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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: stickyboy on July 01, 2014, 03:18:32 PM
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Another sell-out at the Fortress. Same 11 as last game no doubt.
Think if we win this that's pretty much top 4 confirmed. Also as Surrey are 3rd would be hard to miss out on top 2 and a guaranteed home QF with a victory
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Another sell-out at the Fortress. Same 11 as last game no doubt.
Think if we win this that's pretty much top 4 confirmed. Also as Surrey are 3rd would be hard to miss out on top 2 and a guaranteed home QF with a victory
Tough game. Roy is on fire. But then there is Dernbach to balance things up.
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Tough game. Roy is on fire. But then there is Dernbach to balance things up.
Yes when Dernbach plays its like playing 10-men! See Surrey are at home to Kent tonight on Sky
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Friday looks to be quite a game as Sorry have won 6 of last 7 games in all competitions, interesting to see what happens at the toss as both like to insert the opposition, looking forward to it & expecting a high scoring game. A win for us would almost seal qualification.
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Yes Surrey beat Kent tonight and have overtaken Hampshire with a game in hand. Hampshire have Kent on Friday
Essex P. 8 PTS. 14
Surrey P. 8 PTS. 12
Hants P. 9 PTS. 12
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Tough game. Roy is on fire. But then there is Dernbach to balance things up.
Yes when Dernbach plays its like playing 10-men! See Surrey are at home to Kent tonight on Sky
He hasn't played in Surrey's last two T20 matches due to a hamstring injury.
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He hasn't played in Surrey's last two T20 matches due to a hamstring injury.
helps explain their good run then of late
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looking at the odds to win the T20 Blast outright, the bookies have us and Surrey as pretty much joint favourites with Hampshire just behind. Essex are around 4/1 to win it
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looking at the odds to win the T20 Blast outright, the bookies have us and Surrey as pretty much joint favourites with Hampshire just behind. Essex are around 4/1 to win it
That's rubbish. Hants are a very good team, much better than Essex.
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looking at the odds to win the T20 Blast outright, the bookies have us and Surrey as pretty much joint favourites with Hampshire just behind. Essex are around 4/1 to win it
That's rubbish. Hants are a very good team, much better than Essex.
Surrey looked a very good team last night as well.
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That's rubbish. Hants are a very good team, much better than Essex.
The league table may disagree as we are 2 points ahead of them with a game in hand. They have lost 3 games so hardly unstoppable
In all fairness Essex and Surrey are 4/1 and Hants 5/1 so not alot in it. Have a flutter although the bookies always win overall!
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looking at the odds to win the T20 Blast outright, the bookies have us and Surrey as pretty much joint favourites with Hampshire just behind. Essex are around 4/1 to win it
That's rubbish. Hants are a very good team, much better than Essex.
Surrey looked a very good team last night as well.
Surrey have got to 2nd place with minimal contributions from KP. Eventually he will have a match changing innings. But not this week, ideally.
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They have lost 3 games so hardly unstoppable
Hants tend to win the games that matter.
Essex don't.
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Hants tend to win the games that matter.
Essex don't.
from what i remember Hants also lost their semi-final match last year :)
In the league format over the 14 games the best 4 teams will finish top without a doubt, once it goes down to knockout anyone can beat anyone on a one-off game. Essex, Hants and Surrey will certainly be 3 of the 4 teams from our group to qualify. All 3 were in the semis last year but were done over by Northants of all teams. Northants will struggle to qualify this year
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from what i remember Hants also lost their semi-final match last year :)
I did say tend.
Whereas Essex always falling at the final hurdle is a trend.
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I did say tend.
Whereas Essex always falling at the final hurdle is a trend.
What you posting on the "crash-bang-wallop" forum anyway. Thought it was beneath you?
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Thought it was beneath you?
I'm not overly anti the format in general.
I am anti Essex's approach however as it has made our county side a national laughing stock.
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Essex Eagles squad to face Surrey:
Mark Pettini (24)
Jesse Ryder (76)
Tom Westley (21)
Ravi Bopara (25)
Ryan ten Doeschate (27) (Captain)
Ben Foakes (4)
James Foster (7) (Wicket-keeper)
Tim Phillips (23)
Graham Napier (17)
David Masters (9)
Matt Salisbury (18)
Reece Topley (6)
Greg Smith (83)
Sajid Mahmood (19)
A couple of players including Masters to have fitness tests before the game. Is Mills injured again? He was 12th man in the last CC game.
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A couple of players including Masters to have fitness tests before the game. Is Mills injured again? He was 12th man in the last CC game.
The last time i remember Mills playing was the 2nd Xi game against Somerset 24-26 June, not sure whether he got injured.
Was Napier the other one for a fitness test?
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A couple of players including Masters to have fitness tests before the game. Is Mills injured again? He was 12th man in the last CC game.
The last time i remember Mills playing was the 2nd Xi game against Somerset 24-26 June, not sure whether he got injured.
Was Napier the other one for a fitness test?
Doesnt say it says
With a couple of players due to undergo fitness tests ahead of the game, the Eagles will select from a 14-man squad. One of those in doubt is bowler David Masters who is troubled by a foot injury sustained in the LV= County Championship match versus Gloucestershire. “He’s been for a scan and we’ll wait and see what the results of those are and what he’s like tomorrow”, Head Coach Paul Grayson explained.
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It's been bucketing it down in Mancs since around 12pm. Not moving very quickly, so hopefully Chelmsford will escape it, but if not it'll mean a NR because its pretty persistent.
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It's been bucketing it down in Mancs since around 12pm. Not moving very quickly, so hopefully Chelmsford will escape it, but if not it'll mean a NR because its pretty persistent.
Cant compare Sunny Chelmsford with rainy Manchester! The forecast looks ok from what i see
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Think we should be ok to get a result tonight although Essex vs Surrey matches at Chelmsford have been rain affected over the years in t20 inc. a NR or two - they also seem to win at Chelmsford a few times (the opposite at The Oval!)
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Tricky chase like Middx but a fair start.
There was barely a person in the ground who weren't overjoyed when KP blocked that maiden the proceeded to get to a left arm spinner yet again, moment of the night!!!
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There was barely a person in the ground who was overjoyed when KP blocked that maiden the proceeded to get to a left arm spinner yet again, moment of the night!!!
Whatever the result of this match, Pietersen's 1 run from 11 balls is a delight.
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Whatever the result of this match, Pietersen's 1 run from 11 balls is a delight.
Got hit whilst at the other end as well. As Peter West would say: 'oh dear, oh dear, oh dear' ;D ;D
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great result for the boys again - pretty easy win again really. Looking good
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great result for the boys again - pretty easy win again really. Looking good
Not so much slaughter of the innocents but slaughter of the arrogants.
KP, your boys one hell of a beating... :P :P :P :P :P :P
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Excellent win tonight well done.
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great result for the boys again - pretty easy win again really. Looking good
Not so much slaughter of the innocents but slaughter of the arrogants.
KP, your boys one hell of a beating... :P :P :P :P :P :P
You can do better than that Andy. I would suggest 'Alec Stewart, Micky Stewart, John Major, Sir Bruce Forsyth, Mick Jagger, Charles Colville your boys took one hell of a beating.
No idea if Sir Brucie likes cricket but he lives in Surrey and Jagger, although an alumni of Dartford Grammar, is always at the Oval test so I'll tag him a Sorry supporter.
There were some stats in the Gloucs program on our T20 win records against each county. Can't recall them exactly but our record against Sorry is very impressive - long may it continue.
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great result for the boys again - pretty easy win again really. Looking good
Not so much slaughter of the innocents but slaughter of the arrogants.
KP, your boys one hell of a beating... :P :P :P :P :P :P
You can do better than that Andy. I would suggest 'Alec Stewart, Micky Stewart, John Major, Sir Bruce Forsyth, Mick Jagger, Charles Colville your boys took one hell of a beating.
No idea if Sir Brucie likes cricket but he lives in Surrey and Jagger, although an alumni of Dartford Grammar, is always at the Oval test so I'll tag him a Sorry supporter.
There were some stats in the Gloucs program on our T20 win records against each county. Can't recall them exactly but our record against Sorry is very impressive - long may it continue.
Some great lines above & as always it was so satisfying beating Moneybags Sorry, Jason Roy endeared himself to all Essex fans with his drive that hit The Ego who of course got no sympathy. KP had another great night with just 1 before Phillips who bowled beautifully to him got him out - he still can't play slow left armers. can he?
I thought Sorry were 15/20 runs short, our bowlers did their job as always, Salisbury recovered well from 1 bad over & some solid contributions from the batsmen as we were well ahead of the run rate at all times. If my maths is correct we can't finish below 5th & need just 1 win to qualify, 2/3 will give us a home tie.
Well done boys ,another fine result COYE!!!
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Yes 1 win more win would make sure but realistically top 4 is certain with others beating others etc. Top 2 for a home tie versus 3rd or 4th in North group should be well within our grasp. Apart from the Middlesex home match where we scrapped in with Phillips knock have looked a pretty class act in this format
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A very good win. I was very pleased to see how well Salisbury performed. Home tie in the quarters looks very likely, but it also looks as though no team will want to bat first against us, so winning the toss could be important.
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Home tie in the quarters looks very likely, but it also looks as though no team will want to bat first against us, so winning the toss could be important.
Very good point. Think nearly all the wins have been batting 2nd. The only defeat against Hampshire we batted first. Be interesting how we manage next time we have to bat first again.
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We should've given Roy the MofM award for that exquisite stroke.
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Home tie in the quarters looks very likely, but it also looks as though no team will want to bat first against us, so winning the toss could be important.
Very good point. Think nearly all the wins have been batting 2nd. The only defeat against Hampshire we batted first. Be interesting how we manage next time we have to bat first again.
Been thinking the same for a while. Winning the toss and bowling is great for us but will come to an end soon.
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Someone (?Brian) might know; what percentage of t20 games are won by the ten which bats second?
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A good win, next match, Smith in for Foakes.
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A good win, next match, Smith in for Foakes.
Never thought anyone would say Smith in for anybody! But might be a good idea!
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A good win, next match, Smith in for Foakes.
Agree. Foakes looks out of his depth in all 1st team cricket at the mo.
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Someone (?Brian) might know; what percentage of t20 games are won by the ten which bats second?
I tried to do some research on the net but could only come up with this page on T20 stats for international cricket & IPL a few years ago.
There seems to be no real pattern. ie in the IPL
2008 - 62% by team batting 2nd
2009 - 53% by team batting 2nd
2010 - 47% by team batting 2nd
In T20 Internationals - 52% were won by team batting 2nd where as in T20 World Cups its 46%
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/457858.html
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The new ACS/Cricketarchive website may have something on this and I hope to have a look at it early next week. It may take a while as because it's new, I'm not used to it yet and List A and t20 events were only finished a couple of days ago.. It may take a while to come up with something but don't get your hopes up yet.
Here's hoping anyway.
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Here is a bit of research based on the admittedly small sample of this year's T20 blast. Errors may have occurred due to to my five bar gate system. Ignoring ties and abandoned matches
54% of games have been won by the team batting first
46% of games have been won by the team batting second.
Essex accounts for 24% of the games won by those batting second.
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One minor concern/observation - although we have won 8 out of 9 ,some very convincingly, our NRR is still only 0.388 & I would have thought it should be higher. I know only 2/3 Counties are plus on NRR but if we do falter & if placings come down to NRR then we may suffer in comparison to ,say, Sorry or Hants & possibly miss a 1/4 final home game.
I'm guessing the ideal scenario is for us to rack up 180-2 & bowl out the opposition for under 100, still we can hope for that, better still just keep winning like we have been doing so far!!
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One minor concern/observation - although we have won 8 out of 9 ,some very convincingly, our NRR is still only 0.388 & I would have thought it should be higher. I know only 2/3 Counties are plus on NRR but if we do falter & if placings come down to NRR then we may suffer in comparison to ,say, Sorry or Hants & possibly miss a 1/4 final home game.
I'm guessing the ideal scenario is for us to rack up 180-2 & bowl out the opposition for under 100, still we can hope for that, better still just keep winning like we have been doing so far!!
Think your right, this is probably do with us batting and getting the total with an over or so to go which makes our NRR not go up a great deal even if it was an 8 wkts which is pretty much a hammering. Your scenario of batting first and winning easily would indeed improve the NRR, although the way we keep winning NRR will be irrelevant!
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Batty: "We didn't score enough runs, it's as simple as that. We needed more runs in the powerplay. "
No criticism of KP, then. ;)
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Is there anyone out there who likes KP?? Lots of bashing here and everywhere in the media. I can think of one person who likes him - oh and just to say he's opted out of a trip to north Wales for Surrey's latest champo match which brings his grand total of champo matches played this season by KP to a whopping ZERO !!
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KP forgets (or never knew) that cricket is a team game - he should retire if he can't commit to all fixtures.
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Is there anyone out there who likes KP??
Strauss laided into him http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/kevinpietersen/10948593/Andrew-Strauss-caught-on-microphone-calling-Kevin-Pietersen-the-c-word-via-Sky-broadcast-from-Lords.html
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Is there anyone out there who likes KP??
Strauss laided into him http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/kevinpietersen/10948593/Andrew-Strauss-caught-on-microphone-calling-Kevin-Pietersen-the-c-word-via-Sky-broadcast-from-Lords.html
Strauss should get a knighthood for that - gone up in my estimation!
So KP wants to play for England still - more chance of playing a champo match this season then that happening and unless he plays regularly in the champ he's got no chance!!
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Back to the cricket, Somerset doing us a massive favour live on Sky - we should finish top of the group now!!
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Back to the cricket, Somerset doing us a massive favour live on Sky - we should finish top of the group now!!
didnt know they were playing. thanks for that which is a great result. Top 2 spot for home QF pretty much sorted now.
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I'm almost certain 1 win guarantees a top 4 finish & 2 guarantees a home tie in the 1/4s, just hope we haven't used up all our good fortune yet!!
If I remember the last 2/3 years correctly though the overall winners have breezed through the Group etc, hope we continue this trend.