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Title: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Andy on May 13, 2014, 06:32:13 PM
See: I should be in marketing!

Had a chuckle at this from cricinfo. Uncouth indeed.

Essex are also sensitive to uncouth behaviour. They suffered pitch invasions and souvenir stealing of stumps and a Sky wicket mic in the early T20 years. With the Chelmsford crowd renowned for boos and hostile chants if the home side are not playing well - a strange phenomenon in county cricket - the club have gone one step further.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Valentines Park on May 13, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
If Essex are sensitive to uncouth behavior why are they so keen to encourage the Friday nights drunk crowd?
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Post by: Blocky on May 14, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
load of rubbish from Cricinfo.
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Post by: Valentines Park on May 14, 2014, 03:02:33 PM
load of rubbish from Cricinfo.

Makes a change.

They've normally got the club pegged right.
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Post by: Andy on May 14, 2014, 03:11:02 PM
Not sure it is rubbish - many on here lament at the standard of behaviour at T20 matches, and I've definately heard booing even when listening to home matches on-line. 
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Post by: Valentines Park on May 14, 2014, 06:21:32 PM
I've definately heard booing 

Was Rob Key walking to the crease? ;)
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Post by: nat on May 14, 2014, 08:07:04 PM
I've definately heard booing 

...

How terrible. Must have woken up the wrinklies from their slumber.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Andy on May 15, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
I've definately heard booing 

Was Rob Key walking to the crease? ;)

No that was a heavy tramping sound not unlike Godzilla, but without the screaming inhabitants of Tokyo.

Mind you, there is a remake of that film coming out, presumably they'll be casting for the sequel, 'Meester Lobert Key' should audition...
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Blocky on May 15, 2014, 10:28:58 AM
I've definately heard booing 

Was Rob Key walking to the crease? ;)

No that was a heavy tramping sound not unlike Godzilla, but without the screaming inhabitants of Tokyo.

Mind you, there is a remake of that film coming out, presumably they'll be casting for the sequel, 'Meester Lobert Key' should audition...

nice one...pmsl.

I'm in attendance the majority of T20.  yes there are a lot of people in the bars.  They may well have booed, but what is rubbish is anyone booing Essex. 
The opposition get a frightful amount of stick, and if I'm honest..good. Those individuals such as Dernbach, deserve every bit of stick he gets for his attitude towards our players and our crowd/ground.

It's a different format of cricket, the crowd is different, and it was invented to get a different crowd spending money at cricket grounds.

If you don't like it, don't go.

We should however, ensure that the ground is safe for all that come into it, and if this involves security clamping down on drunken stupidity, then I'm fully in favour.  But we should not discourage the excellent partisan support.  If you've ever watched Yorkshire play Essex at headingly in limited overs, you would find their crowd is significantly worse....in respect of behaviour/sledging
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: squarelegumpire on May 15, 2014, 02:31:29 PM
I agree with Blocky!
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Post by: Diatribe on May 15, 2014, 03:13:11 PM



It's a different format of cricket, the crowd is different, and it was invented to get a different crowd spending money at cricket grounds.



I'm surprised Rupert Murcoch hasn't brought out an accompanying 'Evening Sun' to accommodate their literary tastes.
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Post by: IlfordEagle on May 15, 2014, 07:33:32 PM
There's nothing wrong with partisan support & the crowd generally get behind the team hence Fortress Chelmsford(!!) - Thanks for that Bumble, not!!
Like others my gripe is with the behaviour of the drunks especially on Friday nights (this year of course 5 out of 7 are on that night), Stewards/Security are sometimes a bit slow to react to any of this, if at all. The problem is that many of these people don't watch any other cricket & believe they have the right to shout out what they like, including personal abuse which sometimes goes a bit too far.
As for the wrinklies - most of them don't /won't attend T20 & many won't even attend longer 1 day matches either.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Valentines Park on May 15, 2014, 07:54:03 PM
many won't even attend longer 1 day matches either.

Can't blame them.

50 over cricket is an even worse spectacle than Crash-Bang-Wallop.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Blocky on May 16, 2014, 07:01:41 AM
Guys, I'm aware some of you don't like the format.  Here's the thing see.  You've got a lot of people that go to work during the week.  Getting the chance to watch our boys on a Friday (or any other evening) is a major bonus, for a good number of those.  I think it's about time that some of our membership, who appear to be4 stuck in the 1920's (or bloody well should be) recognised that without the "crowd of drunks" Essex CCC would probably be in serious financial trouble.

Why is that?  Because the 145 quid a summer for a membership does not cover the clubs outlay.  Seriously, and be honest, how much beer does the Pavilion sell during LVCC games?   I would be surprised if they sell a couple of nines a game.  How much food does the club sell in LVCC games?  not a lot.  Why, because our retired members are very well organised.  They bring their own lunch and they bring flasks of tea/coffee.  They spend virtually nothing in the ground.  Fair enough, no problem with that.

But you better get it into your nuggets that this club will be properly in the khazi if we don't get 6000 crowds at 7 T20 home games, spending significant amounts of cash across the bars and in the shop.

And as I've said so many times before..you don't like it, don't go.  it costs you nothing to not attend.
Happy Friday chaps!
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Valentines Park on May 16, 2014, 08:18:03 AM
How did the club survive prior to 2003 then?

T20 is a recent invention after all.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Andy on May 16, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
How did the club survive prior to 2003 then?

T20 is a recent invention after all.
Don't forget around the time of the 2005 Ashes success the ECB encouraged counties to redevelop their grounds. Hence so many got into financial difficulty and had to get the councils to bail them out. I've wondered whether the delays over the redevelopment were a blessing because they stopped us shelling out too much, but maybe I had too much faith...

Also, ECCC had a better side in 2003, with our OS/Kolpacs being available throughout the season. We tend to forget that there was a time before IPL, big bash league etc when top,stars came here instead of watching the cheerleaders jiggle to the music...
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: quincy on May 16, 2014, 09:53:41 AM
Guys, I'm aware some of you don't like the format.  Here's the thing see.  You've got a lot of people that go to work during the week.  Getting the chance to watch our boys on a Friday (or any other evening) is a major bonus, for a good number of those.  I think it's about time that some of our membership, who appear to be4 stuck in the 1920's (or bloody well should be) recognised that without the "crowd of drunks" Essex CCC would probably be in serious financial trouble.

Why is that?  Because the 145 quid a summer for a membership does not cover the clubs outlay.  Seriously, and be honest, how much beer does the Pavilion sell during LVCC games?   I would be surprised if they sell a couple of nines a game.  How much food does the club sell in LVCC games?  not a lot.  Why, because our retired members are very well organised.  They bring their own lunch and they bring flasks of tea/coffee.  They spend virtually nothing in the ground.  Fair enough, no problem with that.

But you better get it into your nuggets that this club will be properly in the khazi if we don't get 6000 crowds at 7 T20 home games, spending significant amounts of cash across the bars and in the shop.

And as I've said so many times before..you don't like it, don't go.  it costs you nothing to not attend.
Happy Friday chaps!

"Well said that man"
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Andy on May 17, 2014, 03:16:44 PM
Blimey, we hammered them. Who's this new Pettini fella?
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Post by: stickyboy on May 17, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
I enjoy the crowds in T20 , although sometimes you get a few idiots generally its people enjoying themselves. I also enjoy the banter with the opposition fielders which they normally take pretty well.  At the end of the day they are spending money with Essex so thats a good thing. If you don't like T20 then don't go, simple.

Anyway back to today - great result from the boys.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: IlfordEagle on May 17, 2014, 05:51:43 PM
Guys, I'm aware some of you don't like the format.  Here's the thing see.  You've got a lot of people that go to work during the week.  Getting the chance to watch our boys on a Friday (or any other evening) is a major bonus, for a good number of those.  I think it's about time that some of our membership, who appear to be4 stuck in the 1920's (or bloody well should be) recognised that without the "crowd of drunks" Essex CCC would probably be in serious financial trouble.

Why is that?  Because the 145 quid a summer for a membership does not cover the clubs outlay.  Seriously, and be honest, how much beer does the Pavilion sell during LVCC games?   I would be surprised if they sell a couple of nines a game.  How much food does the club sell in LVCC games?  not a lot.  Why, because our retired members are very well organised.  They bring their own lunch and they bring flasks of tea/coffee.  They spend virtually nothing in the ground.  Fair enough, no problem with that.

But you better get it into your nuggets that this club will be properly in the khazi if we don't get 6000 crowds at 7 T20 home games, spending significant amounts of cash across the bars and in the shop.

And as I've said so many times before..you don't like it, don't go.  it costs you nothing to not attend.
Happy Friday chaps!



FYI -  I am a huge fan of T20 attending all our home games plus away games at Lords & The Oval. I do understand that we need the revenue from these games but as I have said before I don't like the bad behaviour that comes with it from some so called fans.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Blocky on May 19, 2014, 07:18:26 AM
Guys, I'm aware some of you don't like the format.  Here's the thing see.  You've got a lot of people that go to work during the week.  Getting the chance to watch our boys on a Friday (or any other evening) is a major bonus, for a good number of those.  I think it's about time that some of our membership, who appear to be4 stuck in the 1920's (or bloody well should be) recognised that without the "crowd of drunks" Essex CCC would probably be in serious financial trouble.

Why is that?  Because the 145 quid a summer for a membership does not cover the clubs outlay.  Seriously, and be honest, how much beer does the Pavilion sell during LVCC games?   I would be surprised if they sell a couple of nines a game.  How much food does the club sell in LVCC games?  not a lot.  Why, because our retired members are very well organised.  They bring their own lunch and they bring flasks of tea/coffee.  They spend virtually nothing in the ground.  Fair enough, no problem with that.

But you better get it into your nuggets that this club will be properly in the khazi if we don't get 6000 crowds at 7 T20 home games, spending significant amounts of cash across the bars and in the shop.

And as I've said so many times before..you don't like it, don't go.  it costs you nothing to not attend.
Happy Friday chaps!



FYI -  I am a huge fan of T20 attending all our home games plus away games at Lords & The Oval. I do understand that we need the revenue from these games but as I have said before I don't like the bad behaviour that comes with it from some so called fans.

I'm happy with stamping down "bad behaviour".  I'm not against a very fervent home support though.  This is a different game of cricket.
And you Sir, will well remember the old days at Valentines Park when it got very very lively after about 4pm on the Sunday league games.... ;D
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: eastsax on May 20, 2014, 07:13:49 AM
I enjoy the crowds in T20 , although sometimes you get a few idiots generally its people enjoying themselves. I also enjoy the banter with the opposition fielders which they normally take pretty well.  At the end of the day they are spending money with Essex so thats a good thing. If you don't like T20 then don't go, simple.

Quite a few idiots in my experience. The final straw for me was when around 20 young, insensitive drunkards were queuing for the disabled toilet and couldn't understand that it was there for the use of patrons with disabilities and not for those fully abled idiots to pee all over the floor whilst a steward looked on without intervening. 

So Friday T20's are out for me and with good reason.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Valentines Park on May 20, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
fully abled idiots to pee all over the floor

Where is Monty supposed to urinate then? ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Andy on May 20, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
fully abled idiots to pee all over the floor

Where is Monty supposed to urinate then? ;)

Well, there was a steward looking on...  ::)
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Valentines Park on May 20, 2014, 12:19:29 PM


Well, there was a steward looking on... 

& given their track record he could probably pee on them with impugnity.
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Andy on May 20, 2014, 12:35:19 PM


Well, there was a steward looking on... 

& given their track record he could probably pee on them with impugnity.

I've never heard it called that before.  ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Slogger on May 21, 2014, 08:43:15 PM
It was a urinating incident that put me off taking my son to Chelmsford T20 games at a Saturday tea time game v Middlesex a couple of years back.

We went to Lords on Saturday and had a top day. I really enjoyed the second game which we stayed on for. I wonder if there's a case for a T20 magic weekend like they have in rugby league where say all the teams in a group each play a couple of games on one large ground over the May Bank Holiday weekend with all England players available?
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: Andy on May 21, 2014, 09:06:01 PM
We went to Lords on Saturday and had a top day. I really enjoyed the second game which we stayed on for. I wonder if there's a case for a T20 magic weekend like they have in rugby league where say all the teams in a group each play a couple of games on one large ground over the May Bank Holiday weekend with all England players available?

Yep, but what if it happens to rain in Essex (for once)?
Title: Re: Countdown to Blast Off!
Post by: DT on May 23, 2014, 08:02:15 AM
It was a urinating incident that put me off taking my son to Chelmsford T20 games at a Saturday tea time game v Middlesex a couple of years back.

We went to Lords on Saturday and had a top day. I really enjoyed the second game which we stayed on for. I wonder if there's a case for a T20 magic weekend like they have in rugby league where say all the teams in a group each play a couple of games on one large ground over the May Bank Holiday weekend with all England players available?

No because we're told people want games spread out and played every week at a certain day/time like football so easier to manage!
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Post by: Valentines Park on May 23, 2014, 11:08:51 AM
No because we're told people want games spread out and played every week at a certain day/time like football so easier to manage!

I like the Middlesex model.

Get it over & done with & then forget about it.