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Club Administration => Club Administration => Topic started by: essexfan548 on July 11, 2025, 05:28:05 PM
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I hope everyone will take the time to answer this questionnaire.
I have asked for a members vote on any proposal to reduce CC matches.
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I hope everyone will take the time to answer this questionnaire.
I have asked for a members vote on any proposal to reduce CC matches.
Good. Yawkshur in the guise of Graves are trying to circumvent their members' previous instruction to require a vote.
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I have had a call from a Lancashire member as their questionnaire and options are different. They are collecing information from different County's members to try to understand if 'manipulation' is going in.
If anyone has friends who are members of different counties could you ask them what they have been asked?
I've done this for Kent and Gloucestershire.
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You may be aware that today (Wed 30/7) Alan Higham (Lanky member and anti-ECB activist) was present at the ECG collecting signatures on a petition requesting an SGM of the club to discuss the ECB proposal for a reduction in the county fixture list.
Alan made a specific journey to the ECG today for this purpose and should be commended.
He collected 250 signatures which he was intending to present to the club today.
I hope you had the opportunity to sign the petition and did so.
The club has been very quiet on its intentions on this subject which suggests they intend to ignore members wishes, however expressed.
If you support the campaign, lead in large part by Alan then please do whatever you can to persuade the club to reject the ECB proposals.
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Good luck with the feist in charge.fj would have been front and centre with the clubs plans as would stan
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I had an e-mail from Alan saying that Essex was the only county that hadn't made their position clear and that our vote was crucial to blocking the change.
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Of the 18 counties there are apparently 10 counties in favour of a reduction in fixtures (many counties have disregarded the view of their members).
6 counties are against.
Essex and Gloucestershire have yet to declare.
There needs to be 12 counties in favour for the motion to pass.
Don't let the Essex hierarchy run roughshod over the views of members.
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Of the 18 counties there are apparently 10 counties in favour of a reduction in fixtures (many counties have disregarded the view of their members).
6 counties are against.
Essex and Gloucestershire have yet to declare.
There needs to be 12 counties in favour for the motion to pass.
Don't let the Essex hierarchy run roughshod over the views of members.
Gloucs have said this: 'We will agree to 12 if the ECB promise to schedule 2 county championship games during the school summer holidays". Given the plans to play the Blast in July including the quarter finals and the final) and the Hundred in August, then it seems likely that the 2 championship games to be lost will the ones played in July at present. Gloucestershire may or may not agree to the reduction."
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I signed the petition. You had to give your membership number. So there was no signing as Mr C Lion of London Zoo, and the suchlike.
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Yep, met Alan, 159 on the list .
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His petition has had a lot more success than another petition, specifically for Essex. That one was taken round by someone, who is the model for the American joke about having someone from the Shop Floor as an Executive. His friend, looked as though he would run himself over, with his new electric car.
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There was one member, who refused to sign. The reason he supports the reduction in games, as it involves less workload on the players. Ah, diddums.
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Just had an invite to a webinar on 6th August.
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I have also received an invitation.
Now to arrange for anyone who refused to sign the petition. A prank invite to a personal meeting at 10 Downing Street.
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I have a question about the development, and the retail side of it.
How many, have completed their Bingo card of all the vacant retail premises at the moment in Chelmsford. That have had a visit from The Bailiffs.
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Gloucestershire, are to support a reduction in games, if they get guarantees regarding the Cheltenham Festival. In Wisden Cricketer, there is a piece about the remaining Championship Festival grounds. Gloucestershire now loses a six-figure sum on the festival. The new CEO, is talking about initiatives next season. Which, sound, to me as a combination of deckchairs and the Titanic.
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Gloucestershire, are to support a reduction in games, if they get guarantees regarding the Cheltenham Festival. In Wisden Cricketer, there is a piece about the remaining Championship Festival grounds. Gloucestershire now loses a six-figure sum on the festival. The new CEO, is talking about initiatives next season. Which, sound, to me as a combination of deckchairs and the Titanic.
Yes I posted that earlier. I attended some of the Cheltenham Festival for the Lancs game - attendance was good with 2400 on day one. New people in charge and lots of past cricketers talking about their careers in Stephen Chalke's tent. Vic Marks, Roland Butcher, Roger Knight, Andy Moles, Bob Barker [great stories about Boycott], Fred Rumsey and more.
Members weren't given a vote ...
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Why do members at many counties seemingly accept such a major decision on the future of the domestic professional game without their input (as owners of their respective county clubs)?
Are they not bothered? Are they lazy? Are they unaware of their rights as members/owners? Are they apathetic?
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Nat, I think a lot of people think the ECB have already decided and will fix the vote.
Major fallout in Lancs as they were promised a vote but weren't offered the option to keep 14 CC matches.
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The ECB has just given all the counties UKP 400K as the first payment from the H*ndr*d sale, so I think they'll be confident they can get their preferred option through with the rest of the cash to follow.
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The ECB has just given all the counties UKP 400K as the first payment from the H*ndr*d sale, so I think they'll be confident they can get their preferred option through with the rest of the cash to follow.
400k butter up for accountants to tick the right boxes, members views go into the shredder .
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It's all kicking off at Lanky. An SGM has been called with the objective of removing the chairman.
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It's all kicking off at Lanky. An SGM has been called with the objective of removing the chairman.
I told you! I met a few Lancashire members at Cheltenham ....
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If the SGM succeeds,
Then a few other Chairmen, will need to change into the brown trousers.
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It's all kicking off at Lanky. An SGM has been called with the objective of removing the chairman.
and he's now resigned. Good work by the Lanky members.
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Why do members at many counties seemingly accept such a major decision on the future of the domestic professional game without their input (as owners of their respective county clubs)?
Are they not bothered? Are they lazy? Are they unaware of their rights as members/owners? Are they apathetic?
A mixture of the three I would say. Essex members are certainly not immune to that.
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Don't forget the webinar tonight @ 6.30pm.
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Feedback only from survey and club position at present is no change .
No vote or date - only feedback to ECB .
Club happy to have SGM at present.
Players PCA rep Sam Cook stated they want reduction in cricket due to players welfare with short turn around in games and to much travel not enough rest recovery and fear quality is being diminishing the majority view of members .
Next season T20 to be finished before Hundred .
Club rather have CC games to start Thursdays .
Chris Silverwood backs return to Dukes ball .
Everybody rather have types of cricket played in blocks .
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Feedback only from survey and club position at present is no change .
No vote or date - only feedback to ECB .
Club happy to have SGM at present.
Players PCA rep Sam Cook stated they want reduction in cricket due to players welfare with short turn around in games and to much travel not enough rest recovery and fear quality is being diminishing the majority view of members .
Next season T20 to be finished before Hundred .
Club rather have CC games to start Thursdays .
Chris Silverwood backs return to Dukes ball .
Everybody rather have types of cricket played in blocks .
Eh?
How are the club intending to vote?
Will they vote in accordance with members' wishes?
When will they call the SGM?
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No vote has been scheduled as yet but we were told we favour retaining 14 CC games as now or 14 games with 8/10 split.
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No vote has been scheduled as yet but we were told we favour retaining 14 CC games as now or 14 games with 8/10 split.
I've read a slightly different interpretation. The club are 'minded' to support 14 CC games but will continue to consult (whatever that means). And the Chairman was miffed about the 250 signatures for an SGM.
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No vote has been scheduled as yet but we were told we favour retaining 14 CC games as now or 14 games with 8/10 split.
I've read a slightly different interpretation. The club are 'minded' to support 14 CC games but will continue to consult (whatever that means). And the Chairman was miffed about the 250 signatures for an SGM.
That's not what was said. They said they replied to the ECB that Essex supported 14 CC games either as now or 8/10 split.
The actual vote is later and cosultation is still taking place. Yes they were miffed a non-member handed it in - that's all. They will hold an SGM in about 4 to 6 weeks.
Were you actually in the webinar?
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I also thought the Chairman stated that in relation to the County Championship Essex are in favour of ECB Option A which maintains 14 matches.
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I also thought the Chairman stated that in relation to the County Championship Essex are in favour of ECB Option A which maintains 14 matches.
Yes - either the status quo or option A - that was clarified by someone asking for confirmation that the status quo was an option.
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I thought the chairman's churlish dig about Alan Higham not being a member was pathetic. Does that undermine the legitimacy of the petition and the 250 members who signed it? I've asked this question before with no answer. Who elected this chairman? Certainly not through the votes of the membership as I recall it. Wasn't he just imposed as a result of the Faragher farrago as a safe legal pair of establishment hands? He's a judge. He says he walks around the ground eliciting opinion. I have never seen him other than at AGMs
To be honest i'd be amazed if he didn't go with the zeitgeist and the majority counties and end up supporting a reduction despite his apparent support of 14 games tonight but I'll stand corrected and delighted if the status quo is maintained and he sticks to his guns.
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I thought the chairman's churlish dig about Alan Higham not being a member was pathetic. Does that undermine the legitimacy of the petition and the 250 members who signed it? I've asked this question before with no answer. Who elected this chairman? Certainly not through the votes of the membership as I recall it. Wasn't he just imposed as a result of the Faragher farrago as a safe legal pair of establishment hands? He's a judge. He says he walks around the ground eliciting opinion. I have never seen him other than at AGMs
To be honest i'd be amazed if he didn't go with the zeitgeist and the majority counties and end up supporting a reduction despite his apparent support of 14 games tonight but I'll stand corrected and delighted if the status quo is maintained and he sticks to his guns.
He did say he would organise a SGM within six weeks.
Yes, I thought it was an unnecessary comment about the petition 'being handed in by a non-member'.
The meeting was being recorded so I trust he will stick to what was said.
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Perhaps the voted members representives on the committee could be more visible and proactive in organising signed petitions and calling for SGM on behalf of the members, because at present they seem invisible and unable to communicate with the members, then the Chairman might not have a dig at AN Other non member organising a signed petition .
Strangely a non member can walk around the ground in members areas that now seemed open for all which are non policed.
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I thought it was the case that, the Chairman was faced with someone, who being a member of another club. Could not be fobbed off easily.
If Essex had any competency, they could have stopped the petition. Under the ground regulation, banning the unauthorised soliciting of goods and services.
This was used, with a Cricket fanzine that Peter Edwards refused to stock in the shop, as he thought the content was childish.
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There was a comment from the CEO, that Essex were looking at a vacant commercial premises near the ground. However, it fell through. What building was that?
They ought to look at the saga, with the old Chelmsford City FC ground. Before thinking of looking at nearby properties.
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This was used, with a Cricket fanzine that Peter Edwards refused to stock in the shop, as he thought the content was childish.
Oh I remember, Jonny Miller 96 not out: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/old-guard-says-out-to-cheeky-cricket-fanzine-1415868.html
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I thought it was another short-lived Fanzine, when they were all the rage.
I have issue No 1, from someone who knew somebody behind the Fanzine. There was a Cricket and sport memorabilia Fair in the Pavilion. One of the dealers had this issue, for sale at a price, which was not at a recent Football programme level. This was some years ago.
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This was used, with a Cricket fanzine that Peter Edwards refused to stock in the shop, as he thought the content was childish.
Oh I remember, Jonny Miller 96 not out: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/old-guard-says-out-to-cheeky-cricket-fanzine-1415868.html
Interesting dp.
Was talk of reinventing fanzines in football circles has clubs were removing programmes and having access now to e - versions which were sent into your email address .
Otherwise - Some entrepreneurs have set up pod casts , perhaps that?s the next step .
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Will they vote to members wishes ? Nat .
The opening line on the webinar from the chairman was , everything to be taken into account , not just members view.
The most influence will be from the ECB it?s self , timely sent all counties 400k from the first sales of franchise teams half ownership . Accountants will have the final say, given that membership money does not cover the running cost of clubs .
Nat - can you ask Sam how many first class cricketers are members in PCA ??
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I thought that almost all Players, were members of the PCA. They also provide services for members who are former Players.
Going back to when, Cricket was not well paid. Trevor Bailey dealt with hardship cases, and told of circumstances where former Players had really fallen on hard times.
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Nat - can you ask Sam how many first class cricketers are members in PCA ??
We're not talking at the moment. He's playing too much golf and not enough net practice.
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/aug/11/t20-blast-lose-two-matches-per-team-in-2026-domestic-cricket-reshuffle
No agreement on the Championship yet.
"?The men?s T20 Vitality Blast will be reduced from 14 to 12 group-stage games from 2026 to streamline the competition and ease the workload on players in the latest reshuffle of English domestic cricket.
The reduction in the number of games will allow the competition to be played in a block, with Finals Day held before the Hundred starts in August, rather than going into hibernation during the summer holidays before stumbling back to life in September.?
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There is not yet any agreement on the future of the County Championship, but the mood music suggests against any drastic change, despite the PCA?s plea that a reduction from 14 to 12 games is ?the only reasonable option?. A decision will be made by the counties before the Championship resumes for three final rounds in September."
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Clearly struggling to get the votes needed to reduce it. We all know that's what they want to do.
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Championship now officially relegated to April, May, June and September .
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New group structure as hinted in the webinar here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cy7y5y2z46ro
"Men's Vitality T20 Blast
The group stage of the Vitality T20 Blast reverts to three groups with North, Central and South Groups with the eight best-placed teams on points and net run-rates going through to the quarter-finals.
North Group: Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Lancashire, Durham, Yorkshire and Leicestershire
Central Group: Gloucestershire, Northamptonshire, Birmingham, Somerset, Glamorgan, Worcestershire
South Group: Surrey, Sussex, Kent, Middlesex, Essex, Hampshire
Each county plays the other teams in their group home and away - a total of 10 matches.
They will additionally play one home game against a county from outside their group and one away game against a side from another group.
The top two teams in each group plus the best two third-placed teams progress to the quarter-finals. The winners of the quarter-finals will progress to men's T20 Blast Finals Day."
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That T20 format is very dull and unimaginative. Mind you, so is the status quo. Once the 100 morphs into a T20 league I suspect the blast will become the equivalent of the 50 over competition.
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Apparently there is a board meeting Sunday, where the SGM is on the agenda .
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We invite you to a follow-up online webinar on Thursday 28 August (6:30pm), which will be the next opportunity to share the latest updates from the ECB alongside the Club?s stance on the proposed structure plans, as part of our ongoing efforts to gather feedback from all stakeholders, including Members.
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We invite you to a follow-up online webinar on Thursday 28 August (6:30pm), which will be the next opportunity to share the latest updates from the ECB alongside the Club?s stance on the proposed structure plans, as part of our ongoing efforts to gather feedback from all stakeholders, including Members.
Waffle. Just commit to implementing members? wishes.
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We invite you to a follow-up online webinar on Thursday 28 August (6:30pm), which will be the next opportunity to share the latest updates from the ECB alongside the Club?s stance on the proposed structure plans, as part of our ongoing efforts to gather feedback from all stakeholders, including Members.
Waffle. Just commit to implementing members? wishes.
I agree - I've been a member for over 50 years - none of the committee/board or players have been involved for so long. Essex is a members club ... .
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We invite you to a follow-up online webinar on Thursday 28 August (6:30pm), which will be the next opportunity to share the latest updates from the ECB alongside the Club?s stance on the proposed structure plans, as part of our ongoing efforts to gather feedback from all stakeholders, including Members.
Waffle. Just commit to implementing members? wishes.
Stalling tactics
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The word on the street is that the ECB have proposed a 13 game county championship. They are trying to 'peel away' some of the flakey counties into supporting this reduction from 14 games. Essex are one of the (snow) flakes.
There are SGMs taking place at Lanky and Notts to force their boards into voting in line with their members' views i.e. retain the status quo.
I urge all Essex members to keep up the pressure on Essex to vote for the status quo.
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Does the club know the majority views of the members, and how ?
Much to the annoyance of the Chairman, 250 members signatures had been collected for the retention of the status quo but that is only a small proportion of the overall .
So after tonight?s forum all members need to know the proposals and exactly how to register their views and votes .
Whatever the final outcome changes should only be made after NEXT season, has totally unfair on clubs, players and supporters to change the goalposts at the end of this season.
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When the petition was going round. Only a handful of useful idiots, refused to sign it.
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When the petition was going round. Only a handful of useful idiots, refused to sign it.
Many non members have access to what use to be non members area eg Tom Pearce stand, so they might have not been members whatsoever.
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We were asked to provide a membership number. In order that the non-members could be filtered out.
As 5% of the voting membership, is the trigger. It says a lot about the total number of members today. That, reaching this figure, was not difficult.
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Just to add to this discussion. I got the questionnaire and I?m not (yet) an Essex member?.
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Just to add to this discussion. I got the questionnaire and I?m not (yet) an Essex member?.
The questionnaire is freely available to anyone.