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Off-Topic => In The Hut => Topic started by: Slogger on March 14, 2015, 09:10:17 AM

Title: Debt
Post by: Slogger on March 14, 2015, 09:10:17 AM
This is a salutary story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-31880315

It doesn't seem to be a very level playing field for other counties if this happens
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: nat on March 14, 2015, 09:48:34 AM
This is a salutary story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-31880315

It doesn't seem to be a very level playing field for other counties if this happens

Seems to be fashionable these days, run up a big debt and then plead poverty.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Andy on March 14, 2015, 02:40:02 PM
This is not unusal - and why there's suddenly so much interest in Franchises. ECB really screwed up a decade ago: short term money bringing long term debt.  Kent had to sell their ground back to the KCC and we all know what's keeping Yorkshire afloat. The likes of Durham and Glamorgan basically only were able to get Test status because they got 'regional aid'.

I wondered whether ECCC realised this themselves at the time: hence they didn't go too fast with the ground redevelopments - or whether that was crediting East et al with too much intelligence... However, ECCC's problems predate 2005.

Sadly, rather than meaning we've avoided the problems of these more profilgate clubs, the latter may end up consigning ECCC to non-first class status.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Andy on March 14, 2015, 02:41:06 PM
However, I don't know whether Danny & Marketing have seen what LCCC are doing to drum up some support...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/31869123
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: squarelegumpire on March 14, 2015, 02:54:02 PM
However, I don't know whether Danny & Marketing have seen what LCCC are doing to drum up some support...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/31869123

Essex already contacts “members" who haven’t re-signed to find out the reasons. Inability to attend through illnes or worse is usually the reason, apparently.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Valentines Park on March 14, 2015, 06:18:54 PM
I'm sick of Larry does that count ?
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Slogger on March 14, 2015, 07:43:03 PM
Having thought about it the real temerity of this is the expectation that over £4m of public money will be written off. Shocking at a time when local govt budgets have been cut so much
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Andy on March 16, 2015, 03:40:09 PM
However, I don't know whether Danny & Marketing have seen what LCCC are doing to drum up some support...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/31869123

Essex already contacts “members" who haven’t re-signed to find out the reasons. Inability to attend through illnes or worse is usually the reason, apparently.

Ahhh, but Lanky get their players to drum up support.  Just imagine a call at 2:30am from Monty asking if you'd want to take up the opportunity of taking out membership again this year...
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Valentines Park on March 16, 2015, 05:02:49 PM
In polite terms would that be classed as extracting the urine?   
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Andy on March 17, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
In polite terms would that be classed as extracting the urine?

Don't know.  Certainly he would 'be your best mate'. Be careful if he asks you whether you like heights.

I'd hope Larry himself would phone you up.  Especially if it were recorded.  :P
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Valentines Park on March 17, 2015, 01:15:56 PM
PPI chancers would be more welcome than him blathering on about the Championship being a priority when IPL commitments allow.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: firehazard on March 17, 2015, 01:25:06 PM
PPI chancers would be more welcome than him blathering on about the Championship being a priority when IPL commitments allow.

If only PPI stood for Poor Performance Insurance, you might be able to make a claim on that.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Valentines Park on March 17, 2015, 01:49:30 PM
Trouble is one man's poor performance is another man's coaching gig for life.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Andy on March 17, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
PPI chancers would be more welcome than him blathering on about the Championship being a priority when IPL commitments allow.

If only PPI stood for Poor Performance Insurance, you might be able to make a claim on that.

I thought the second word was 'poor'?  ;)
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Slogger on March 19, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
I see Cardiff council have now written off £4m. Maybe we should tap up Chelmsford City council for the new pavilion? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-31964175
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Perov on March 19, 2015, 08:28:26 PM
Cardiff Council gets funded via The Welsh Assembly, via The Treasury in London,
(ie Taxpayers money) at £1300 per head more than the English are funded.
Therefore, we Essex taxpayers, may have indirectly helped write off the Glamorgan debt.  ;)

Title: Re: Debt
Post by: nat on March 19, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
I see Cardiff council have now written off £4m. Maybe we should tap up Chelmsford City council for the new pavilion? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-31964175

Disgraceful really. There must have been another way to help GCCC without writing off such a large sum.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: sufcessex on March 20, 2015, 08:04:22 AM
i actually think its good that the council are backing or rather helped out the cricket club, would be nice if Essex County Council would help the cricket club.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: nat on March 20, 2015, 12:24:58 PM
i actually think its good that the council are backing or rather helped out the cricket club, would be nice if Essex County Council would help the cricket club.

By 'council' you mean the tax payers?! A debt is a debt ... unless you're Greece that is.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: sufcessex on March 20, 2015, 12:45:43 PM
i actually think its good that the council are backing or rather helped out the cricket club, would be nice if Essex County Council would help the cricket club.

By 'council' you mean the tax payers?! A debt is a debt ... unless you're Greece that is.

The council are the ones holding the purse strings and if they didnt spend it on the cricket it would be wasted somewhere else, so i wouldnt mind the council giving money to Essex at least it was going to somewhere i'm glad to see it go.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Valentines Park on March 20, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
Also if the council paid for these mythical ground developments they might actually happen.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: squarelegumpire on March 20, 2015, 08:24:09 PM
Seem to be further delayed according to the members magazine received today
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Valentines Park on March 21, 2015, 12:28:36 AM
The next solar eclipse will probably come around sooner.
Title: Re: Debt
Post by: Slogger on March 21, 2015, 09:53:22 AM
Well if this franchise cricket comes in there doesn't seem to be much point in doing any more than replacing the out of date pavilion. We won't need a bigger stadium. Maybe we should push for an Essex dominated franchise at Stratford?