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Club Administration => Club Administration => Topic started by: nat on October 23, 2020, 12:31:33 PM
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Gone. Good. Presided over ever increasing financial losses and a continuation of poor member/spectator relations.
No doubt some will give credit to him for the team's success. We'll never know how much of the success was down to him.
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Is this down to his faux-pas at the Member Forum? It's not been put online yet ..
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Do tell!
Lynda
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One thing I will say in favour of Derek Bowden is he cancelled the ground development, other CEO's may not have found a way to dump the developers.
I hope that a successor does not try and bring it back. Holding a members forum with a snake oil salesman consultant. Who cannot answer simple questions like. What will it look like?
When the post is advertised, I wonder who the joke applicants will be. These are not the people similar to ones who stand in General Elections knowing that they have no chance and are only doing it for a laugh. I mean someone who thinks that they are a serious candidate, when clearly they are not.
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I wonder if they might delay an appointment to save some money. After all what does a CEO actually do in winter?
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One thing I will say in favour of Derek Bowden is he cancelled the ground development, other CEO's may not have found a way to dump the developers.
I hope that a successor does not try and bring it back. Holding a members forum with a snake oil salesman consultant. Who cannot answer simple questions like. What will it look like?
When the post is advertised, I wonder who the joke applicants will be. These are not the people similar to ones who stand in General Elections knowing that they have no chance and are only doing it for a laugh. I mean someone who thinks that they are a serious candidate, when clearly they are not.
you mean David East?
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I wonder if they might delay an appointment to save some money. After all what does a CEO actually do in winter?
Let me rephrase that:
"After all what does a CEO actually do...?"
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One thing that was said about Peter Edwards was that he did too much. Even carrying on when he was seriously ill.
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I wonder if Ronnie Irani might be worth a shout for the job. He seems to be doing quite well with the cricket committee ?
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One thing that was said about Peter Edwards was that he did too much. Even carrying on when he was seriously ill.
He wasn't CEO though - secretary/general manager ...
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I wonder if Ronnie Irani might be worth a shout for the job. He seems to be doing quite well with the cricket committee ?
Cobblers. At least members would have comfier shoes.
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I am told he had a shrewd business brain and in some ways the club has clearly progressed under him although as others have said that was probably due to the change in chairmanship, coaching staff and captaincy more than anything he did. He did not really seem like a cricketing man and unlike Peter Edwards, say, was as remote as he could be from the membership. I wrote to him twice during his tenure once to complain over a ticketing cock up from Administration and another about his hopelessly over the top obsession with health and safety that no other county seemed to observe, but never got a reply. I can't say I mourn his departure.
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I am told he had a shrewd business brain and in some ways the club has clearly progressed under him although as others have said that was probably due to the change in chairmanship, coaching staff and captaincy more than anything he did. He did not really seem like a cricketing man and unlike Peter Edwards, say, was as remote as he could be from the membership. I wrote to him twice during his tenure once to complain over a ticketing cock up from Administration and another about his hopelessly over the top obsession with health and safety that no other county seemed to observe, but never got a reply. I can't say I mourn his departure.
ditto
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Interestingly, the story about him going was briefly on BBC Text service yesterday, then disappeared - despite them having very little on the Headlines section of the cricket pages.
Lynda
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Success on the field achieved despite Mr Bowden, not because of him IMO.
I concur with others above re his lack of engagement, seemed to delight in hiding away or getting his PA to send template replies.
Can't see that he'll be missed.......
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Shouldn't we wait until Bowden's replacement is named and how good he or she is before making judgement on his tenure? Unless of course anybody thinks that's cobblers too!
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Shouldn't we wait until Bowden's replacement is named and how good he or she is before making judgement on his tenure? Unless of course anybody thinks that's cobblers too!
Cobblers....with all due respect.
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Shouldn't we wait until Bowden's replacement is named and how good he or she is before making judgement on his tenure? Unless of course anybody thinks that's cobblers too!
Cobblers....with all due respect.
Clearly my Irani sports insole joke went over the head...
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Shouldn't we wait until Bowden's replacement is named and how good he or she is before making judgement on his tenure? Unless of course anybody thinks that's cobblers too!
Cobblers....with all due respect.
You could well be right, however we will see wether Essex appoint another CEO with a business concept first rather then a love of sport. Irani has a business concept and we know he loves Essex in particular.
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Positive about cricket, please, but with good....... ie successful ...... business experience. TBH I think that Bowden, for all that he came from football, was, I think a reasonable administrator of a cricket club, and he did call time on that mad development scheme.
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I agree Derek Bowden's legacy is not all around you. He killed off the ground development and put a stake through it so that it cannot rise from the dead again.
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While clearly the scheme we all fought about is dead and buried the ground's facilities need improvement. In some areas it's getting to be a desperate need. For the moment anyway, the teams in a good place....... yes, yes I know we can never stand still ........ so may be someone with some sort of vision on that side would be useful. However, there ought to be someone on the Committee with that sort of vision, too. No good having a CE with vision and imagination without a strong elected voice as well.
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All Bowden did was succumb to the inevitable with the proposed 'ground redevelopment'. I can see little evidence of any strategic thinking on his or ECCC's part.
In fact I would contend that it was the only option available after No Change Essex had backed themselves into a corner. Firstly refusing to reveal any tangible design details, then attempted to conceal key elements of the project, such as the layout and design for the River End.
Anybody who saw this incompetent shambles from its unveiling knew it was undeliverable. It lacked coherence, it was at the mercy of the buy-to let property sector, and put ECCC members and supporters firmly at the back of the queue.
Remember how the Club decided to belatedly 'consult' with its real stakeholders - those self same members and supporters, after the DoE called in the plans due to the flood risk, amongst other concerns?
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Notice that John's title is currently Chairman and interim Chief executive
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This temporary appointment was announced on the website and there is an interview with him about future plans.