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Off-Topic => In The Hut => Topic started by: Valentines Park on September 29, 2014, 11:19:48 AM
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I see Lancashire Members have called a Special General Meeting.
Odd that as by Quincy standards they would have had a good season.
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I see Lancashire Members have called a Special General Meeting.
Odd that as by Quincy standards they would have had a good season.
Does anyone know how they did it? The number of signatures required etc.
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400 signatures apparently.
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400 signatures apparently.
It seems that you know how many to collect so crack on.
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The EGM merchants had all season to collect signatures, they did nothing . No petitions, no boycotts, nothing more than the odd mumbling of discontent in the river stand.
Why don't you accept your in a minority of one. Stop send the same post 5 times a day (at least for the winter).
You could even come and watch some cricket next year.
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Your pal Grayson currently has a 50% approval rating so I'm hardly in a minority.
You are right about one thing though
Failure next season needs to be swiftly addressed.
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Quincy’s right. Those supporting the idea of an EGM couldn’t muster enough support. Part of the problem was, of course, on exactly what grounds would an EGM be called, and what would it expect to do. It is to be hoped that the club will continue with the Members Forum’s ...... ought to be one within the next 6 weeks if past seasons are any guide.
That doesn’t mean I for one am content with either our achievements this year or the way members are kept informed. One did get Danny in particular giving explanations on the old forum and sometimes players, particularly Tony P when he was with us, posted. The Facebook page isn’t very informative either. It seems rare that any questions are answered!
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I learnt may many yrs. ago that one is wasting one's time attempting to mount a rebellion, people are weak, period. One only has to look back at the 2000 fuel tax protests where after a couple of days, the proletariat were complaining they couldn't drive their kids a hundred yards down the road to school, they couldn't get home from work in time to watch their TV soaps etc. etc.
One has to wonder how Londoners survived the Luftwaffe blitz in 1940, I guess they were a different breed in those times. Interestingly, even with the threat of an iminent invasion, the British Gov. still weren't prepared to arm the British people, I guess the ruling elite would have preferred to be under the cosh of the jackbooted nazis than trust arming their own people which is hardly surprising considering most of them were cpllaborators anyway, not least Lord Beaverbrook's Daily Mail. Nothing ever really changes.
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Mr D, while I agree that were myths about the stiff-upper-lipped-edness of the British in 1940, if the Government wasn’t prepared to arm the public, who were the Home Guard.
I can promise you they were ordinary men, just as in Dad’s Army.
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Mr D, while I agree that were myths about the stiff-upper-lipped-edness of the British in 1940, if the Government wasn’t prepared to arm the public, who were the Home Guard.
Although I believe you are a tad older than my goodself, Square and may have just been old enough to remember the tail end of the war years, from the documentaries I have watched regarding the Home Guard, they were square bashing and training with pitchforks, hardly a deterrent to the German storm troopers they were likely to encounter in the event of an invasion.
Further, according to the documentaries, the Home Guard were never designed to be a realistic line of defence, but merely a moral booster. I think you will find that even at the height of an invasion threat, the British police would still have been arresting private citizens for offences regarding the illegal possession of firearms. The ruling elite were very concerned after the Russian revolution and the fate of the Romanoffs, particularly as at the time after WW1, the country was awash with weapons and young men with military training. That coincided with the beginning of draconian legislation restricting the private ownership of firearms which was further ratcheted up piecemeal fashion until the total ban under the 1998 Firearms act.
The very first act that any dictatorship engages in when invading a country is to confiscate its citizen's weapons, most notably, Adolf Hitler, after all, its far easier to subjugate a dumbed down and unarmed nation than an educated and armed one. Do you think its a coincidence that Britain's educational standards have slipped since the post war golden era of education which led to public awareness and the protests of the 1960's and 70's. Now all the proletariat care about are whose going to win Big Brother, the availability of cheap booze, celebrity culture etc. etc and lest we forget, the instigation of 'Get rid of Grayson' campaigns. ;)
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I learnt may many yrs. ago that one is wasting one's time attempting to mount a rebellion, people are weak, period. One only has to look back at the 2000 fuel tax protests where after a couple of days, the proletariat were complaining they couldn't drive their kids a hundred yards down the road to school, they couldn't get home from work in time to watch their TV soaps etc. etc.
One has to wonder how Londoners survived the Luftwaffe blitz in 1940, I guess they were a different breed in those times. Interestingly, even with the threat of an iminent invasion, the British Gov. still weren't prepared to arm the British people, I guess the ruling elite would have preferred to be under the cosh of the jackbooted nazis than trust arming their own people which is hardly surprising considering most of them were cpllaborators anyway, not least Lord Beaverbrook's Daily Mail. Nothing ever really changes.
The Poll Tax rioters in 1990 were quite effective. To bring this back on-topic, this was followed the election of N R Hilliard to the committee.
You win some, you lose some.
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The Poll Tax rioters in 1990 were quite effective. To bring this back on-topic, this was followed the election of N R Hilliard to the committee.
You win some, you lose some.
Indeed the Poll Tax riots were effective in bringing to an end the Poll Tax, but it was replaced by an equally penalising Council Tax. Same tax, different name, a bit like the Royal Mail and Consignia.
If I remember correctly, my Poll Tax was around a tenner a wk. whereas my Council Tax is pushing £40 per wk. and I no longer get free bin liners either. The only additional services provided are a million, trillion extra road signs blotting the landscape. ::)
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My recollection, Diatribe, is that the HG were armed. I seem to recall them guarding a “doodlebug” that a combined force of them and the police brought round to show the public what one looked like close up. Memory may, of course, play tricks.
I can’t recall pre-war but in the 50’s any threat of Communist insurrection was industrial. I doubt anyone expected to be murdered in their beds or chased by a howling mob.
Was there a greater sense of being able to break through glass ceilings in the 50’s than today; I don’t think so. Grammar school education was probably “better” ie gave more opportunities to the really bright than many comprehensives but whether overall the population was better educated than today I doubt. If one didn’t pass the 11+ many opportunities were, effectively, closed unless one was very determined.
I recently had occasion to compare my 50’s experience of studies for GCE German exams with an acquaintance who took the equivalent around 25 years ago. He seemed to have a “better" exam, including what seemed to me some very demanding coursework!
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[Explanatory edit by moderator: Diatribe said (in a post since deleted owing to the inclusion of an offensive term and an embedded video which breached copyright restrictions):] "As for mathematics, one would be fortunate to find anyone born after circa 1975 who could even manage the basic 12 x's multiplication table without the aid of a calculator"
Very wrong I'm pleased to say. Year 4 (age 8/9) are expected to know table to 12 x 12 and mental maths skills are far better than twenty/thirty years ago. By the way, these skills are numeracy not mathematics which is about solving problems.
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Watkinson resigns ... perhaps we could offer them a replacement?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/29510158
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Mr D, while I agree that were myths about the stiff-upper-lipped-edness of the British in 1940, if the Government wasn’t prepared to arm the public, who were the Home Guard.
Although I believe you are a tad older than my goodself, Square and may have just been old enough to remember the tail end of the war years, from the documentaries I have watched regarding the Home Guard, they were square bashing and training with pitchforks, hardly a deterrent to the German storm troopers they were likely to encounter in the event of an invasion.
Further, according to the documentaries, the Home Guard were never designed to be a realistic line of defence, but merely a moral booster. I think you will find that even at the height of an invasion threat, the British police would still have been arresting private citizens for offences regarding the illegal possession of firearms. The ruling elite were very concerned after the Russian revolution and the fate of the Romanoffs, particularly as at the time after WW1, the country was awash with weapons and young men with military training. That coincided with the beginning of draconian legislation restricting the private ownership of firearms which was further ratcheted up piecemeal fashion until the total ban under the 1998 Firearms act.
The very first act that any dictatorship engages in when invading a country is to confiscate its citizen's weapons, most notably, Adolf Hitler, after all, its far easier to subjugate a dumbed down and unarmed nation than an educated and armed one. Do you think its a coincidence that Britain's educational standards have slipped since the post war golden era of education which led to public awareness and the protests of the 1960's and 70's. Now all the proletariat care about are whose going to win Big Brother, the availability of cheap booze, celebrity culture etc. etc and lest we forget, the instigation of 'Get rid of Grayson' campaigns. ;)
Not sure where you're getting that from old chap. There were thousands of veteran soldiers from WW1 in the HG and I'd say they were very much the last line of defence before the Special forces got active in the event of an invasion. They are still finding the old " special commando" bunkers full of weapons and expolsive, and from my time in the Army, it was known that there were hundreds un-recovered after the war, deliberately it was thought, although the majority of the old boys are dead now so they will stay un-recovered.
In terms of arming the population, the vast majority are so messed up, who would want them wandering around with a loaded weapon, however, we've got about 2 million people still alive with Military service, with around 500,000 still on a reserve list. Myself included.
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Blimey! Some people are madder than I thought. Hope they've dug their backyard shelter with the required stock of bottled water and tins of baked beans...
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Are any of these arms caches situated near the Fortress? ;)
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Are any of these arms caches situated near the Fortress? ;)
Not unless the buns served at the bar count as WMD's????
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Grayson is safe in his bunker for the time being then.
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Are any of these arms caches situated near the Fortress? ;)
dunno mate, was the county ground there before the war? could be!!!!
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Blimey! Some people are madder than I thought. Hope they've dug their backyard shelter with the required stock of bottled water and tins of baked beans...
Nuclear bunker mate... ;)