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Cricket => England Test => Topic started by: bobw on December 31, 2019, 05:26:49 PM

Title: Four day tests
Post by: bobw on December 31, 2019, 05:26:49 PM
ECB are supporting four rather than five day tests. The justification being to reduce the load on players.

I would suggest the gaps will be filled with yet more 20 over or even 16.4 over cricket. Test series have been reduced to three or even two tests for just this reason.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: mawallace on December 31, 2019, 06:13:45 PM
And then they suggest the Country Championship is reduced to 3 days
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: smandlej on January 01, 2020, 09:37:21 AM
Think they'd rather the County Championship was reduced to 3 matches!

Happy New Year!

Lynda
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: LeedsExile on January 01, 2020, 10:17:29 AM
Yes and played overseas as well. Happy New Year to all.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: Valentines Park on January 01, 2020, 11:40:20 AM
Very few tests go the distance so they might as well make it official.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: jwb2 on January 01, 2020, 12:20:39 PM
My instinct is that most tests do not last five days that often now. But given that they increased the daily number of overs to 98 in four day tests when most can’t get 90 in will be a problem if they don’t start penalising slow overrates.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: bobw on January 01, 2020, 01:24:09 PM
Most test do not last four days.

The number of twenty over matches has increased.

Spot the link!
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: IlfordEagle on January 01, 2020, 05:01:26 PM
So the ECB now advocate 4 day Tests to ease the workload on players? That'll be the increased workload made by themselves & their stupid, irresponsible & uncaring approach previously to cram in as much 1 day cricket as possible. No doubt the loss of 5 days from an Ashes series will be compensated by extra 1 day matches!!
As Richard Littlejohn would say 'you couldn't make it up'.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: LeedsExile on January 01, 2020, 06:30:07 PM
With climate change screwing the weather up I would have thought you need 5 days to allow for weather interference. The recent test in Pakistan was ruined by rain so it can happen anywhere. The idea that they will bowl more overs in 4 days to compensate is absurd. The players have no interest in increasing over rates and the umpires are complicit in the go-slow.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: nat on January 01, 2020, 06:35:07 PM
With climate change screwing the weather up I would have thought you need 5 days to allow for weather interference. The recent test in Pakistan was ruined by rain so it can happen anywhere. The idea that they will bowl more overs in 4 days to compensate is absurd. The players have no interest in increasing over rates and the umpires are complicit in the go-slow.

Quite. We need a spectator strike. The only language the ECB will understand.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: bobw on January 01, 2020, 07:50:54 PM
With climate change screwing the weather up I would have thought you need 5 days to allow for weather interference. The recent test in Pakistan was ruined by rain so it can happen anywhere. The idea that they will bowl more overs in 4 days to compensate is absurd. The players have no interest in increasing over rates and the umpires are complicit in the go-slow.

Quite. We need a spectator strike. The only language the ECB will understand.

Or would they then conclude that there is no demand for test cricket and have even more 50 and 20 over matches?
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: Perov on January 02, 2020, 03:31:50 PM
Quite. We need a spectator strike. The only language the ECB will understand.
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I'm hoping there will be a spectator strike for the 100 ball abomination.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: bobw on January 07, 2020, 02:00:51 PM
I take it the ECB do not count the current test going to the wire on the FIFTH day.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: nat on January 07, 2020, 02:04:07 PM
I take it the ECB do not count the current test going to the wire on the FIFTH day.
Trouble is...the South African cricket board are the latest to support 4 day Tests.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: IlfordEagle on January 07, 2020, 06:02:55 PM
See my post under SA 2nd Test, No to 4 day Tests.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: bobw on October 24, 2020, 08:53:19 AM
And now we have a proposal for a six day test championship final. This along with the 5 day BWC finals makes a mockery of the four day proposal.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: LeedsExile on October 24, 2020, 09:23:26 AM
Of all the recent proposals to change International cricket the "World Test Championship" seems the daftest. Real followers of test cricket do not need a "context" to enjoy a test series and casual followers would not have a clue as to how the World Test Championship is conducted. It is opaque and unwieldy. Teams do not play the same number of games or against the same opposition so it makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: IlfordEagle on October 24, 2020, 07:30:25 PM
Of all the recent proposals to change International cricket the "World Test Championship" seems the daftest. Real followers of test cricket do not need a "context" to enjoy a test series and casual followers would not have a clue as to how the World Test Championship is conducted. It is opaque and unwieldy. Teams do not play the same number of games or against the same opposition so it makes no sense at all.

Hear, hear!!
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: nat on October 24, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
Of all the recent proposals to change International cricket the "World Test Championship" seems the daftest. Real followers of test cricket do not need a "context" to enjoy a test series and casual followers would not have a clue as to how the World Test Championship is conducted. It is opaque and unwieldy. Teams do not play the same number of games or against the same opposition so it makes no sense at all.
Unfortunately, excluding England and perhaps Australia, there are a diminishing number of Test cricket followers. They are fed an unremitting diet of 20-20 bish bash with the occasional 50-50 bish bash bosh.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: Andy on October 25, 2020, 02:30:03 PM
Four day cricket makes more sense if we use floodlights and pink ball. Getting a proper amount of overs in each day. Especially if you have a disparity between teams. Too many teams give up in test cricket, including us at times.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: LeedsExile on October 25, 2020, 02:44:43 PM
But Andy all sides are incapable of getting a reasonable number of overs bowled in a day.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: nat on October 25, 2020, 04:31:51 PM
But Andy all sides are incapable of getting a reasonable number of overs bowled in a day.
Wrong. They are capable of doing it but choose not to.
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: bobw on October 25, 2020, 07:41:43 PM
But Andy all sides are incapable of getting a reasonable number of overs bowled in a day.
Wrong. They are capable of doing it but choose not to.

I am sure if the penalty was high enough theycould get back to 20 overs an hour. how about 1% of match fee for each over missed? Or overs have to be completed in each session. If not no lunch/tea?
Title: Re: Four day tests
Post by: Andy on October 25, 2020, 10:08:13 PM
Threatening to send some disgruntled scouser on their third week of tier 3 lockdown might be a useful persuader for tardy over rates.