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Title: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Andy on April 13, 2014, 08:48:29 AM
All the best to the ECCC coach and all the other lunatics currently running around the capital.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Valentines Park on April 13, 2014, 09:05:02 AM
Leaving aside the fact that he should keep on running there are more pressing matters from a  cricketing perspective.

What an absolute joke of a club Essex is.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: DT on April 13, 2014, 09:19:53 AM
Leaving aside the fact that he should keep on running there are more pressing matters from a  cricketing perspective.

What an absolute joke of a club Essex is.

Agreed - wish him well for no doubt a worthy cause(es) but come on, on the first day of the season...

We won't miss him anyway - I predict we'll have a good day today and then collapse like nine pins tomorrow when he returns - that's unless he's still jogging round London tawn....
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: afinetickletoleg on April 13, 2014, 10:04:54 AM
Leaving aside the fact that he should keep on running there are more pressing matters from a  cricketing perspective.

What an absolute joke of a club Essex is.

The constant criticism is scraping the barrel a bit now.

I'm sure that all of the necessary preparation would have been completed prior to today so short of telling the skipper whether to bat or bowl should he win the toss what real difference does missing half a days play really make?

Today it is down to the players to apply their 'skills' in the appropriate manner.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Valentines Park on April 13, 2014, 10:36:47 AM


The constant criticism is scraping the barrel a bit now.



Is it?

What other club would let their coach take part in a fun run during a competitive fixture?
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: afinetickletoleg on April 13, 2014, 10:51:59 AM


The constant criticism is scraping the barrel a bit now.



Is it?

What other club would let their coach take part in a fun run during a competitive fixture?

I don't know but as I also said today will be down to the players as the preparation would have been completed before today and he will probably be there before tea so what real difference does it make?
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Valentines Park on April 13, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
Larry will have to get his skates on if he wants to see any of this fixture. Perhaps he should divert up the A13?
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: nat on April 13, 2014, 12:09:42 PM
Leaving aside the fact that he should keep on running there are more pressing matters from a  cricketing perspective.

What an absolute joke of a club Essex is.

... I predict we'll have a good day today ...

Don't give up your day job ...
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: firehazard on April 13, 2014, 05:19:36 PM
One can only hope that Mr Grayson was running to raise money to fund the signing of a decent overseas player. That would (just about) justify him missing the first day of the season.

Still, plenty of time to ponder this year's excuses while jogging around the capital.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Valentines Park on April 13, 2014, 05:27:56 PM
One can only hope that Mr Grayson was running to raise money to fund the signing of a decent overseas player.

I'd have sponsored his severance package.

Maybe it's time to get the EGM ball rolling again.

I can't believe the club are perpetrating this kind of amateurish crap.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: DT on April 13, 2014, 05:36:28 PM
Leaving aside the fact that he should keep on running there are more pressing matters from a  cricketing perspective.

What an absolute joke of a club Essex is.

... I predict we'll have a good day today ...

Don't give up your day job ...


So there you have it, it's NOT Larry's fault - all hail King Larry!!!
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: nat on April 13, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
One can only hope that Mr Grayson was running to raise money to fund the signing of a decent overseas player.

...

I can't believe the club are perpetrating this kind of amateurish crap.

I can.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Valentines Park on April 13, 2014, 06:36:43 PM

I can.

Even by their standards this is a new low.

I doubt any other sports club anywhere in the world would let the coach go for a glorified jog whilst his team is playing.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: afinetickletoleg on April 13, 2014, 06:49:41 PM

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Maybe it's time to get the EGM ball rolling

Why? You will never get involved in anything other than being a keyboard warrior.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Valentines Park on April 13, 2014, 06:58:40 PM

Why? You will never get involved in anything other than being a keyboard warrior.

Like you being an inveterate apologist for the worst coach on the county circuit.

If an EGM is called I'll sign on the dotted line.

I don't pretend to know how to run a professional cricket club but sure as hell the bozos in charge don't either.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: vim on April 13, 2014, 07:53:04 PM
In my opinion absenting yourself from the first day of the season hoping that nothing will go wrong is a serious misjudgement.

Are the club going to give Grayson a final warning about his conduct and absence?

Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: nat on April 13, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
In my opinion absenting yourself from the first day of the season hoping that nothing will go wrong is a serious misjudgement.

Are the club going to give Grayson a final warning about his conduct and absence?

What do you think?
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: afinetickletoleg on April 13, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
In my opinion absenting yourself from the first day of the season hoping that nothing will go wrong is a serious misjudgement.

Are the club going to give Grayson a final warning about his conduct and absence?

What do you think?

Considering that he was running for the Lords Taverners and that entries for the marathon would have been confirmed before the fixtures were released then I am sure that he ran with the full blessing of the club.

Have a pop at the batsmen; they were the ones who did not perform.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: firehazard on April 14, 2014, 08:34:39 AM
Considering that he was running for the Lords Taverners and that entries for the marathon would have been confirmed before the fixtures were released then I am sure that he ran with the full blessing of the club.

Have a pop at the batsmen; they were the ones who did not perform.

If Amazing Grayson absented himself from the job without the club's full blessing, then that would be pretty much tantamount to effectively handing in his resignation (at least it would've been in most of the jobs I've worked in).

If the club gave him their blessing to be absent from the first day of the County Championship, then that's a telling sign of the lack of importance they give to the four-day game. I'm guessing they wouldn't've consented to his request to be absent for the first T20 match.

Anyway, it seems that Essex's batters are useless both with Grayson and without him. Which makes one wonder what the point of him is.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: BigG on April 14, 2014, 02:51:11 PM
A bit harsh I think.
As another poster said, Larry's job was to prepare the players, there's little he could have done (at least technically) during the collapse. However, as coach/manager/mentor to the players I personally think him running the marathon and raising money for charity is inspirational on a professional and human level. Did you see Neil Burns' opinions on coaching recently?
This strikes me as a little knee jerk. Would you be complaining about this issue if we'd made a good start to the season?
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Diatribe on April 14, 2014, 03:04:31 PM
. However, as coach/manager/mentor to the players I personally think him running the marathon and raising money for charity is inspirational on a professional and human level.
'Inspirational on a professional and human level,' yor 'avvin a laff, aintcha, why he didn't even win.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: BigG on April 14, 2014, 03:18:52 PM
Errrrr, "he didn't even win". You've missed the point there.
Deliberately????
Apologies if I've missed some irony in your post.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Andy on April 14, 2014, 03:27:18 PM
Did you see Neil Burns' opinions on coaching recently?
This strikes me as a little knee jerk. Would you be complaining about this issue if we'd made a good start to the season?

Absolutely not knee-jerk. If you look, Burns has been involved with London County for many years, providing an alternative to the county set up for developing young players. He's also the one established players go to if the county set-up isn't helping their development. Did you see his comment about 'old boys' clogging up the county coaching system? Ring any bells for a certain D2 club?

If anything, what the recent slump has shown is how the benefits of S*Y money, central contracts etc has been offset by the same old idiots running the game at national and county levels. By bringing in imports from other countries, the weakness of the youth development system have been papered over.

Not enough kids playing at grass roots, too many put off a career unnecessarily or prematurely by an inflexible system. Note how the best development recently has been the Unicorns, which tries to compensate for the county system's deficiencies.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: BigG on April 14, 2014, 03:43:56 PM
Sorry Andy.
Please read the post properly.
You will see that the "knee jerk" comment was aimed at the posters attacking Grayson for running in the marathon.
Not the Burns' comments which, I'm happy to see you agree with me on, were used to defend Grayson's actions.
By the way, I think I used to play cricket with you.
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Diatribe on April 14, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
Errrrr, "he didn't even win". You've missed the point there.
Deliberately????
Apologies if I've missed some irony in your post.
Apology accepted, BigG. ;D
Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: essexfan548 on April 15, 2014, 08:14:19 PM
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Title: Re: Larry's lap of London
Post by: Andy on April 16, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
Sorry Andy.
Please read the post properly.
You will see that the "knee jerk" comment was aimed at the posters attacking Grayson for running in the marathon.
Not the Burns' comments which, I'm happy to see you agree with me on, were used to defend Grayson's actions.
By the way, I think I used to play cricket with you.

No need to apologise, just a missing word confsued the point - which was correct.

Incidently, I think your reference to me 'playing' cricket is stretching the point.