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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2024, 09:09:33 AM

Title: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2024, 09:09:33 AM
On the off chance there will be some play (more likely for Somerset on Friday). Same squad for both games. I didn't expect to see Elgar there. No Snater, Porter or Khushi.

Harmer, Ben Allison, Charlie Allison, Beard, Benkenstein, Cox, Critchley, Das, Elgar, Pepper, Richards, Rossington, Sams, Thain, Walter

Maybe the XI will be something like: Pepper, Rossington, Das, Cox, Critchley, Walter, Sams, Benkenstein/ Richards, Harmer, Allison, Beard
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: JasonP on May 30, 2024, 09:26:40 AM
On the off chance there will be some play (more likely for Somerset on Friday). Same squad for both games. I didn't expect to see Elgar there. No Snater, Porter or Khushi.

Harmer, Ben Allison, Charlie Allison, Beard, Benkenstein, Cox, Critchley, Das, Elgar, Pepper, Richards, Rossington, Sams, Thain, Walter

Maybe the XI will be something like: Pepper, Rossington, Das, Cox, Critchley, Walter, Sams, Benkenstein/ Richards, Harmer, Allison, Beard

The weather forecast looks pretty good for both the BBC and Met Office as far as I can see.

Surprised Khushi is not there.  Bowling looks very weak.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: SirChef26 on May 30, 2024, 09:57:55 AM
Rightly resting our Championship bowlers, if it were up to me Snater would be sitting the whole block out alongside Porter. Just hope four weeks is enough for Cook to recover. Load the batting up and try to outscore the opposition every game. Khushi has clearly pissed somebody off, maybe the ECB have finally come back to us with a punishment on the bat...

Rosso
Das
Pepper
Cox
Walter
Critchley
Sams
Harmer
Allison
Beard

Assuming Walter can bowl that's four seam options and two spinners. Drop Das for Benkenstein if we want to play an extra spinner and open with Cox instead.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: JasonP on May 30, 2024, 10:38:42 AM
Rightly resting our Championship bowlers, if it were up to me Snater would be sitting the whole block out alongside Porter. Just hope four weeks is enough for Cook to recover. Load the batting up and try to outscore the opposition every game. Khushi has clearly pissed somebody off, maybe the ECB have finally come back to us with a punishment on the bat...

Rosso
Das
Pepper
Cox
Walter
Critchley
Sams
Harmer
Allison
Beard

Assuming Walter can bowl that's four seam options and two spinners. Drop Das for Benkenstein if we want to play an extra spinner and open with Cox instead.

You've only picked 10 players!
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: CostaDelEssex on May 30, 2024, 10:41:36 AM
Khushi played a second eleven game yesterday, makes no sense that he is not in the squad. He must have pissed someone off; dropped from the 4-day team, now from the T20.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: JasonP on May 30, 2024, 11:11:25 AM
Khushi played a second eleven game yesterday, makes no sense that he is not in the squad. He must have pissed someone off; dropped from the 4-day team, now from the T20.

He did only sign a 1 year deal last summer.  This was around the time of the season last year that Lawrence announced he was off so perhaps he's decided he's going elesewhere?

15 seems a pretty big squad.  I was surprised Elgar made the squad but having put him in it, I would think he would likely play. 
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2024, 12:50:08 PM
15 seems a pretty big squad.  I was surprised Elgar made the squad but having put him in it, I would think he would likely play.

His strike rate is far worse than the other batters, and much worse than Westley and Khushi, so it's very surprising. Maybe he wants to reinvent himself as a T20 smasher.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: Niel01 on May 30, 2024, 02:52:22 PM
Surely Sams, Harmer and Elgar cannot play in the same team and certainly can?t see Captain Harmer or Sams missing out. So why is Elgar in the squad unless there is an injury doubt concerning one of the other two overseas ??
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2024, 03:06:45 PM
Surely Sams, Harmer and Elgar cannot play in the same team and certainly can?t see Captain Harmer or Sams missing out. So why is Elgar in the squad unless there is an injury doubt concerning one of the other two overseas ??

It has been mentioned that he doesn't count as an overseas player because he has a British passport, but I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere. Of course if all 3 play we'll know for sure.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: Slogger on May 30, 2024, 03:17:04 PM
If Elgar is classed as a local player we should sign an overseas quick bowler to boost the championship squad
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: essexfan548 on May 30, 2024, 05:15:32 PM
Surely Sams, Harmer and Elgar cannot play in the same team and certainly can?t see Captain Harmer or Sams missing out. So why is Elgar in the squad unless there is an injury doubt concerning one of the other two overseas ??

It has been mentioned that he doesn't count as an overseas player because he has a British passport, but I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere. Of course if all 3 play we'll know for sure.

All 3 are in the team listed on the BBC.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2024, 05:27:29 PM
Benkenstein in as well:

Rossington, Elgar, Pepper, Cox, Walter, Critchley, Sams, Harmer, Benkenstein, Allison, Beard

Essex lost the toss and will bat.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: nat on May 30, 2024, 05:50:43 PM
Benkenstein in as well:

Rossington, Elgar, Pepper, Cox, Walter, Critchley, Sams, Harmer, Benkenstein, Allison, Beard

Essex lost the toss and will bat.

Could reverse the batting order and it wouldn't be any worse.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: Niel01 on May 30, 2024, 06:13:21 PM
Rossington never survived 3 overs in T20. Not worth his place in any form of the game.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: nat on May 30, 2024, 06:47:29 PM
At least 30 runs short of par. Harmer seems to have an over-inflated opinion of his own batting. Should be batting at no. 11 in this team.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: dazedpenguin on May 30, 2024, 07:44:19 PM
To find some positives: Benkenstein is going to be a handful later on in the season. Very promising bowler.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: nat on May 30, 2024, 08:01:11 PM
To find some positives: Benkenstein is going to be a handful later on in the season. Very promising bowler.

He'll need careful handling 'cos he will get some hammer now and again.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: SirChef26 on May 30, 2024, 08:23:55 PM
Impressed me as well. A bit of filth but to be expected for a young leggie. Fielding in general was very good. Didn't bowl terribly in the main bar Beard, just not enough runs on the board. But if we want to take the comp seriously we'd be wise not to pick an opener with a strike rate of 111 in T20s, especially after refusing to select Chef for all those years.

Sometimes the batting will come off and sometimes it won't. We'll win a few and lose a few. Hopefully enough wins to make the top four. Either way, roll on Durham.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: Niel01 on May 30, 2024, 08:54:35 PM
Rather disappointing against arguably the poorest team in the competition. Team selection a bit dubious - bit like who shall we give a game to. However can?t win everything!!
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: JasonP on May 30, 2024, 09:04:59 PM
Some low scores tonight and every match won by the side batting second.  Not easy setting scores with pretty much no preparation time after finishing CC only 2 days ago.  Elgar a very strange selection.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: nat on May 30, 2024, 09:27:06 PM
Some low scores tonight and every match won by the side batting second.  Not easy setting scores with pretty much no preparation time after finishing CC only 2 days ago.  Elgar a very strange selection.

Elgar and Harmer are teammates in SA. Just saying.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: essexfan548 on May 30, 2024, 09:39:16 PM
Ravi got a 50 for the Steelbacks and won them the game.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: kingstonj1 on May 30, 2024, 09:48:44 PM
If Elgar is classed as a local player we should sign an overseas quick bowler to boost the championship squad

Of course we should but doubt we can afford it.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire(A) and Somerset (A)
Post by: kingstonj1 on May 30, 2024, 09:49:41 PM
Khushi played a second eleven game yesterday, makes no sense that he is not in the squad. He must have pissed someone off; dropped from the 4-day team, now from the T20.

He did only sign a 1 year deal last summer.  This was around the time of the season last year that Lawrence announced he was off so perhaps he's decided he's going elesewhere?

15 seems a pretty big squad.  I was surprised Elgar made the squad but having put him in it, I would think he would likely play.

Very worrying imo.
But who can blame him given how he's been treated.