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Title: V Kent
Post by: stickyboy on June 10, 2014, 10:52:33 AM
Another big game tomo. Anyone planning to go or watching on Sky?

Can anyone clarify the format as its different to previous years. Is it the top 4 qualify with 2 top getting home ties?

Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: DT on June 10, 2014, 11:32:20 AM
Another big game tomo. Anyone planning to go or watching on Sky?

Can anyone clarify the format as its different to previous years. Is it the top 4 qualify with 2 top getting home ties?

Will watch this on tv as can't get away from work in time.

Should be a good game as Kent have started brightly also - cue a Stevo 50 and 4fer!

Top 4 from each group go through to the quarter-finals so yes I assume the top two in each group get the four home q/f's ?
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: nat on June 10, 2014, 11:47:10 AM
Another big game tomo. Anyone planning to go or watching on Sky?

Can anyone clarify the format as its different to previous years. Is it the top 4 qualify with 2 top getting home ties?

...Should be a good game as Kent have started brightly also - cue a Stevo 50 and 4fer!

...

Can't we nobble him?
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Andy on June 10, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
...Should be a good game as Kent have started brightly also - cue a Stevo 50 and 4fer!

...

Can't we nobble him?

Might be an opportunity for an evening out with Monty - although that could finish DS' season early.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: stickyboy on June 10, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
just checked the format and its:

The winner of each group will have a home match in the quarter-finals against the fourth team from the other group. The runner-ups from each group will play at home against the third placed team from the other group. The semi-finals will be a free draw from all the qualified teams.

I also think we only play Sussex and Somerset once in the group as opposed to all the others twice. Shame Hampshire wasnt one of them as they will win the group as usual.

Finals days is at Edgbaston on 23 August
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: DT on June 10, 2014, 01:49:47 PM
just checked the format and its:

The winner of each group will have a home match in the quarter-finals against the fourth team from the other group. The runner-ups from each group will play at home against the third placed team from the other group. The semi-finals will be a free draw from all the qualified teams.

I also think we only play Sussex and Somerset once in the group as opposed to all the others twice. Shame Hampshire wasnt one of them as they will win the group as usual.

Finals days is at Edgbaston on 23 August


Cheers Stickyboy - weren't finals day at Edgbaston last year too??
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: stickyboy on June 10, 2014, 02:38:16 PM
Cheers Stickyboy - weren't finals day at Edgbaston last year too??

yes same as last year. We went but left after Essex get mauled in the first match!
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Blocky on June 11, 2014, 07:01:42 AM
obviously need a win tonight!!!!!  What's the start time?
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: eastsax on June 11, 2014, 07:10:46 AM
What's the start time?

18.30
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: IlfordEagle on June 11, 2014, 09:15:36 AM
Big game for both teams as we both have 6 points & a chance to keep the pressure on Hants, a win tonight plus against Gloucs would set us up nicely.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: stickyboy on June 11, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
Essex 13 man squad is:

Mark Pettini, Jesse Ryder, Tom Westley, Ravi Bopara, Ryan ten Doeschate (Captain), Ben Foakes, James Foster (7), Tim Phillips,
Matt Salisbury, Reece Topley, Tymal Mills, Greg Smith, David Masters.

Kent 13 is:

Rob Key, Adam Ball, Daniel Bell-Drummond, Sam Billings (w), Alex Blake, Doug Bollinger, Mitch Claydon, Fabian Cowdrey, David Griffiths, Sam Northeast, Adam Riley, Darren Stevens, James Tredwell
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: DT on June 11, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
Essex 13 man squad is:

Mark Pettini, Jesse Ryder, Tom Westley, Ravi Bopara, Ryan ten Doeschate (Captain), Ben Foakes, James Foster (7), Tim Phillips,
Matt Salisbury, Reece Topley, Tymal Mills, Greg Smith, David Masters.

Kent 13 is:

Rob Key, Adam Ball, Daniel Bell-Drummond, Sam Billings (w), Alex Blake, Doug Bollinger, Mitch Claydon, Fabian Cowdrey, David Griffiths, Sam Northeast, Adam Riley, Darren Stevens, James Tredwell


I'd go with the same side as Surrey perhaps only bringing in Masters for Salisbury but Matt bowled well in that game and previous matches so deserves another crack.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: stickyboy on June 11, 2014, 11:21:31 AM
I'd go with the same side as Surrey perhaps only bringing in Masters for Salisbury but Matt bowled well in that game and previous matches so deserves another crack.

it does mention Salisbury is a doubt with a sore back, so you maybe right with Masters
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: nat on June 11, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
Essex 13 man squad is:

Mark Pettini, Jesse Ryder, Tom Westley, Ravi Bopara, Ryan ten Doeschate (Captain), Ben Foakes, James Foster (7), Tim Phillips,
Matt Salisbury, Reece Topley, Tymal Mills, Greg Smith, David Masters.

Kent's 1 is:

......, Darren Stevens, ......

Cue haunting music
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Blocky on June 11, 2014, 12:16:54 PM
What's the start time?

18.30

thank you sir...

pizza ordered, beer in fridge, wife is out......bring it on
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: nat on June 11, 2014, 06:22:44 PM
One word for Mills ...
...
unforgiveable.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Andy on June 11, 2014, 06:40:39 PM
One word for Mills ...
...
unforgiveable.

Then two wickets. Funny old game T20.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: stickyboy on June 11, 2014, 08:15:37 PM
superb chase by Essex. Great stuff!
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: nat on June 11, 2014, 08:16:40 PM
One word for Mills ...
...
unforgiveable.

Then two wickets. Funny old game T20.

Still unforgiveable. Great win, well done to the batters. Key's face at the end was a picture.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: ytsejam on June 11, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
Well done to the team (well, the batters anyway) for a superb victory tonight. Desperately need to tighten up with the ball and in the field though as we can't expect to keep scoring nearly 200 each match to win. Also looks like Masters might be injured again (judging by the way he was shaking hands at the end) so lets hope its nothing too bad.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: afinetickletoleg on June 11, 2014, 09:32:51 PM
I bet Diatribe's face was the equal of Key's given the contribution of his two favourite players.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: IlfordEagle on June 11, 2014, 09:36:10 PM
A well judged run chase & an excellent victory against our old rivals (so sweet ), not the greatest in the field & some of the bowling very wayward - Mills again but to be fair when he bowled straight & within the crease he did well & also started the period when we applied the brakes. Kent really should have got 210/215 & I was worried when our nemesis got Pettini 3rd ball but a fabulous innings from Ravi (at last in a big game for us) well supported by Ryder until the runout, & Tendo.
Afterwards Key could have been a little more gracious & given Essex some credit ..but he never has & never will!!
If we win the next 2 we will be in a strong position, COYE!!!
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: DT on June 11, 2014, 10:29:31 PM
Great win and Ravi again showing his class to his critics!

As for Key, what a sore loser!  Didn't mention the dreadful bowling from their England spinner and overseas pro and the dropped catches!!
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Diatribe on June 11, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
I bet Diatribe's face was the equal of Key's given the contribution of his two favourite players.

I don't follow 20 over cricket, Trickle, but by your remark, I presume they did well. If indeed you are referring to Tendoeschate and Bopara, I'd have no objections whatsoever with ECCC employing them on a pay as you play basis in limited over cricket, as indeed Hamps. have done this season with Shah.

They'd be excellent acquisitions on that basis where one would expect them to excel in a format in which they specialise whilst of course being available to play.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Blocky on June 12, 2014, 06:57:47 AM
Rob Key.  W     Anchor. FACT.


Always will be.


What a lovely evening. :)
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: squarelegumpire on June 12, 2014, 07:09:06 AM
Great win and Ravi again showing his class to his critics!

As for Key, what a sore loser!  Didn't mention the dreadful bowling from their England spinner and overseas pro and the dropped catches!!

Thought he did mention the dropped catches.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: eastsax on June 12, 2014, 07:36:49 AM
Great win and Ravi again showing his class to his critics!

As for Key, what a sore loser!  Didn't mention the dreadful bowling from their England spinner and overseas pro and the dropped catches!!

Thought he did mention the dropped catches.

Unless I misheard and it was cupcakes, I thought that I heard him acknowledge the dropped catches too.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: DT on June 12, 2014, 08:24:03 AM
Great win and Ravi again showing his class to his critics!

As for Key, what a sore loser!  Didn't mention the dreadful bowling from their England spinner and overseas pro and the dropped catches!!

Thought he did mention the dropped catches.

Unless I misheard and it was cupcakes, I thought that I heard him acknowledge the dropped catches too.


He barely mentioned them!
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: firehazard on June 12, 2014, 08:51:27 AM
Great win and Ravi again showing his class to his critics!

As for Key, what a sore loser!  Didn't mention the dreadful bowling from their England spinner and overseas pro and the dropped catches!!

Thought he did mention the dropped catches.

Unless I misheard and it was cupcakes, I thought that I heard him acknowledge the dropped catches too.

Didn't realise some cupcakes had been dropped. That explains why Key looked so upset.

Great win. Well done, Essex.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: stickyboy on June 12, 2014, 08:55:27 AM
Although Mills bowled 3 no balls meaning free hits as well still ended up with 3-41, although i suspect he will be with the coach today making sure no more no balls are bowled as they are very rare in modern T20 cricket. Masters was most economical with just 23 from his 4 overs which is great considering they got 189
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: gully on June 12, 2014, 09:33:03 AM
. Masters was most economical with just 23 from his 4 overs which is great considering they got 189

unfortunately Tendo couldn't quite lose him in the field though, where he gave away a further 23 runs
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: DT on June 12, 2014, 11:24:12 AM
Although Mills bowled 3 no balls meaning free hits as well still ended up with 3-41, although i suspect he will be with the coach today making sure no more no balls are bowled as they are very rare in modern T20 cricket. Masters was most economical with just 23 from his 4 overs which is great considering they got 189


Think Nick Knight summed-up Mills well afterwards - he'll get you wickets but needs to work on a few things - fortunately the free hits didn't make any difference!

When Napier is fit who does he replace?  I guess Masters or one of Westley/Foakes ?
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Andy on June 12, 2014, 11:28:30 AM
And as Sir Richard Hadlee once said, if you want to avoid no-balls, shorten (not lengthen) your run up a yard!
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Blocky on June 12, 2014, 11:34:39 AM
tough one here.  Personally, I'd be looking at hoddy and asking him to play champs/50 overs only unless we're short, and ask him to help Ty and Reece on their length/accuracy..nothing major, just a little mentoring stuff.  And to work with Salisbury/Moore as well.  Just assist Silverwood and keep fresh for the longer formats.  He's earned that.  (But he'll have loved that win last night over Kent..big style!)

Napes is fit, he's back in for me.  Not as economical as DM in T20, but he's90 mph of the short run, better in the field and can bat.  can properly bat....

Given Tymal's abilty with the bat, we're going down to nine with people that clear the boundary.  it's a very very strong team.

My Hampshire pal (and he's a really good bloke) was very impressed with our batting last night. 
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: bwildered on June 12, 2014, 06:10:24 PM
Great win and still room for improvement, with Mills run up problems and Westley running out Ryder and then getting out himself, straight after, leaving two new batsman in . But has RTD stated, it's up to the senior players to come good at  the right time, (and still had Fozzie still to bat ). But still fantastic result neverless.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: Blocky on June 13, 2014, 07:25:33 AM
I'd agree with Nick Knight here though, I though Tom's knock was excellent and he's hitting the ball really well.  fingers crossed he continues to do so.
Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: IlfordEagle on June 13, 2014, 09:23:59 AM
tough one here.  Personally, I'd be looking at hoddy and asking him to play champs/50 overs only unless we're short, and ask him to help Ty and Reece on their length/accuracy..nothing major, just a little mentoring stuff.  And to work with Salisbury/Moore as well.  Just assist Silverwood and keep fresh for the longer formats.  He's earned that.  (But he'll have loved that win last night over Kent..big style!)

Napes is fit, he's back in for me.  Not as economical as DM in T20, but he's90 mph of the short run, better in the field and can bat.  can properly bat....

Absolutely right, Masters has to be wrapped in cotton wool, looked after & most importantly not over bowled. If he can help the other bowlers & pass on bits of advice here & there then so much the better.

Title: Re: V Kent
Post by: bwildered on June 13, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
Yes, scored runs playing  some proper cricket shots rather than trying to knock the cover off the ball .  Saw him talking to KWRF, during the last championship game at Chelmsford , so might had sought some excellent advice .