of parking in an unsupervised field when I went down there to watch us the other year.
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Kent don't at Tunbridge Wells, they charged £5 for the privilege of parking in an unsupervised field when I went down there to watch us the other year.
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Shussh!
Don't let the Essex Committee know - it will give them ideas!
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...to be honest, the parking spaces were usually only available for those arriving about an hour earlier than the start of play , or in the case of disabled parking sometimes earlier when Sky takes over most spaces ...
Given the lack of spaces at Chelmsford, the "free parking" only has any real significance at Colchester, even (or perhaps especially) for disabled people. One of the various reasons why I've now cancelled my membership for 2014.
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On the more general topic of Membership, I've just noticed that my sub due on 31 December doesn't appear to have been taken from my account by direct debit as it should have been. I was prompted to check by another member who said he'd had the same experience. Has anyone else noticed this? or are the club trying to tell me something?
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On parking I think the club should look to deploy Meteor Way on Championship Sundays next year. Public transport isn't as good on a Sunday (engineering works on the trains and depleted bus services) and it would make sense to encourage people to attend the first day of a game which traditionally has better crowds. Personally I'd probably look to bring my son after lunch (he plays most Sunday mornings) and nipping up to Chelmsford for a few hours from Hockley by car would be much better than trying to do it by train.
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On parking I think the club should look to deploy Meteor Way on Championship Sundays next year. Public transport isn't as good on a Sunday (engineering works on the trains and depleted bus services) and it would make sense to encourage people to attend the first day of a game which traditionally has better crowds. Personally I'd probably look to bring my son after lunch (he plays most Sunday mornings) and nipping up to Chelmsford for a few hours from Hockley by car would be much better than trying to do it by train.
Far better to keep Meteor Way for weekdays when the public car parks are busy and street parking not allowed. Sundays - you can park in the street.
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Have the membership cards and pack been sent out yet?
I paid on 2/1/14, and have heard nothing since.
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Thanks for post
Please can I ask you to emal your details to questions@essexcricket.org.uk or call tomorrow morning on 01245 254010 and we will look into this for you.
Thanks. Danny
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Why are Life members still waiting or is it just me??
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I'm a lifer and haven'T had my card either
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Thanks for posts,
These are being sent this coming week, slightly later than planned. Thanks for patience, Danny
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Well I'm underwhelmed by the contents of my envelope.
A badge - good.
A yearbook - but why does the cover have dents all over it?
A letter - promising a voucher book - why not just send it?
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Why no car sticker? My subs were paid 20+ years ago so clearly before the end of December 2013!
Life members should receive at least as much as members paying by Direct Debit if not more ...
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Thanks for post,
Please can you confirm your name / number via a personal message if needed so we can send your sticker.
Happy to replace yearbook if required. Voucher books not quite ready yet, this will be available to collect in April.
Thanks, Danny
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Danny - life membership arrived this morning - thanks
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Danny - surely ALL life members should get the sticker, not just me :D
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evening,
If a Life Member would like to collect their car sticker (subject to availability) please visit reception. Thanks, Danny