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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: stickyboy on June 16, 2014, 08:07:41 AM
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Middlesex lost 6 out of 6 so far, surely cant stop the mighty Essex can they?
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Middx have been dire at t20 for several years now - rock bottom last year I think, not so far off that the year before and this year 6 defeats from 6 as you say Sticky. Luckily we play them twice unlike the almost as hapless Sussex who we only play once this season - seems a bit unfair we only play them once and other sides get to potentially beat them twice?!
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Luckily we play them twice unlike the almost as hapless Sussex who we only play once this season - seems a bit unfair we only play them once and other sides get to potentially beat them twice?!
yes we were talking about that the other day. Each team doesn't play 2 of the others twice. We lose Sussex and Somerset. Could have done with missing Hampshire. As you say on the plus side at least we have got Middx twice!
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Is next season the reverse of this ie do we play Sussex away & Somerset at home or is it a different 2 Counties we only play once? It would be silly if we only had, say, Sorry, Kent or Middlesex once due to proximity & the effect on gates especially as so many of our supporters go to Lords & The Oval.
Mind you I seem to recall a few years earlier when we only had both Middlesex & Sorry once in the Group - stupid!!
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i suppose the sensible thing would be to play 16 games rather than 14 to play everyone twice, i am sure Essex would like the extra home game to promote!
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I seem to recall Middx giving us a stuffing last season at home...... ::)
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i suppose the sensible thing would be to play 16 games rather than 14 to play everyone twice, i am sure Essex would like the extra home game to promote!
and rightly so seeing as we are clearly a decent side for this format and bloody clueless in the LVCC!
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Clueless by design rather than accident though.
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probably...
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Middlesex match now sold on which is pretty good considering its on TV
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& of course the club shout it from the rooftops.
http://www.essexcricket.org.uk/2014/06/18/reserved-seating-sold-out-for-panthers-limited-standing-tickets-remain/
Whilst Ravi is the only person who fronts up about the Hants debacle.
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this is about T20 cricket not to do with Championship cricket!
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& of course the club shout it from the rooftops.
http://www.essexcricket.org.uk/2014/06/18/reserved-seating-sold-out-for-panthers-limited-standing-tickets-remain/
Whilst Ravi is the only person who fronts up about the Hants debacle.
Come on now the Hants game was hopefully just an "accident"
http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Paul-Grayson-reveals-harsh-words-Essex-thrashing/story-21255837-detail/story.html
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Strange how these "accidents" happen on a regular basis.
He truly is a goon.
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Middlesex have beaten Somerset by eight wickets tonight with 17 balls to spare so the game is now looking a bit more difficult than before. On paper they look a much better team than the Gloucester team we beat the other night. Denly made 90 odd, so with him Stirling, Morgan, Malan and Christian they have a few very dangerous batsmen.
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yes just seen that myself. bit of a surprise beating Somerset too, although thats good for us.
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Strange how these "accidents" happen on a regular basis...
ECCC's insurance premiums are going to be shooting up.
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ECCC's insurance premiums are going to be shooting up.
Can you insure for act of clod?
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ECCC's insurance premiums are going to be shooting up.
Can you insure for act of clod?
Dunno, though I did one have to proofread a document that referred to an "act of Cod" (which I rather enjoyed).
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ECCC's insurance premiums are going to be shooting up.
Can you insure for act of clod?
Dunno, though I did one have to proofread a document that referred to an "act of Cod" (which I rather enjoyed).
LOL. A fishy tale! Take it you changed employment at once.
We all do it!
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& of course the club shout it from the rooftops.
Indeed, the euphemisms are only surmounted by the deafening echoes of denial.
''The Eagles hoping to bounce back from their difficult week in Championship cricket. ''
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come on chaps get out of your Championship Cricket doom and gloom! This is the T20 where we are actually quite good....for now anyway :)
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come on chaps get out of your Championship Cricket doom and gloom! This is the T20 where we are actually quite good....for now anyway :)
Well, they should be considering the fact that the playing staff is heavily loaded with specialist one day players. Pettini, Ten Doeschate, Bopara, Smith, Philips, Napier et al to name but a few.
One could arguably add Ryder to that list and according to Galboy, Foakes and Westley are also developing along this line. At the end of the day, whatever way one views T20, it isn't cricket and was never originally intended to be, but merely a money making diversion to attract the sponsorship of a tyrannical Rupert Murdoch's satellite TV.
I don't think back in 2002 or whenever T20 was introduced, it was envisaged that it would transpire to be a monster which would threaten the traditional game of cricket. Maybe the authorities underestimated the instant gratification, dumbed down public's mentality, although they shouldn't have, particularly in the UK where the Sun and Daily Mail are the leading newspapers.( I use the term newspapers, strictly in the euphemistical context.)
NB, I'm not entirely certain as to whether euphemistical is an acceptable word, although I know euphemistically is au fait. No doubt my mentor, Fire, will be able to advise upon this matter. ;D
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I don't think back in 2002 or whenever T20 was introduced, it was envisaged that it would transpire to be a monster which would threaten the traditional game of cricket.
20/20 does appear to have become something of a Pol Pot style Year Zero destroying everything in its overhyped wake.
Still as long as you can flog some crap Kentish beer off the back of it ...
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ECCC's insurance premiums are going to be shooting up.
Can you insure for act of clod?
Dunno, though I did one have to proofread a document that referred to an "act of Cod" (which I rather enjoyed).
LOL. A fishy tale! Take it you changed employment at once...
It was a typo that I caught while doing some freelance proofreading work. It was so delicious that I have to admit I was tempted to leave it in...
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ECCC's insurance premiums are going to be shooting up.
Can you insure for act of clod?
Dunno, though I did one have to proofread a document that referred to an "act of Cod" (which I rather enjoyed).
LOL. A fishy tale! Take it you changed employment at once...
It was a typo that I caught while doing some freelance proofreading work. It was so delicious that I have to admit I was tempted to leave it in...
Take it you caught it on a long line! Very impressive being able to work as a proof-reader; I'd never manage the concentration!
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Back to topic - We will select from a 14-man squad with Greg Smith, Kishen Velani and Saj Mahmood added to the squad that beat Gloucestershire last Friday, although Graham Napier and Matt Salisbury are still unfit.
Pettini, Ryder, Westley, Bopara, Ten Doeschate, Foakes, Foster, Phillips, Masters, Mills, Topley, Smith, Velani, Mahmood
Middlesex's 13 man squad
Eoin Morgan, Dan Christian, Joe Denly, Neil Dexter, Nick Gubbins, James Harris, Ryan Higgins, Dawid Malan, Ravi Patel, Harry Podmore, Ollie Rayner, Gurjit Sandhu, John Simpson
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What's the matter with Graham Napier? Fit enough to york Nasser ...
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Saj playing a 20-20 game! They must be 'avin a larf.
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Saj playing a 20-20 game! They must be 'avin a larf.
No, he's not playing. He's the 'heavy roller'?
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Saj playing a 20-20 game! They must be 'avin a larf.
No, he's not playing. He's the 'heavy roller'?
The only way he'll get near to the playing strip!
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Saj playing a 20-20 game! They must be 'avin a larf.
No, he's not playing. He's the 'heavy roller'?
I'm imagining a beautifully rolled strip of pitch several metres wide of the wicket...
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3 wins from the last 8 should see us take a top 4 spot, although a top 2 spot will guarantee home tie against 3rd or 4th in North Group
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a top 2 spot will guarantee home tie against 3rd or 4th in North Group
Well Larry has said the team have forgotten all about being gubbed by Hants.
& more games means more crap beer sold.
Essex expects ...
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Well Larry has said the team have forgotten all about being gubbed by Hants.
& more games means more crap beer sold.
Essex expects ...
still going on about the Hants defeat and crap beer....move on sir!
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still going on about the Hants defeat and crap beer....move on sir!
I suppose I should get on message.
The club must love fans like you & Quincy.
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I suppose I should get on message.
The club must love fans like you & Quincy.
In what sense do you mean fans must love fans like me?
In all fairness i have had quite a few moans about the club on here , T20 prices, car parking, rip off food prices etc.
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In all fairness i have had quite a few moans about the club on here , T20 prices, car parking, rip off food prices etc.
You do seem to be pretty unquestioning about the onfield product.
Everything else crap about the club (admittedly a very long list) is secondary.
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You do seem to be pretty unquestioning about the onfield product.
Everything else crap about the club (admittedly a very long list) is secondary.
Up to the Hampshire thrashing which was obviously poor we hadn't done too badly so far this season with only 1 defeat in the CC, i realise a lot of draws but a few we were stopped winning by the weather. In the T20 we have been on fire and played some entertaining cricket which it what it is all about
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Up to the Hampshire thrashing which was obviously poor we hadn't done too badly so far this season
It's the same old story though.
As soon as we face the one or two good sides in this division we fold like a pack of cards.
20/20 is the same when we get to the business end of the competition.
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It's the same old story though.
As soon as we face the one or two good sides in this division we fold like a pack of cards.
20/20 is the same when we get to the business end of the competition.
Both points - very true and cant argue there.
My original point being that yes it was a dismal effort against Hampshire and hopefully behind the scenes will sort it out but we all need to move on and hopefully a win tonite then we have a week before another Champ game. Hopefully it will improve.
Anyway just look how bad England were yesterday!
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Up to the Hampshire thrashing which was obviously poor we hadn't done too badly so far this season with only 1 defeat in the CC,
Which was mainly acquired with the assistance of our best player, R Ains. The sole victory was attained against one of the weakest sides in the championship this season, Derbys and then only because of a rare, freak innings from Cook who is unavailable for any further games. I'd dread to think what your definition of doing 'badly' would be.
On a hypothetical note, I wonder what the attitude of div. 1 football followers would be if their club decided to not bother with attempting to attain promotion to the Premier League and concentrated instead on a novel Micky Mouse, five a side, ten mins. each half competition designed solely for the benefit of a TV station run by a tyrant who gave this septic isle the 'Sun.'
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Anyway just look how bad England were yesterday!
Surely you didn't expect the Engerland football team to qualify from a group that included Italy and Uruguay, did you???
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I suppose I should get on message.
The club must love fans like you & Quincy.
In what sense do you mean fans must love fans like me?
In all fairness i have had quite a few moans about the club on here , T20 prices, car parking, rip off food prices etc.
Yes but unless you keep repeating the same points incessantly VP sees you as a supporter of everything that the club does. There is no colour in his world; it is all black and white.
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There is no colour in his world; it is all black and white.
You must be some kind of visionary extraordinaire if you can see any other hue than black in Valentino's world, Trickle. ;D
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Anyway just look how bad England were yesterday!
Surely you didn't expect the Engerland football team to qualify from a group that included Italy and Uruguay, did you???
Wouldn't expect that lot to qualify against the Taiwanese women's team (reserve), given the latter team's aggression in the tackle. :-\
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On a hypothetical note, I wonder what the attitude of div. 1 football followers would be if their club decided to not bother with attempting to attain promotion to the Premier League and concentrated instead on a novel Micky Mouse, five a side, ten mins. each half competition designed solely for the benefit of a TV station run by a tyrant who gave this septic isle the 'Sun.'
you don't like T20 do you :)
I am not sure novel is the word for T20, it has been going 11 years now and tonight is a sell out considering it is on TV is amazing considering everyone is supposed to be short of cash! I think originally it was meant as a bit of a laugh but now its serious stuff. Having spoke to several players they much prefer playing in front of big crowds in T20 than a handful of people at a Championship game. When are you going to get a big marketing campaign by Essex to fill the "fortress" for a Championship Match? Never because its not marketable. The club have realised this and have tried to make the money where they can, luckily for you this just about keeps championship cricket alive.....for the time being of course.
Just a slightly point - in your example you say about Div.1 players not bothering to try to get to Premier League (Div.1 players would be trying to get to Championship or Championship players to Premiership technically of course if i am being picky). :)
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Stickyboy, don't try reasoning with him on this. I've used the analogy of charging more peak times to offset loss-making off peak journeys: cue a diatribe on the privatisiation of the railways (even though cross-subsidization pre-dates Thatcher).
However, I'm not sure whether it was seen as a 'laugh'. The county game's been effectively loss making (covered up by tv money) for a long time. I think this was always the case, except in the late 70s-late 80s maybe.
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However, I'm not sure whether it was seen as a 'laugh'. The county game's been effectively loss making (covered up by tv money) for a long time. I think this was always the case, except in the late 70s-late 80s maybe.
point taken! ok not a laugh but maybe was looking to boost the game's popularity with the younger generation in response to dwindling crowds and reduced sponsorship. It was intended to deliver fast paced, exciting cricket accessible to thousands of fans who were put off by the longer versions of the game
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Just a slightly point - in your example you say about Div.1 players not bothering to try to get to Premier League (Div.1 players would be trying to get to Championship or Championship players to Premiership technically of course if i am being picky). :)
Chalk and cheese, I wasn't referring to players having a lack of ambition to play in a higher league, I was referring to clubs, specifically ECCC. Using one format to make money in order to better one's chances in another is understandable, but to use that money solely to enhance the club's chances in the same format is another matter entirely.
Take for instance the club's promotion in 2009, when no players were added to the squad but expensive foreign imports were parachuted in for the T20. 2010 may have even been the yr. of the disastrous signing of Dwayne Bravo, although without bothering to google it, I can't be sure.
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ok not a laugh but maybe was looking to boost the game's popularity with the younger generation in response to dwindling crowds and reduced sponsorship. It was intended to deliver fast paced, exciting cricket accessible to thousands of fans who were put off by the longer versions of the game
...which are the worst things that could happen to the modern game, apparently.
Off to Old Trafford to watch some Mickey Mouse cricket. Only £15 (full price - £10 in advance). ;)
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the disastrous signing of Dwayne Bravo
The club got what they deserved with that stunt.
Hiring a ringer & then dressing it up otherwise was contemptible.
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you don't like T20 do you :)
I must admit I'm not over enamoured by T20, although I can perceive that it might hold a certain fascination for audiences with an appreciation of Big Brother and the Jeremy Kyle 'show.'
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the Jeremy Kyle 'show.'
To be fair DNA testing might establish who Grayson is related to on the Cricket Committee.
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Off to Old Trafford to watch some Mickey Mouse cricket. Only £15 (full price - £10 in advance). ;)
dont enjoy yourself will you, that T20 is way to fast and exciting for some :)
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I must admit I'm not over enamoured by T20, although I can perceive that it might hold a certain fascination for audiences with an appreciation of Big Brother and the Jeremy Kyle 'show.'
I like T20 but would never watch those programmes. Surely the people who watch those programmes wouldn't be able to afford to get in to a T20!
Although your an Essex "fan" i bet you would actually rather than lose any T20 match to make you feel better about it. Am I correct?
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T20 is way to fast and exciting for some
Is it really?
These days it seems to be all about taking the pace off the ball.
Still I suppose most of those watching are too drunk to notice.
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Still I suppose most of those watching are too drunk to notice.
Went to the game last week v Gloucs and crowd was very civilised
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wow that was a bit tight in the end. Quality innings from Phillips.
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Ryder looked like a village green number eleven, trying to smash everything, and playing some terrible air shots.
I was not impressed.
But a win is a win and well done Tim Phillips.
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Off to Old Trafford to watch some Mickey Mouse cricket. Only £15 (full price - £10 in advance). ;)
dont enjoy yourself will you, that T20 is way to fast and exciting for some :)
Virtual walk over. Midders bowled extremely well (can see why we released him in favour of that one day specialist spinning all rounder) Jos Buttler destroyed the rest of the Northants attack, although watching him 'keep' reminds me how I've been spoiled by witnessing many Fossie masterclasses!
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Seems a certain persons one day contract is up for renewal. ;) Well done Mr Phillips.
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Ryder looked like a village green number eleven, trying to smash everything, and playing some terrible air shots.
I was not impressed.
But a win is a win and well done Tim Phillips.
Yes, he looked completely out of sorts, misfielding, didn't bowl and then hit the ball unerringly to the mid-wicket boundary fielder in the power play. Not quite what you expect from your overseas player.
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Yes, he looked completely out of sorts, misfielding, didn't bowl and then hit the ball unerringly to the mid-wicket boundary fielder in the power play. Not quite what you expect from your overseas player.
He and Monty been naughty boys? Both seem 'out of sorts'.
OK who wants a bet: booze, blow or birds?
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We got out of jail thanks to Tim Phillips who yet again showed a calmness in a batting crisis, whatever his limitations in 4 day cricket is well worth his place in 1 day cricket. Middlesex should have got around 180/190 but once Morgan was out lost their way a bit as our bowlers clawed us back into it, some shoddy fielding at times notably from Ryder but a fine run out from Reece who also bowled excellently to Christian before getting him out.
Yet again we froze against Ravi Patel who always bowls well against us, Podmore too bowled very well but our batting was fragile (sounds familiar?) bar Pettini, Tendo & Phillips, still a win is a win & 2/3 more should see us qualify at the very least.
One final thing - I had to complain to a Steward about a group of 7 orange clad young men who were standing up far too much in the Hayes Close end (almost all the time towards the end) what with continual visits to the Bar & toilet as well making it difficult to watch the game at times which they clearly weren't!!. To be fair they were spoken to & heeded the words (for about 2 minutes) but credit the Steward for taking action.
We need to be better all round next week v Somerset but well done to the team anyway.
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A propos nothing. Freddie flintoff's certainly lost weight since he played for England. Barely recognised the guy when he was walking past me. Only when he started chatting, he was Ashwell Prince's b@*ch for the night, to use the vernacular, did I recognise him.
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Ryder looked like a village green number eleven, trying to smash everything, and playing some terrible air shots.
I was not impressed.
Agree he looked awful yesterday. Ryder's T20 scores so far (no of balls faced in brackets)
Middx 15 (14)
Glam 30 (18)
Hants 1 (4)
Surrey 31 (16)
Kent 32 (14)
Gloucs 25 (18)
Middx 8 (10)
Had a few starts and the 30s have been at 2 runs a ball but needs to go on and make the 70/80 match winning knock to justify his overseas tag to be honest
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We got out of jail thanks to Tim Phillips who yet again showed a calmness in a batting crisis, whatever his limitations in 4 day cricket is well worth his place in 1 day cricket. Middlesex should have got around 180/190 but once Morgan was out lost their way a bit as our bowlers clawed us back into it, some shoddy fielding at times notably from Ryder but a fine run out from Reece who also bowled excellently to Christian before getting him out.
Yet again we froze against Ravi Patel who always bowls well against us, Podmore too bowled very well but our batting was fragile (sounds familiar?) bar Pettini, Tendo & Phillips, still a win is a win & 2/3 more should see us qualify at the very least.
One final thing - I had to complain to a Steward about a group of 7 orange clad young men who were standing up far too much in the Hayes Close end (almost all the time towards the end) what with continual visits to the Bar & toilet as well making it difficult to watch the game at times which they clearly weren't!!. To be fair they were spoken to & heeded the words (for about 2 minutes) but credit the Steward for taking action.
We need to be better all round next week v Somerset but well done to the team anyway.
Watched on Sky (!) and from what I saw, agree entirely. The orange clad young men were shown a couple of times; I wondered what they were up to!
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So I take it that if we hadn't scraped past the worst 20/20 side in the country Grayson would be falling on his sword?
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So I take it that if we hadn't scraped past the worst 20/20 side in the country Grayson would be falling on his sword?
I bet you were gutted when Phillips pulled it out the fire!
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I bet you were gutted when Phillips pulled it out the fire!
I'm relying on Essex to fall at the final hurdle.
If we win the comp then Grayson truly will have a job for life. :(
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The orange clad young men were shown a couple of times; I wondered what they were up to!
Perhaps they were horologists checking on the clockwork, Square.
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cracking win..well played Swampy, Ryan and Timmy....I had a chat with tim on his way up and he was genuinely chuffed to have won the game for us. Lovely lad.
Top of the league...love it.
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Top of the league...love it.
A splendid achievement indeed, Blocky, but when was the last time this could be stated of Essex in relation to the game of cricket, 2002 in div. 2, or should we digress further to the days prior to apartheid back in 1992.
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If we win the comp then Grayson truly will have a job for life. :(
You think he hasn't already, surely not. :o
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Achievement indeed, Blocky, but when was the last time this could be stated of Essex in relation to the game of cricket, 2002 in div. 2, or should we digress further to the days prior to apartheid back in 1992.
YAWN!
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Hang on Diatribe may have a point.
Robben Island must have a vacancy for an enemy of the state.
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Good win for the team but dear oh dear does the batting look fragile. They need to see a Psychologist.
Still doesn't get rid of the nasty taste of being thrashed by Hampshire in the CC though.
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Top of the league...love it.
A splendid achievement indeed, Blocky, but when was the last time this could be stated of Essex in relation to the game of cricket, 2002 in div. 2, or should we digress further to the days prior to apartheid back in 1992.
pro-40 a couple of times in mid/late 2000's, under the great leadership of Swampy (and a good bit of work from Irani to be fair). Friends provident trophy......kent at lords...one of the best days out ever..fact.
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Good win for the team but dear oh dear does the batting look fragile. They need to see a Psychologist.
Still doesn't get rid of the nasty taste of being thrashed by Hampshire in the CC though.
The previous T20 games we have looked anything but fragile. Chased down everything perfectly.
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Good win for the team but dear oh dear does the batting look fragile. They need to see a Psychologist.
Still doesn't get rid of the nasty taste of being thrashed by Hampshire in the CC though.
The previous T20 games we have looked anything but fragile. Chased down everything perfectly.
Indeed, Sticky. We’ve looked really professional.
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Indeed, Sticky. We’ve looked really professional.
have to agree , winning 6 out of 7 suggests shows that too. Think some people moan on here for the sake of it!
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pro-40 a couple of times in mid/late 2000's, under the great leadership of Swampy (and a good bit of work from Irani to be fair). Friends provident trophy......kent at lords...one of the best days out ever..fact.
Some good days there - loved the Kent one too :)
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Think some people moan on here for the sake of it!
If the obsession with 20/20 didn't override everything else I wouldn't be so anti.
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Think some people moan on here for the sake of it!
If the obsession with 20/20 didn't override everything else I wouldn't be so anti.
Quite right VP. It seems like some in here don't give a flying whatsit about whatever happens in the Championship as long as we keep winning in the T20 matches. Now, IF we went on to actually win it, then yes, it would be a good achievement and something to celebrate when it happens but, a) I'm much more concerned right now about the horribly inconsistent and sub standard batting we see virtually every Championship game and b) we all know that come T20 Finals day (should we make it that far) the side will freeze and lose the semi just like it has done EVERY single time so far anyway!
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Think some people moan on here for the sake of it!
If the obsession with 20/20 didn't override everything else I wouldn't be so anti.
Quite right VP. It seems like some in here don't give a flying whatsit about whatever happens in the Championship as long as we keep winning in the T20 matches. Now, IF we went on to actually win it, then yes, it would be a good achievement and something to celebrate when it happens but, a) I'm much more concerned right now about the horribly inconsistent and sub standard batting we see virtually every Championship game and b) we all know that come T20 Finals day (should we make it that far) the side will freeze and lose the semi just like it has done EVERY single time so far anyway!
Just maybe, under RtD, the lads won't freeze this time.
Triumph of hope over rational expectation maybe, but it springs eternal.
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Think some people moan on here for the sake of it!
If the obsession with 20/20 didn't override everything else I wouldn't be so anti.
Quite right VP. It seems like some in here don't give a flying whatsit about whatever happens in the Championship as long as we keep winning in the T20 matches. Now, IF we went on to actually win it, then yes, it would be a good achievement and something to celebrate when it happens but, a) I'm much more concerned right now about the horribly inconsistent and sub standard batting we see virtually every Championship game and b) we all know that come T20 Finals day (should we make it that far) the side will freeze and lose the semi just like it has done EVERY single time so far anyway!
Just maybe, under RtD, the lads won't freeze this time.
Triumph of hope over rational expectation maybe, but it springs eternal.
Everything's possible, I reckon!! even things as unlikely as THAT!! :)