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Title: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: bwildered on August 02, 2014, 04:05:48 PM
Next test debutant will become number 666 on the list .
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Valentines Park on August 03, 2014, 09:47:56 AM
Cap Northeast.

He's the spawn of Satan.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Diatribe on August 03, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Robson's days are numbered and that it won't be long before he's replaced by either Lyth or Lees of Yorks. certainly for the forthcoming tour of the Caribbean.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: IanS on August 03, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Robson's days are numbered and that it won't be long before he's replaced by either Lyth or Lees of Yorks. certainly for the forthcoming tour of the Caribbean.

England are slow to discard players these days, unless you're a fast bowler. 1 x 100 and 1 x 50 in his first 9 innings is enough to keep him in the team for this series. He will have to bat very poorly in the last two Tests to jeopardise his position. But even if he does, and England win the series, I'd expect him to remain - they do like to keep a winning team together.

The WI tour is 8 months away, but before then we have a plethora of ODIs, so Robson can sit back and watch his rivals make a mess of things.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: galboy on August 04, 2014, 10:10:49 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Robson's days are numbered and that it won't be long before he's replaced by either Lyth or Lees of Yorks. certainly for the forthcoming tour of the Caribbean.

England are slow to discard players these days, unless you're a fast bowler. 1 x 100 and 1 x 50 in his first 9 innings is enough to keep him in the team for this series. He will have to bat very poorly in the last two Tests to jeopardise his position. But even if he does, and England win the series, I'd expect him to remain - they do like to keep a winning team together.

The WI tour is 8 months away, but before then we have a plethora of ODIs, so Robson can sit back and watch his rivals make a mess of things.

Carberry was soon discarded. I think Robson will certainly be dropped if he doesn't perform in the next two tests. Get Hales in, he has proven that the big stage doesnt effect him and he has the game to succeed at Test level.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Diatribe on August 04, 2014, 10:49:58 AM


Carberry was soon discarded. I think Robson will certainly be dropped if he doesn't perform in the next two tests. Get Hales in, he has proven that the big stage doesnt effect him and he has the game to succeed at Test level.

So was Taylor when he failed against Suid Afrika, Galboy. I think Carberry may have been a tad unfortunate in being selected for that ill fated tour, even so, I suspect he fared better than perhaps Robson would have done.

You appear to be reasonably knowledgeable on the game of cricket, what is your opinion of Lyth and Lees? It used to be stated back in the good ole days that when Yorks. were strong, England were strong.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: firehazard on August 04, 2014, 11:07:46 AM
Next test debutant will become number 666 on the list .

England management kicking themselves that they didn't fiddle the stats to give that one to KP...
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Andy on August 04, 2014, 03:29:47 PM
Next test debutant will become number 666 on the list .

England management kicking themselves that they didn't fiddle the stats to give that one to KP...
Well, the 666 thing is a mistake - coming from a poor translation of a copy of Revelations.

It is actually....616. Start your search now. I don't think that we've had around 50 Test new faces since KP???

Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: bwildered on August 04, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
616 - James Kirtley 2003
626 - KP.                2005
666 - Damion ?
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Andy on August 04, 2014, 04:03:58 PM
616 - James Kirtley 2003
626 - KP.                2005
666 - Damion ?

Didn't Kirtley have a suspect action? His last wicket was KP - they played in the 2007 World Cup together. The KP coincidences are very suspect...
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Valentines Park on August 04, 2014, 04:42:42 PM
Kirtley is the guy behind MKK - the clothing line of the beast ;)
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: firehazard on August 04, 2014, 05:36:11 PM
616 - James Kirtley 2003
626 - KP.                2005
666 - Damion ?

Didn't Kirtley have a suspect action? His last wicket was KP - they played in the 2007 World Cup together. The KP coincidences are very suspect...

Strangely, my daughters went through a stage of referring to Alastair Cook as the devil. I think it may have been to do with facial hair fashion at some time, but I can't entirely remember. One of them still tends to call him "Devs".
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Blocky on August 06, 2014, 07:25:46 AM
Cap Northeast.

He's the spawn of Satan.

Hahaha quality...
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: IanS on August 06, 2014, 11:57:46 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Robson's days are numbered and that it won't be long before he's replaced by either Lyth or Lees of Yorks. certainly for the forthcoming tour of the Caribbean.

England are slow to discard players these days, unless you're a fast bowler. 1 x 100 and 1 x 50 in his first 9 innings is enough to keep him in the team for this series. He will have to bat very poorly in the last two Tests to jeopardise his position. But even if he does, and England win the series, I'd expect him to remain - they do like to keep a winning team together.

The WI tour is 8 months away, but before then we have a plethora of ODIs, so Robson can sit back and watch his rivals make a mess of things.

Carberry was soon discarded. I think Robson will certainly be dropped if he doesn't perform in the next two tests. Get Hales in, he has proven that the big stage doesnt effect him and he has the game to succeed at Test level.

Hales has just got out for 101 down at Taunton. Yes, it's Taunton and it's only Sri Lanka A but he has done the job he was selected for. He has batted far better in the CC this season and, as a RH  attacking batsman, would make a good foil for Cook. But I still expect Robson to be given a good run.

Whoops...Bopara has just followed for 74 in the same over.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: DT on August 06, 2014, 12:01:40 PM
Carberry was ditched far too soon - bar Stokes was our best batsman down under.

Funny how Hales is being talked about now as a test player - only a few months ago he couldn't get in Notts team (which I voiced here at the time I found odd), now Jacques has left he's the talk of the town - but rightly so!!!
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: galboy on August 06, 2014, 09:53:53 PM


Carberry was soon discarded. I think Robson will certainly be dropped if he doesn't perform in the next two tests. Get Hales in, he has proven that the big stage doesnt effect him and he has the game to succeed at Test level.

So was Taylor when he failed against Suid Afrika, Galboy. I think Carberry may have been a tad unfortunate in being selected for that ill fated tour, even so, I suspect he fared better than perhaps Robson would have done.

You appear to be reasonably knowledgeable on the game of cricket, what is your opinion of Lyth and Lees? It used to be stated back in the good ole days that when Yorks. were strong, England were strong.

Ive heard good things about both and both have impressed me on the limited times I have seen them. Lees should definitely play for England one day but I feel that Lyth might just slip through the net.

Hales is the next ship in the dock I feel and I have a feeling that he could be the new Trescothick, ive rated him for years. I called for him to be selected ahead of Root when he got called up but was probably wrong about that. It seems that in that couple of years he has come to the fore and seems to have developed his game somewhat in the longer formats. Players that play straight and hit a long ball have always impressed me hence my liking for Hales.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: bwildered on August 07, 2014, 06:16:05 PM
Robson looks like a rabbit in headlights at present , think the Aussies will have him for breakfast next year.
Lyth and Hales both looked impressive down here the other year. But Chopra might be a outsider for a tour during the winter .
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: IlfordEagle on August 08, 2014, 06:47:02 AM
Lyth has looked good when I have seen him as well, Lees has also been spoken of well, a warning though as his predecessor Joe Sayers was also talked up & has now quit County cricket. Still on Yorks & Rashid appears to have been forgotten which is a shame, I have always been impressed by him too.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: DT on August 08, 2014, 08:34:31 AM
Robson looks like a rabbit in headlights at present , think the Aussies will have him for breakfast next year.
Lyth and Hales both looked impressive down here the other year. But Chopra might be a outsider for a tour during the winter .

To be honest you wonder if Robson wasn't part Australian would he have been selected this summer to open??  I get the feeling not but one can't knock his county form which was deserving of a test call-up so I hope he is given the next test to play and the winter series before chopping and changing again - Carberry didn't do much wrong and was dropped so I guess it's possible Robson could also.

Talking about rabbit in headlights, I just don't see what England see in Chris Woakes as a test player - he looks well out of his depth with his bowling in test cricket and not taken a single wicket in 41 overs - hopefully he proves me wrong and takes some later today/tomorrow when we bowl again but I personally think we're better off with Stokes in this all-rounders position and leave Woakes to play one-day cricket where he is more than useful.  More importantly you can see the reluctance to keep playing Broad - even with his injury problems he's still a force and Jordan seems a different bowler having been stupidly dropped after the Sri Lanka tests - perhaps it's time for Onions again - never let us down??
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: galboy on August 08, 2014, 01:18:08 PM
England wont go back to Onions now, they have moved on from him. Very unlucky for him as in a different era he could have been a mainstay.

I have always liked Woakes as a player but you do have to ask just how much longer England are going to persevere with him. Jordan hasn't really contributed much to our cause this summer either. It appears that these two along with Stokes are vying for two places and they cant seem to nail it down. Personally I would prefer to see a firing Finn in the side and only one of these all rounders. If Ali is going to be the spinner then the batting is packed out anyway.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Valentines Park on August 08, 2014, 03:51:02 PM
Joe Sayers was also talked up

Wasn't that Boycott off the back of a mind numbing 3 hour ton?

Must have reminded him of himself in his prime.  ;D
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: galboy on August 11, 2014, 09:12:59 PM
I have to agree with what Nasser said in Saturday its ridiculous to just jump a number. It would mean that every single players number after 666 would be one out.

You're 666, tough luck im afraid. It could be worse you could be working on a motorway digging up the road.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Diatribe on August 12, 2014, 10:41:01 AM
It could be worse you could be working on a motorway digging up the road.

I'd have thought that any sort of job, no matter how prestigious which warranted arising at around 7 am and braving the British winter weather to travel into work would be most unenviable, most unenviable indeed.

Not to mention that most working people are more in debt with the duration of each yr. than when they started.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: firehazard on August 15, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
You're 666, tough luck im afraid. It could be worse you could be working on a motorway digging up the road.

Take that 666 shirt and own it...
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: Valentines Park on August 15, 2014, 09:01:41 PM

Take that 666 shirt and own it...

Indeed.

There must be some English cricketers who like Iron Maiden.
Title: Re: Superstitious anyone ?
Post by: firehazard on August 17, 2014, 08:30:55 AM
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There must be some English cricketers who like Iron Maiden.

"I have the fire, I have the force..."