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Title: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 29, 2025, 03:05:48 PM
Squad:

Harmer, Allison, Amir, Benkenstein, Cook, Critchley, Das, Elgar, Pepper, Richards, Rossington, Snater, Thain, Walter

Interesting to see the XI from that.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: JasonP on May 29, 2025, 03:25:49 PM
Squad:

Harmer, Allison, Amir, Benkenstein, Cook, Critchley, Das, Elgar, Pepper, Richards, Rossington, Snater, Thain, Walter

Interesting to see the XI from that.

Richards is playing for the 2nds today and no one else in the squad is.  I would guess he'll play when Cook is unavailable.  Don't see Das playing either.  Whether Walter can bowl may be decisive if he can't they may pick Thain rather than Benkenstein.

Probably be

Rossington
Elgar
Pepper
Allison
Walter
Critchley
Benkenstein/Thain
Harmer
Snater
Amir
Cook

Snater should bat ahead of Harmer but never does.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2025, 05:40:25 PM
Playing XI: Rossington, Elgar, Pepper, Walter, Allison, Critchley, Benkenstein, Harmer, Snater, Amir, Cook

Looks like they expect Walter to bowl a few overs then.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2025, 05:53:37 PM
Essex won the toss and put Hampshire in.

Hampshire: Vince, Albert, Prest, Weatherley, Brevis, Fuller, Howell, Dawson, C. Wood, Currie, Turner
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: vim on May 30, 2025, 06:20:27 PM
Well, Westley keeping Amir on, so that he could get Vince out. He did not, did he.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: vim on May 30, 2025, 06:29:07 PM
Snater on. Five bowlers in eight overs. Ringing the changes, or re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: flyboy845 on May 30, 2025, 06:29:13 PM
Well, Westley keeping Amir on, so that he could get Vince out. He did not, did he.

Except that Westley isn't the T20 captain, or even playing...
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: vim on May 30, 2025, 06:34:02 PM
I am demonstrating my total lack of interest for this rubbish Cricket, that panders to the lowest common denominator.

I have this on the background, whilst I am doing other things.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: flyboy845 on May 30, 2025, 06:54:41 PM
I have this on the background, whilst I am doing other things.

It can't be that bad then!
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: nat on May 30, 2025, 07:25:29 PM
Someone please tell Walter to give up on the bowling.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: nat on May 30, 2025, 08:36:10 PM
For future games they should bat Snater at no. 4.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: Perov on May 30, 2025, 09:22:56 PM
Our 4th largest defeat  in our T20 history. 
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: ytsejam1 on May 30, 2025, 09:36:58 PM
Oops......Very poor......Outclassed!!

'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: Reddevil on May 30, 2025, 10:15:50 PM
I only get to see Essex.live two or three times a season, as I live within five miles of the ground, and on this performance I am not missing much.
Contrast two overseas players.
Amir for Essex. Brevis for Hampshire.
Amir, ageing, well past his best as a fast bowler and filleted expertly by Vince in his opening overs.
Brevis, emerging quickly as a global  powerhouse batsman, smashing his first ballfor six, before a quickfile fifty odd of only 22 ball, I think. What a signing, maybe the signing of the season.
Boundaries - Hampshire hit them, Essex did not.
We were comfortably out batted and out bowled but not outfielded with Hampshire dropping three catches. We bowled either too full or two short.
Hampshire were gifted a dream start through Vince?s dismantling of Amir in particular. Cook fared little better, bowling too straight and being picked off superbly by Vince whose driving shone
out like a beacon. What a player he is.
Before we could blink Hampshire had amassed 50 runs off five overs and never looked back.
A suicidal run out of Elgar in first over and we never recovered with run rate required climbing every over.
I left when Critchley lobbed a catch and on my way back to the car heard at least three more wickets fall. Run rate over 16.
If you do not leave early you are likely to be caught up in the most illdisciplined, unmarshalled rush for the exit and can take nearly an hour to get out.
Hampshire are a formidable side especially at home. They have a well balanced side covering every base.
Essex?s fragility was expertly exposed.
Pepper frankly looked out of his depth batting at three, flailing away scoring several lucky boundaries courtesy of his bat?s edge through slip and short third man areas. Our shot selection was rustic, too often hitting across the line and aerial, no doubt governed by scoreboard pressure.
Hampshire will be well to the fore I suspect.
For Essex a long angst ridden summer ahead.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: stewyww on May 31, 2025, 06:28:20 AM
Someone please tell Walter to give up on the bowling.
And Snater
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: honkytonk on May 31, 2025, 06:58:34 AM
I get the point about the OS players, but lets be honest, like our Sri Lankan.....Amir was prob all we could afford.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: nat on May 31, 2025, 08:02:43 AM
I get the point about the OS players, but lets be honest, like our Sri Lankan.....Amir was prob all we could afford.

The squad strength of teams like Hants, Slurry, Ciderset...compared to little ol' Essex is chalk/cheese. We're going nowhere in this compo for a while I think.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: Crisp on May 31, 2025, 08:05:10 AM
We look short in all areas but its the bowling that really lets us down, perhaps new coach Siddle will help, however that remains a distant hope?
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 31, 2025, 08:09:16 AM
Vince and Brevis have just got back from playing in the PSL and IPL respectively and they looked a class above anyone else. 6 of the Hampshire players haven't been playing in the Championship (only Albert, Prest, Dawson, Turner and Fuller have), while for Essex only Rossington, Amir and Benkenstein haven't been on the Championship treadmill.

It could be a long Blast season, but then if they beat Somerset tomorrow everything will look a lot better.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: JasonP on May 31, 2025, 08:49:11 AM
Vince and Brevis have just got back from playing in the PSL and IPL respectively and they looked a class above anyone else. 6 of the Hampshire players haven't been playing in the Championship (only Albert, Prest, Dawson, Turner and Fuller have), while for Essex only Rossington, Amir and Benkenstein haven't been on the Championship treadmill.

It could be a long Blast season, but then if they beat Somerset tomorrow everything will look a lot better.

I suspect we'll struggle this season but we always lose at the Rose Bowl and we always lose home and away to Somerset aswell so 2 losses to start the competition looked likely before it started.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: CostaDelEssex on May 31, 2025, 08:57:16 AM
Is Cox still injured or away with the Lions?

That really was a piss poor performance, completely abject. Massive reliance on Pepper to get big runs - and he looked badly out of touch last night too.

Onwards and upwards...
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: kingstonj1 on May 31, 2025, 09:45:40 AM
Os batsmen win T20 games been said multiple seasons, yet we keep signing bowlers.

Bowlers can influence 4 overs batsmen in theory 20.

Yes our bowlings crap but 2 decent os bats you back yourself to chase whatever or score enough even with our dud bowlers we have a chance of defending.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: honkytonk on May 31, 2025, 10:25:59 AM
I get the point about the OS players, but lets be honest, like our Sri Lankan.....Amir was prob all we could afford.

The squad strength of teams like Hants, Slurry, Ciderset...compared to little ol' Essex is chalk/cheese. We're going nowhere in this compo for a while I think.

But again, look at the budgets.  Basically, we just can't compete financially.

We lost Sams to Notts, prime example
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: ytsejam1 on May 31, 2025, 10:57:34 AM
Os batsmen win T20 games been said multiple seasons, yet we keep signing bowlers.

Bowlers can influence 4 overs batsmen in theory 20.

Yes our bowlings crap but 2 decent os bats you back yourself to chase whatever or score enough even with our dud bowlers we have a chance of defending.

Agree totally. You can argue that after just one match, Hampshire's OS batsman has already won more matches than our OS bowler will in 16 matches!
How many games will Amir win for us this season with his bowling?....I'll wager none!
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: JasonP on May 31, 2025, 11:22:25 AM
Os batsmen win T20 games been said multiple seasons, yet we keep signing bowlers.

Bowlers can influence 4 overs batsmen in theory 20.

Yes our bowlings crap but 2 decent os bats you back yourself to chase whatever or score enough even with our dud bowlers we have a chance of defending.

Agree totally. You can argue that after just one match, Hampshire's OS batsman has already won more matches than our OS bowler will in 16 matches!
How many games will Amir win for us this season with his bowling?....I'll wager none!

Not sure they had a lot of choice.  They play Walter plus 3 seamers in the T20 side.  They only have 5 on the staff, one of which is Cook who is not going to be around for much of it.  Porter is 32 and has played all 7 matches in the CC and they'll want to rest him.  That just leaves Snater, Richards and Jones if they don't get an overseas seamer in.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: kingstonj1 on May 31, 2025, 01:07:58 PM
The kids could do no worse than the senior bowlers in getting slaughtered tbh. Richards, Jones, thain, someone from the leagues on short term deals. Couldn't really do worse than our seamers in most games I'd wager.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: honkytonk on May 31, 2025, 01:26:04 PM
Jones is away with Scotland I think (I like the look of him).

Richards couldn't get into the awful Kent side for his second game on loan (think he only bowled 9 overs in his first game?)
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: JasonP on May 31, 2025, 01:28:45 PM
The kids could do no worse than the senior bowlers in getting slaughtered tbh. Richards, Jones, thain, someone from the leagues on short term deals. Couldn't really do worse than our seamers in most games I'd wager.

Richards and Thain regularly get smashed worse in 2nd T20 cricket.  Both have a tendency to bowl no balls aswell.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: kingstonj1 on May 31, 2025, 03:01:18 PM
The kids could do no worse than the senior bowlers in getting slaughtered tbh. Richards, Jones, thain, someone from the leagues on short term deals. Couldn't really do worse than our seamers in most games I'd wager.

Richards and Thain regularly get smashed worse in 2nd T20 cricket.  Both have a tendency to bowl no balls aswell.

Worse than 10, 11, 12 and over?

Well get some dinners from the EAPL and EPL in then.other clubs do it.

Really we are clutching at straws with the frontline seamers and getting hammered may as well try something different and get some decent os bats in next time.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: paulcm on May 31, 2025, 03:05:48 PM
Hants would have known that Snater was the one most likely to break a key partnership,by getting (a ) top batsman/men out. They decided to try and hit him out of the attack and got away with it because we took the bait and took him off after  just the one over.
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: Reddevil on May 31, 2025, 04:48:40 PM
Assessing all these post match comments, the cupboard looks bare with little hope of restocking.
Checking out many other sides and their os players in particular they all look dauntingly strong(at least on paper).
The lack of young Asian talent emerging from the East London boroughs is indeed worrying, but is cricket as popular there now as it once was.
The lack of money seems to be accounting for many of our problems with little hope on the horizon. We need an Indian benefactor maybe. 😎😎😎😎
Title: Re: Hampshire (A), 2025
Post by: Andy on June 01, 2025, 09:18:08 AM
Assessing all these post match comments, the cupboard looks bare with little hope of restocking.
Checking out many other sides and their os players in particular they all look dauntingly strong(at least on paper).
The lack of young Asian talent emerging from the East London boroughs is indeed worrying, but is cricket as popular there now as it once was.
The lack of money seems to be accounting for many of our problems with little hope on the horizon. We need an Indian benefactor maybe. 😎😎😎😎

Be careful covering anything remotely racial.