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Cricket => England ODI => Topic started by: pablo on October 05, 2023, 04:03:29 PM
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Well it was a good job New Zealand had to field a weakened side today. Nice to see how England have profited from the domestic 50 over competition.
This was men against the aged. Woakes and Moeen should not be out there. The latter is poor in all formats and Moeen's mind has been elsewhere for years. Buttler is a poor captain too. I thought we would be lucky to get out of the group stage and now I am pretty sure of it.
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Woakes is the saviour of the team, whenever he is left out of the side and we lose he is the first person who people call for a return.
Am I bad for enjoying my national team getting their backsides handed to them by the Kiwis?
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Well done England on keeping the net run rate up. Another one of these and the bags might as well be packed.
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Woakes is the saviour of the team, whenever he is left out of the side and we lose he is the first person who people call for a return.
Am I bad for enjoying my national team getting their backsides handed to them by the Kiwis?
You bad boy
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Comprehensively beaten by Afganistan - their only ever previous win against Scotland. At least can’t blame the Counties for this defeat - these England players will not have played domestic 50 Over cricket for years since sold out to the “Hundred” demoting domestic 50 0vers essentially to a second eleven competition. This was no narrow defeat - outplayed from beginning to end - won by 70 runs with 9 overs to spare !!
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The ECB reaps what it sows.
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Comprehensively beaten by Afganistan - their only ever previous win against Scotland. At least can’t blame the Counties for this defeat - these England players will not have played domestic 50 Over cricket for years since sold out to the “Hundred” demoting domestic 50 0vers essentially to a second eleven competition. This was no narrow defeat - outplayed from beginning to end - won by 70 runs with 9 overs to spare !!
Spot on
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Comprehensively beaten by Afganistan - their only ever previous win against Scotland. At least can’t blame the Counties for this defeat - these England players will not have played domestic 50 Over cricket for years since sold out to the “Hundred” demoting domestic 50 0vers essentially to a second eleven competition. This was no narrow defeat - outplayed from beginning to end - won by 70 runs with 9 overs to spare !!
Spot on
But they don't care....as articulated by the new president of the MCC Mark Nicholas.
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Just imagine if we’d had a player like Sir Chef nudging the ball around…good job his type are a thing of the past.
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Woakes is the saviour of the team, whenever he is left out of the side and we lose he is the first person who people call for a return.
Am I bad for enjoying my national team getting their backsides handed to them by the Kiwis?
You bad boy
Pass the mink lined handcuffs.
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According to the BBC, the England team will be playing the rest of their games in Saudi Arabia. They said that England's campaign will be in that large City there, Jeopardy. The place where all the jobs are.
Get the England World Cup song released quick.
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According to the BBC, the England team will be playing the rest of their games in Saudi Arabia. They said that England's campaign will be in that large City there, Jeopardy. The place where all the jobs are.
Get the England World Cup song released quick.
There’s lyrics for The Last Post?
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The song for the 1999 World Cup which was released after England had exited the tournament. Did not have the word Cricket in the title or the lyrics.
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Just imagine if we’d had a player like Sir Chef nudging the ball around…good job his type are a thing of the past.
Much better one day player than he was ever given credit for.
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Just imagine if we’d had a player like Sir Chef nudging the ball around…good job his type are a thing of the past.
Much better one day player than he was ever given credit for.
His record in International ODIs was pretty underwhelming. The likes of Malan, Bairstow, Roy and Hales all average more than him at a far superior strike rate. He may have been ok chasing 280 against Afghanistan but if they were chasing 350 against India or Australia then he'd have been a liability.
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Just imagine if we’d had a player like Sir Chef nudging the ball around…good job his type are a thing of the past.
Much better one day player than he was ever given credit for.
His record in International ODIs was pretty underwhelming. The likes of Malan, Bairstow, Roy and Hales all average more than him at a far superior strike rate. He may have been ok chasing 280 against Afghanistan but if they were chasing 350 against India or Australia then he'd have been a liability.
Indeed. The best decision he made was retiring from international white ball cricket - for himself as well as club and country!
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Fantastic win by the Netherlands vs South Africa. Good to hear Ryan Ten Doeschate on Test Match Special summariser duties.
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Well, no point betting on this tournament, I would say that this is a fix, but all the minnows are winning now.
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After that defeat to South Africa (England's heaviest defeat in ODI history), England should probably be re-classified as minnows. That was abject. Who knew that devaluing the 50 over competition to the level of second XI tournament, while the rest of the players are in the 100 ball nonsense, would actually have an impact.
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Going well again today…
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Awful. I can't remember a team that disintegrated so quickly.
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They are reaping what they have sown - no sympathy from me.
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Did somebody tell England the 50 World Cup was a 25/25 competition ?
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"The careers of several of those who have just signed lucrative new contracts would appear, in this format at least, to be over. A few days after announcing those contracts, some of them are seeming very generous indeed" @GeorgeDobell1
Spot on, George.
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Big mistake by the ECB. A load of this lot need the tin tack
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Big mistake by the ECB. A load of this lot need the tin tack
Shooting would be cheaper.
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I'd be checking the India bookmakers.
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That was awful. Can they get a refund on some of those 2 and 3 year contracts? Just when we think England have hit the bottom of the barrel they just keep going.
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I'd be checking the India bookmakers.
The thought had crossed my mind, but I suspect there’s trouble at’mill in the dressing room because betting scandals involve some sort of leverage. Given that most of those England players have nice ECB contracts, there’s no financial leverage, so that leaves other forms of blackmail…maybe there’s shots of Stokes and Butler in a compromising position???
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I do not know the format. If they remain bottom will England have to qualify for the next world cup?
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I do not know the format. If they remain bottom will England have to qualify for the next world cup?
Not sure about that, I think it's done by ICC rankings. But the top 7 teams (and Pakistan as the host nation) will automatically qualify for the 2027 champion's trophy. The chances of that actually going ahead are slim given India's reluctance to tour Pakistan.
I don't know about the next World Cup- if the ICC don't choose to abandon the format- but I suspect England will be there whatever changes the ICC need to make to the rules to ensure they are.
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I quote from the Wikipedia page on the 2525 Champions Trophy, so it may not be true:
As hosts, Pakistan qualified for the competition automatically, and they will be joined by the seven other highest-ranked teams in the 2023 Cricket World Cup, which precedes the tournament.
Oh dear.
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That is 100% correct.
Voted on after the last compeation!
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David Willey is not happy…irrespective of whether he deserves a central contract (or whether any of the others should’ve been given one) it is bizarre that the ecb announced this during a World Cup.
Just imagine if we had a good chance of getting into the next round, what possible good could this timing of the announcement do? Bazball has degenerated into headless chicken ball on and off the field.
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Joe Root says 'no Aussies' would make England team:
Thanks for the hype Joe, but sadly at this present moment cannot justify ANY England player making the X1 !
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Joe Root says 'no Aussies' would make England team:
Thanks for the hype Joe, but sadly at this present moment cannot justify ANY England player making the X1 !
Anyone know why Mitchell Marsh has gone back home? He was our last hope of beating the Aussies!
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Joe Root says 'no Aussies' would make England team:
Thanks for the hype Joe, but sadly at this present moment cannot justify ANY England player making the X1 !
Anyone know why Mitchell Marsh has gone back home? He was our last hope of beating the Aussies!
Marsh returned home due home to unspecified family reasons, and was expected not to return ( could do Essex a job if available ).
The Australia all-rounder Glenn Maxwell will miss their World Cup match with England due to concussion after falling off a golf cart this week.
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Dad's Army playing again.
I'd hoped that at least Gus A would get a bash
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Joe Root says 'no Aussies' would make England team:
Thanks for the hype Joe, but sadly at this present moment cannot justify ANY England player making the X1 !
Anyone know why Mitchell Marsh has gone back home? He was our last hope of beating the Aussies!
Marsh returned home due home to unspecified family reasons, and was expected not to return ( could do Essex a job if available ).
The Australia all-rounder Glenn Maxwell will miss their World Cup match with England due to concussion after falling off a golf cart this week.
It was his grandfather who passed away. Sad to hear. On the other hand Glenn Maxwell seems rather accident prone…almost Flintoff or Topleyesque.
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Dad's Army playing again.
I'd hoped that at least Gus A would get a bash
19-2 chasing a modest total.
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Dad's Army playing again.
I'd hoped that at least Gus A would get a bash
Harry Brook should be playing every game possible. Moeen Ali, although he did get a few runs today, has been useless in ODI cricket for years and he bats in front of Livingstone, which tells you everything you need to know about how ordinary Livingstone is.
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If we make a top 7 place at the end of this farce it will be a travesty.
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Anyone lend Silverwood a cheap stopwatch?
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England will have to pay centrally contracted players for the entirety of their deals even if they no longer play 50-over cricket after this World Cup.
Perhaps the money can from a renaming of the upgraded Warner stand. Stanford Stand anyone ?
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Anyone lend Silverwood a cheap stopwatch?
I think they already did ...
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England will have to pay centrally contracted players for the entirety of their deals even if they no longer play 50-over cricket after this World Cup.
Perhaps the money can from a renaming of the upgraded Warner stand. Stanford Stand anyone ?
The Last Stand?
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After the Saffers de knock up the semi, the sluggish from the start men in yellow have hit their straps and have reached another final.
Seems Mr Key they have prioritised both 50 and Ashes cricket.
A India v Aussie final, one defeat in the final game would be terribly unjust to see the impeccable hosts not raise the trophy, but the rules are the rules !
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Final, India v Australia live on terrestrial TV, channel 5.
Further England games on the Damien channel 666.
Congratulations to Richard Illingworth and Richard Kettleburgh on officiating in the final.
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Never write off the Australians. India have been the best team all tournament but crumbled on the final day. The Aussies know how to win. I don't usually congratulate the Aussies, but just this once: well done. They out batted, out bowled and out fielded India. A fine innings by Travis Head, reaching his hundred to almost silence.
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Not a dry poppadom in the house. Poor Indians lost the only game that mattered, pressure must be enormous for the hosts players in a country where they were expecting to win the tournament.
Congrats to the Aussies, who got ahead of the game after a frantic start, held their nerve which became a stroll in the park by playing solid cricket when needed, ( bazball ? ).
Liked the format of every team playing each other, some good underdog results kept it interesting, although tight finishes were rather rare.
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That was superb game management, indeed the ability to reintegrate Head and the vital role of labs hanger at times shows tournament management as well. Plenty of (Indian?) contributors on various hys were writing off the 50 over game, but it has been a much more interesting tournament than the various T20s.
Even though today’s match became a procession, that was the reward for the Aussies’ performance with the ball and the rebuilding after the top order bazball effort fell apart. Once again the average Aussie has far more guts and brains than their English counterpart.