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Cricket => Essex Second XI => Topic started by: holidave on May 05, 2026, 02:42:43 PM

Title: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: holidave on May 05, 2026, 02:42:43 PM
Is it now Essex CCC policy not to give out any information on second x1 matches? oram I just not looking in the right place?
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: JasonP on May 05, 2026, 03:12:51 PM
Is it now Essex CCC policy not to give out any information on second x1 matches? oram I just not looking in the right place?

They don't seem to bother with it much.  It has the fixtures on the site but little else.   The website hasn't got up to date scores.

nvplay live is always the best place to go if you're looking for the score.

https://live.nvplay.com/ecb/
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: holidave on May 05, 2026, 05:00:06 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Perov on June 17, 2026, 09:30:49 AM
Again no details of the seconds against Yorkshire  on the Matchzone. Had to go on the Yorkshire site for the scorecard. Once again Das fails, Killen is wicketless over two innings, and Mackenzie Jones, drafted in late  from first team sub duties, has taken 4-40 odd. I still rate him as good, if not better than Bennett. Both worth  developing for the future.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: nat on June 17, 2026, 10:34:30 AM
Again no details of the seconds against Yorkshire  on the Matchzone. Had to go on the Yorkshire site for the scorecard. Once again Das fails, Killen is wicketless over two innings, and Mackenzie Jones, drafted in late  from first team sub duties, has taken 4-40 odd. I still rate him as good, if not better than Bennett. Both worth  developing for the future.
The club is run on a shoestring and it shows,
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: kingstonj1 on June 17, 2026, 08:31:37 PM
Das contract was pretty baffling but I guess it was done as no one else but you would have thought a club player or NC could be drafted in as emergency if that desperate.

Kileen is odd, a coup signing we thought based on his Durham glimpses but struggling. But let's not underestimate the upheaval of moving from the far north to Essex at such a young age.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Andy on June 18, 2026, 08:14:56 PM
Das contract was pretty baffling but I guess it was done as no one else but you would have thought a club player or NC could be drafted in as emergency if that desperate.

Kileen is odd a couple signing we though based on his Durham glimpses but struggling. But let's not underestimate the upheaval of moving from the far north to Essex at such a young age.

Indeed Killeen has totally disappeared whilst Akhtar has been useful and perhaps could be used more in the red ball team in the rest of this summer.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: nat on July 16, 2026, 01:44:11 PM
Sad to see the state of this team. Some players need to be put out of their misery.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Cartero on July 16, 2026, 09:53:47 PM
I hadn't seen a 2s match for about 2/3 years but was at Billericay yesterday v Lancs. As Nat says it was a sad reflection on how thin our resources are, exacerbated by first team demands presumably-I made it Lancs had at least 8 contracted players on the field ,some with a lot of experience eg Bailey, Parkinson, Bell, Balderson, Bohannon, Hurst, while we had just one, who hasn't yet figured in the first XI in any format-Killeen, who I thought didn't bowl badly considering. In the circs I suppose we did well to scrape a draw. But there is zero atmosphere there in contrast to the old 2nd XI festivals at Coggeshall and Halstead or Bishops Stortford, where the home club made an effort. Coupled with the lack of any publicity about the team this is all part of the hollowed out, minimal club Essex is fast becoming under the present invisible management.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: JasonP on July 16, 2026, 10:50:58 PM
I hadn't seen a 2s match for about 2/3 years but was at Billericay yesterday v Lancs. As Nat says it was a sad reflection on how thin our resources are, exacerbated by first team demands presumably-I made it Lancs had at least 8 contracted players on the field ,some with a lot of experience eg Bailey, Parkinson, Bell, Balderson, Bohannon, Hurst, while we had just one, who hasn't yet figured in the first XI in any format-Killeen, who I thought didn't bowl badly considering. In the circs I suppose we did well to scrape a draw. But there is zero atmosphere there in contrast to the old 2nd XI festivals at Coggeshall and Halstead or Bishops Stortford, where the home club made an effort. Coupled with the lack of any publicity about the team this is all part of the hollowed out, minimal club Essex is fast becoming under the present invisible management.

It?s a bit of an unfair comparison.  Lancashire were knocked out of the T20 and we were still in otherwise the likes of Das, Jones and Akhtar would have probably played.     Fernandes did play on day 1 but was subbed out.  Porter played today and I?m not sure why Westley hasn?t played to get some practice.

We have actually got a stronger squad this year than we have had over the last couple of years, 7 seamers not including Thain, 3 wicketkeepers, 3 spinners.  Not sure why we?d need more numbers than that in those departments.  At the start of last season before Jones and Bennett were added on rookie deals we had Snater, Porter, Cook and Richards as seamers.
Where we are short is batting.  Surely Das won?t get another contract and there doesn?t seem to be a lot coming through. 
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: nat on August 19, 2026, 11:23:32 AM
What the **** is going on with the 2XI?!

Getting thrashed by Glammy and as for Benkenstein he should be fined and dropped for the shot he played today.

Who is in charge of this rabble?
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: holidave on August 19, 2026, 02:15:01 PM
The Essex Squad is very small and with Cox, Cook and Das unavailable and 14 needed for tomorrow's match at Taunton, there is not much left for the Seconds. Only Benkenstein, Killeem and Zeb have any first team experience and two of those only in the Metro ODC. This means that our seconds are very inexperienced. Several are still eligable to play at U16 level. It's no wonder that they struggle.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Caughtright on August 19, 2026, 03:11:15 PM
So, not a rabble, more like a group of youngsters no doubt doing their best against more experienced opposition and perhaps even quite pleased to have been selected for our second eleven. Rather than contempt, some encouragement might be in order.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Perov on August 19, 2026, 03:20:45 PM
What the **** is going on with the 2XI?!

Getting thrashed by Glammy and as for Benkenstein he should be fined and dropped for the shot he played today.

Who is in charge of this rabble?
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Barry Hyam, assisted by Mark Pettini.  Lost the match by a huge margin. Again, no Das.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: vim on August 19, 2026, 03:49:22 PM
It will get to the stage that, you dare not go and watch. In case you are asked to play for Essex.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: nat on August 19, 2026, 03:49:45 PM
So, not a rabble, more like a group of youngsters no doubt doing their best against more experienced opposition and perhaps even quite pleased to have been selected for our second eleven. ...

That attitude has its rightful place in the Dog & Duck 3XI on Sunday.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: nat on August 19, 2026, 03:50:49 PM
It will get to the stage that, you dare not go and watch. In case you are asked to play for Essex.

I'd show more determination than Benkenstein showed today.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: vim on August 19, 2026, 03:54:00 PM
It would be awful. If you were asked to play. For the reason, that you are all we have.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: afinetickletoleg on August 25, 2026, 03:26:32 PM
Any updates from the game at Billericay?
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: nat on August 25, 2026, 04:09:35 PM
Any updates from the game at Billericay?
Yeah we?re getting thrashed again and Benky gave away both his innings.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Caughtright on August 25, 2026, 04:27:30 PM
Thank you for asking about the Seconds' game - I had not noticed that it is taking place. With reference to recent correspondence on this thread about our Seconds: on the one hand it might be said that it is not constructive to refer to them as a rabble, but on the other hand it could be said that it shows we supporters care strongly about the performance of teams representing our Essex CCC - we just have different ways of expressing ourselves.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: JasonP on August 31, 2026, 06:00:06 PM
Another pretty awful day.  411 runs from 84 overs.  53 extras.  Over the last few years we've not done great but this year seems even worse than usual.
https://live.nvplay.com/ecb/?tab=m_summary

Awful record in the T20
https://www.cricinfo.com/series/second-eleven-twenty20-2026-1534377/points-table-standings

Awful record in the 2nd XI Championship
https://www.cricinfo.com/series/second-eleven-championship-2026-1534376/points-table-standings

Whoever runs the website had enough in late June after we lost all matches, bar one no result, at that stage!  It hasn't got better since!
https://essexcricket.org.uk/results/mens-second/
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: nat on August 31, 2026, 06:39:16 PM
Another shambles. I briefly watched Ben Waring (SLA) play for Hertfordshire the other day. Was with Essex some years ago but he is still a quality bowler.

Maybe he doesn't want anything to do with Essex but he would lift the 2XI standard and could push for a 1XI place.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Perov on August 31, 2026, 07:01:52 PM
Hyam and Petini are too cosy,  the team drifts along,  nothing changes and they sit about playing  with their phones and having a laugh.  Nice guys but..........
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: Crisp on September 01, 2026, 07:29:59 AM
Another shambles. I briefly watched Ben Waring (SLA) play for Hertfordshire the other day. Was with Essex some years ago but he is still a quality bowler.

Maybe he doesn't want anything to do with Essex but he would lift the 2XI standard and could push for a 1XI place.

I totally agree, but the club runs the Academy and like other Counties, the way forward is known as the pathway, which is simply you play for the academy and if good enough develop into the Seconds then the Firsts.

I think Paul Walter was the last club cricketer to break through our system and I am unsure if we had an academy then?

Other Counties are the same, club cricketers are not considered, but if you look at the performances of our 2nd X1 cricketers at the weekend for there clubs then you will realise that we either have a bunch of under achievers or players that are simply not good enough.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: vim on September 01, 2026, 08:29:52 AM
A look should be made for players everywhere.

Brian Hardie and Brian Edmeades were found by looking in Scotland. RTD was discovered in Holland. With the academy/pathway. There have been players who never made the team. Or doing an Aaron Beard, in flunking out a few years later.

There are plenty of players name-dropped, who are claimed to be. The best thing since sliced bread. Yes, Mother's Pride.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: JasonP on September 01, 2026, 09:18:58 AM
A look should be made for players everywhere.

Brian Hardie and Brian Edmeades were found by looking in Scotland. RTD was discovered in Holland. With the academy/pathway. There have been players who never made the team. Or doing an Aaron Beard, in flunking out a few years later.

There are plenty of players name-dropped, who are claimed to be. The best thing since sliced bread. Yes, Mother's Pride.

He wasn't.  He played against us in South Africa on a pre season tour.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: JasonP on September 01, 2026, 09:24:29 AM
Another shambles. I briefly watched Ben Waring (SLA) play for Hertfordshire the other day. Was with Essex some years ago but he is still a quality bowler.

Maybe he doesn't want anything to do with Essex but he would lift the 2XI standard and could push for a 1XI place.

I totally agree, but the club runs the Academy and like other Counties, the way forward is known as the pathway, which is simply you play for the academy and if good enough develop into the Seconds then the Firsts.

I think Paul Walter was the last club cricketer to break through our system and I am unsure if we had an academy then?

Other Counties are the same, club cricketers are not considered, but if you look at the performances of our 2nd X1 cricketers at the weekend for there clubs then you will realise that we either have a bunch of under achievers or players that are simply not good enough.

Alastair Cook was in the first Academy intake, so we definitely had an academy then.
Title: Re: Essex ccc second x1
Post by: JasonP on September 17, 2026, 09:25:06 AM
They didn't even manage to pick 11 players yesterday.  There were only 10 players listed at the start and only 10 batted.  It seems we have another Thain that can score hundreds against second XI level bowling attacks in 50 over cricket.

https://live.nvplay.com/ecb/?tab=m_scorecard#md9290bd7-8783-46a6-b928-76cecdda8925