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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: dazedpenguin on June 11, 2025, 08:25:30 PM
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Well at least Jordan Cox is back.
Harmer, Allison, Amir, Benkenstein, Cook, Cox, Critchley, Das, Elgar, Pepper, Rossington, Snater, Thain, Walter
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What I don't get is, why did Porter and Westley play yesterday and do well and then are left out of a failing squad?
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What I don't get is, why did Porter and Westley play yesterday and do well and then are left out of a failing squad?
Maybe just to give them something to do while waiting for the next Championship round?
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What I don't get is, why did Porter and Westley play yesterday and do well and then are left out of a failing squad?
Agreed. JP bowled excellently. Westley batted ok.
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What I don't get is, why did Porter and Westley play yesterday and do well and then are left out of a failing squad?
Sign of a regime who haven't a clue?
Odd given previous success at the club, but no bowling coach still, odd selection , (no thain in his best format, yet playing in his weaker one as a 4th seamer) and terrible results, many due to attitude/decisions rather than ability/talent.
Who knows.
Edit to add a regime who apparently is interested in Bashir. If that's doesn't sum up the jumping of the shark by the club I don't know what does. Crazy unless harmer and critchley are leaving
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What I don't get is, why did Porter and Westley play yesterday and do well and then are left out of a failing squad?
Cox is back, Das and Thain are already in the squad and so would be ahead of Westley in the pecking order. Porter may well play when Cook goes off to England.
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Siddle is bowling coach on a short term contract. Porter and Westley were playing against 2nd eleven players, so difficult to judge. Porter has rarely been effective in T20 in previous years, but we don't have much else. The seconds lost yesterday at Southend.
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The Glamorgan commentators, in the previous game. Mentioned, a few times, the unhappy body language of some of the Essex fielders.
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The Glamorgan commentators, in the previous game. Mentioned, a few times, the unhappy body language of some of the Essex fielders.
Been saying it all season in the 4 day game. Even at Trent bridge when we had various spells on top and in seasons past would have forced a win with the same players
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I thought that the way Glamorgan were pacing their innings, without taking any big risks. Essex had given up and were accepting the inevitable.
Of course an Essex bowler, could have done a Pat Pocock and taken seven wickets in 11 balls. With a run out for another wicket as well.
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Essex win the toss and put Glamorgan in. Cox comes in for Allison.
Rossington, Elgar, Pepper, Cox, Walter, Critchley, Benkenstein, Harmer, Snater, Amir, Cook
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Fortress Chelmsford ::)
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Is there a live stream for this?
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Where's the crowd gone?!
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I have found a stream. It is very popular in the subcontinent, going by the chat.
Ball hit straight up in the air and three Essex fielders, shout yours.
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So the only stream, has been taken over to advertise an Indian newspaper and Chandigrah University. If Essex thinks, it will encourage people to buy tickets. That worked well, didn't it.
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Is there a live stream for this?
It's on Sky Sports cricket. Sometimes they make them free to view on their YouTube channel, but not this time it seems.
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I inquired about Now TV. They said it was ?20. Here is your access and your ?20.
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The crowd number is disastrous. Whoever decided to jack up the prices and double up with the women's game should be sacked.
Go woke go broke.
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Amir has just put one down. The commentator asked, why is someone not fully mobile at Backward Point?
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The crowd number is disastrous. Whoever decided to jack up the prices and double up with the women's game should be sacked.
Go woke go broke.
Maybe because it's on a Thursday night? And the team hasn't been performing well. Were tickets still available today? It may be that the tickets have been sold and people are just staying at home.
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Dominic Cork on commentary: "The good news for Essex is that there are now 4 points for a win". They have to actually get a win first.
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Dominic Cork on commentary: "The good news for Essex is that there are now 4 points for a win". They have to actually get a win first.
The whole atmosphere (players/crowd) is poor.
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The Trumpet has just raised a half-hearted cheer. Play it again and announce all together now or not at all.
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221 would be the biggest ever Essex chase in a T20. Cox and Pepper would need to do something incredible to get anywhere near.
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I think that a total eclipse of the sun is more likely.
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At the 14/15 over mark it looked like we'd done a good job of reining them in, but some very poor bowling in the final overs has enabled them to rack up 220. Sam Cook should not be bowling at the death in these games, a strange choice from Harmer.
On recent form you wouldn't back us to chase anywhere near 220 but hope springs eternal.
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Not seen a crowd this bad for T20 in a long time. Saw the prices combined with how crap the team are and it all makes sense. Why would anyone pay for this garbage when they can pay half the price for some Hundred cricket in August.
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I am going to get a job with Essex for T20 security. As the chucker in.
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Anyone would think that the Essex management have done this deliberately to make the *undred look good.
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Laughably predictable.
0 consequences for a crap performances same team bar Cox. There must be players in the leagues who can do no worse and would be cheap as chips as our seamers and some of the batsmen. Especially big boy. Waste of space.
Cox won't stick around long if we are not competing.
Something very wrong at the club, Elgar coming late despite the protestations on here in defence of it, lack of overseas planning, no bowling coach, players underperforming, letting games slip when in previous years would have won, terrible body language most of the season. Something ain't right.
And maybe I missed it but whats the cc os situation. I'm sure rajitha has played his allotted games about haven't seen a good bye or news of a replacement. We better not re sign him. Maybe I mssed it but again smacks of the current unprofessionalism at the club and harka back to the horror days of east/grayson
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At the 14/15 over mark it looked like we'd done a good job of reining them in, but some very poor bowling in the final overs has enabled them to rack up 220. Sam Cook should not be bowling at the death in these games, a strange choice from Harmer.
On recent form you wouldn't back us to chase anywhere near 220 but hope springs eternal.
You can see why Westley gets no help captaincy wise...or more likely he does why it's so bad Senior pros bar Elgar aren't the sharpest tacks.
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Walter's kryptonite strikes again. A disgrace that a batting pro for 10 years hasn't got a clue against spinners.
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The streams have been taken down.
I hope Essex will try and get somewhere near to stop the net run rate getting worse.
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The streams have been taken down.
I hope Essex will try and get somewhere near to stop the net run rate getting worse.
Why? You don't think we'll qualify do you?!
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It might help in not receiving the Wooden Spoon.
They should give it, to a former committee member as the biggest stirrer
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Our team have become an embarrassment. Not just losing every game, but thrashed in every game. Don?t think there is a team bad enough in our division for us to beat. We will do well to keep Benkenstein here.
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Tonight from around the 15th over of the Glamorgan innings. You knew who was going to win.
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Middlesex's record low of 1 win is looking under threat.
They might as well give Richards and Thain a go and bring back Allison for Rossington.
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Middlesex's record low of 1 win is looking under threat.
They might as well give Richards and Thain a go and bring back Allison for Rossington.
Yep time to replace the old guard.
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For the fifth match in a row that was utterly embarrassing and useless. The only bright spot was Benkenstein (wonder where him and Cox will be playing next season?!)
Still, expect to see the same 11 tomorrow night! Rossington should only be playing in the semi professional leagues now, at best!
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Our team have become an embarrassment. Not just losing every game, but thrashed in every game. Don?t think there is a team bad enough in our division for us to beat. We will do well to keep Benkenstein here.
Never mind him, we'll do well to keep Pepper and Cox here an all. Bet Pepper cannot wait to get out.
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Another dreadful performance from Essex. Outplayed in every aspect.
Crowd/atmosphere dreadful by the looks of things.
With the exception of Cox returning, nothing changes.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.
Changes need to be made.
Short term plan (with effect from tomorrow and for the rest of the tournament)[/b][/b]
Drop Amir, Rossington and Elgar.
Play Thain, Das and Allison.
Long term plan (for next season)
Harmer gets red ball contract only - poor captaincy and average performances
Same for Elgar
Rossington is moved on. No contract to be offered.
Captaincy to Pepper (Assume Cox/Cook will have international calls)
Club looks to recruit two overseas early. Go for young/hungry players who are maybe not that well known, but will give it a go. May or may not come off, but better than the ageing overseas.
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Another dreadful performance from Essex. Outplayed in every aspect.
Crowd/atmosphere dreadful by the looks of things.
With the exception of Cox returning, nothing changes.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.
Changes need to be made.
Short term plan (with effect from tomorrow and for the rest of the tournament)[/b][/b]
Drop Amir, Rossington and Elgar.
Play Thain, Das and Allison.
Long term plan (for next season)
Harmer gets red ball contract only - poor captaincy and average performances
Same for Elgar
Rossington is moved on. No contract to be offered.
Captaincy to Pepper (Assume Cox/Cook will have international calls)
Club looks to recruit two overseas early. Go for young/hungry players who are maybe not that well known, but will give it a go. May or may not come off, but better than the ageing overseas.
Hard to disagree although can't see cook having an international commitments post this season. Rossinginton has become a joke. He's never done it for us but it's laughable now.
2 domestic seamers needed
Depending on harmers salary (if it's huge) serious consideration needs to be given to retaining him if money is needed elsewhere. A travesty to some and will no doubt get the usual suspects on me but ever diminishing returns year in year, although he's overbowled but increasingly feel he has a big say in that and it's not just Westley doing that , means the cost benefit needs to be looked at. We are skint and have big needs elsewhere whereas we have some back up in spin and would make the Bashir rumors have some logic.
No doubt harmer would be snapped up elsewhere but if he's on massive wages then the wider needs of the club needs to be thought of. Wouldn't have dreamt of saying that at his peak but last 3 seasons have seen a drop off each time which is understandable given age.
That said I'm becoming disillusioned in critch. Maybe not backed up by fact but seems to only score runs when it's easy and rarely when needed, appreciate he batted long Vs Yorks, and his T20 form is poor and hasn't been great since he's been here. Chronically under bowled in 4 day cricket though.
Re OS look at how well Caleb Jewell is doing at derbys, singlehandedly lifting them to 2nd spot. Yes he might struggle in div 1 but the hungry younger player route when you have limited funds makes far more sense than Thakur who may not have put his all in given hes a T20 mercenary for hire generally or a no better than Richards rajitha type.
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Agreed.
May as well write off this campaign and blood younger players.
I would get Richards in as well. Can't be worse than Amir. Can also bat, field and catch.
Pepper with the captaincy might just keep him at the club.
Harmy is a legend. Still first on the team sheet for red ball, but I think his white ball days are over.
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All the defeats have been by fairly large margins. Including the game at Cardiff, where, although it went to one over left. Glamorgan were able to time it easily, to meet their game plan.
I will miss the game this evening. I expect to see the result, that Sussex have had Essex for toast.
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Everyone bowled far to short, ok if you have an extra pace attack, and relied far to much for skiers from top edges in getting wickets . Forty runs short, needed one of the top three to score a hundred to be there or about . Cox played several class shots, then played the worst shot of the innings . Beckenstein showed lots of promise.
Simply outclassed in all departments .
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Sadly I think we can all have a pretty good guess at the result of the game against Sussex tonight and how it will go !!
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The unofficial stream of the game, was ended by the host. Chandigrath University must have been embarrassed by Essex CCC.