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Cricket => England ODI => Topic started by: bwildered on June 08, 2024, 05:07:43 PM
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Wash out for England against McDonalds, now need some home runs against them from Down Under .
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David Warner?got to love him. What a decent chap.
Just two thoughts that don?t go through my mind.
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Well that wasn't great. Buttler shouldn't captain and keep wicket. Let Salt or Bairstow take the gloves. England will struggle to get out of the group now, but will probably just manage it on run rate. If Scotland qualify instead then we'll never hear the end of it.
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At least they can?t continue with this shambles at the ECB. It?s been downhill for a couple of years now. Shows how much we missed Owain Morgan, who was clearly the responsible adult in the dressing room. We have a chance to get out of the group but that?ll be about it.
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A typical Bazball defeat. Looks completely horrible when it goes wrong. Won the toss and fielded because were not sure how the wicket was to play. By the time they found out the game had passed them by.
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Highly entertaining 10/10 last group game for England. On a stodgy track which swung and seamed thought it was refreshing to see players showing there skills, particularly the batters. Must more enjoyable than the now all to familiar slogfeast of boundaries every delivery.
England now have a better run rate than Scotland. Who is going to turn up for that final fixture, which surely should have been played concurrently too avoid a set up. Even the weather could still have an influence in the result still !
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Near perfect display by England against the hosts. Only blemish was ten wides, but strangely bowling that many thwarted any rhythm the Windies might get to progress to a decent score.
Chasing 180 was not easy, but top order did it with ease by not losing rapid top order wickets. Perhaps McGrath might show Essex top order on how to behave.
Salt and Archer two standouts, followed by Bairstow and the usual Rashid.
Strange to see Windies bowling more spin than pace, who would have thought .
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Might be speaking too soon here, but based on that performance the Aussies chasing down 89 from 7 overs against Scotland may well go down as the worst decision they've made since Ponting bowled first in 2005.
Salt's knock was brilliant. Just bided his time before picking his bowler and taking 30 off him to ice the chase. Bit like Gregory against us at Taunton. You think you're in control as the bowling side...until you ain't.
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Yes SirC, good teams have somebody in the locker who turn ties around, even in Championship games, where not knocking a guy over in the final stages can go against you and see sides home in close matches.
Best England had played in white ball for some time, must admit Bairstow was on my radar to be replaced several games ago, glad he has proved me incorrect, what do I know !
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Salt has improved massively over the last couple of years. I?m not quite sure that England can win the comp with this team. They are a batsman short atleast. Moeen and Livingstone at 5 and 6 don?t inspire confidence at all and we have a long tail. We?re very reliant on either Salt and Buttler getting a big score.
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Salt has improved massively over the last couple of years. I?m not quite sure that England can win the comp with this team. They are a batsman short atleast. Moeen and Livingstone at 5 and 6 don?t inspire confidence at all and we have a long tail. We?re very reliant on either Salt and Buttler getting a big score.
Sadly proved true today. When Moeen Ali was a decent batsman he used to bat at 7. Now he's well, well past his best he gets to bat at 3 and 4. I know match ups in T20 are often a big part of that but he's no longer any good. Livingstone, Ali and Curran is atleast 1 bits and pieces player too many when you have 4 guys at the bottom who offer little as T20 batsmen.
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Dug ourselves into a hole with the top order, wasting deliveries and then getting out. If one of Livingstone or Brooks, who both got us back into the game, had been there at the end, the out come would have been different.
Good game though, with both sides having good and bad spells. Another interesting low score contest with fine margins.
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Aussies out, Afghanistan through. Obviously I can speak on behalf of everyone on here and commiserate?oh no, can?t resist ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Does anyone care about this tourney? Really?
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Does anyone care about this tourney? Really?
Look at David Warner?s crestfallen face.
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India are the best team in this tournament by a mile and the whole tournament has been pretty much catered to them by the ICC but the people that run this England team are incredibly inept. To have a top 6 that has both Moeen Ali and Sam Curran in it is bordering on farcical. Moeen has done nothing in white ball cricket for years and Curran is at best a number 8. Playing bits and pieces players in conditions made for a brilliant bowling attack is never going to work.
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Cupboard now pretty empty internationally, ex 50 and 20 over champions and no urn, in our possession.
Perhaps Mr Key would like to explain are inaccuracies.
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England captain Jos Buttler promised a thorough review will take place after his side's up-and-down T20 World Cup that ended with a semi-final thrashing at the hands of India.
Another review ?
Lost badly to the decent sides, blitzed the also rans. Really have gone from Champs to Chumps in white ball cricket. Cannot recall Mr Key putting this scenario on his introduction , or did I miss something.
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Seems obvious to me that Buttler should not be captain of this or any other side. He is a sensitive soul, which might be an appealing personal quality, but it also means he's far too easily affected by personal or team failure to be a captain. Despite his record as one of the world's leading white-ball players, he's now gone through 50 and 20 over world cups with very few meaningful batting contributions. His demolition of the USA bowlers was his only significant innings in this tournament. Someone else (admittedly I'm not sure who) needs to take the captaincy and free him up to do what he has done so well in the past.
More generally there's an obvious need for a changing of the guard and the promotion of new blood. It's telling that the only England batsmen to have had a half-decent tournament were Salt and Brook, new generation players. Brook actually looked the most capable and level-headed of the middle order, which is quite an indictment of the much more experienced players around him. If Livingstone stays in the side he needs to bat higher up - we'll never find out what he can do if he's locked into in this role where he mostly only bats in the final few overs.
The bowling was better than the batting (not saying much, I know) - Rashid was outstanding but must be near the end now, and Archer exceeded expectations given his long lay-off. Wood was disappointing, just too wild. Jordan's hat-trick in Barbados was a great feelgood moment, but I've never been convinced that he's truly international class, and even if he ever was, he must also be at the end.
India and SA have been the best teams by a country mile and fully deserve to be in the final. Everyone seems to think India will waltz it but SA have looked very impressive, repeatedly winning through in tense finishes.. maybe it's finally their time.
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India and SA have been the best teams by a country mile and fully deserve to be in the final. Everyone seems to think India will waltz it but SA have looked very impressive, repeatedly winning through in tense finishes.. maybe it's finally their time.
India have looked several classes above anyone else. SA struggled against Nepal, Bangladesh and Holland. SA could easily have lost to England whereas India thrashed them out of sight. India did this in the 50 over world cup where they dominated until losing the Final but they do look vastly superior to everyone else.
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Great final. Probably some will see it as another choke by SA but the Indian pacemen, particularly Bumrah, were phenomenal in those final overs. Sensational catch in the final over too.
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Agree good final, with SA once on par with deliveries / runs looking nailed on four overs out, but the Indians, just like the game against Pakistan, bowled and fielded themselves to victory with Bumrah outstanding.
Good tournament with underdogs getting results amongst the elite and bowlers showing theirs skills on pitches more responsive, than the boring batters heaven.
And England, Wood, Bairstow and Mo this must be the last T20.
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Bumrah was outstanding and that catch from SKY was exceptional. I really enjoyed that final, probably even more for the absence of England. But this may haunt another generation of South African players. They were 97% to win on the win predictor at one stage.
I'd agree that this is probably the last T20I for Mo, Bairstow and Wood (and Jordan), probably Rashid as well (much as though I hope he continues). Probably the end as captain for Buttler and Mott as coach. No idea who the next captain could be though.
I can't wait for the return of test cricket though. It's almost here.