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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: mawallace on August 29, 2019, 12:31:57 PM

Title: Surrey - away
Post by: mawallace on August 29, 2019, 12:31:57 PM
Essex squad:-

(no change!)

Simon Harmer (11) (Captain)
Mohammad Amir (5)
Aaron Beard (14)
Ravi Bopara (25)
Sam Cook (16)
Cameron Delport (89)
Ryan ten Doeschate (27)
Dan Lawrence (28)
Jamie Porter (44)
Shane Snater (29)
Paul Walter (22)
Tom Westley (21
Adam Wheater (31) (Wicket-keeper)
Adam Zampa (88)

Surrey squad:-

Jade Dernbach (c)
Gareth Batty
Scott Borthwick
Jordan Clark
Rikki Clarke
Sam Curran
Aaron Finch
Ben Foakes
Will Jacks
Ryan Patel
Ollie Pope
Mark Stoneman
Imran Tahir


Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Andy on August 29, 2019, 06:52:33 PM
186-4 having been struggling at the half way stage.  Seems the Painted Lady and the rest went for a few in the end, apart from Batty.  Is this enough? Will Beard bowl the 19th over? 
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: SirChef26 on August 29, 2019, 07:31:05 PM
Been keeping an eye on other results and it’s not looking good with Hampshire doing well against Middlesex. Probably leaves us with too much to do with our net run rate being s**t even if we win this match and win again tomorrow. That choke against Hampshire would end up costing us the top four.

Update: Well we ended up winning. All Glammy aren’t we!
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: jwb on August 29, 2019, 07:47:11 PM
186-4 having been struggling at the half way stage.  Seems the Painted Lady and the rest went for a few in the end, apart from Batty.  Is this enough? Will Beard bowl the 19th over?

That will be a no then.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Andy on August 29, 2019, 08:56:29 PM
186-4 having been struggling at the half way stage.  Seems the Painted Lady and the rest went for a few in the end, apart from Batty.  Is this enough? Will Beard bowl the 19th over?

That will be a no then.

Yes and no.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: nat on August 29, 2019, 09:03:04 PM
Great win at the home of Slurry. Bet the Essex fans at the game enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Valentines Park on August 29, 2019, 09:16:54 PM
It was one of the most enjoyable T20 games I've ever attended.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: IlfordEagle on August 29, 2019, 10:16:52 PM
There were a lot of Essex fans there, probably more than Sorry, not as many as the City types on their night out though. A victory margin narrow which should have been more comfortable, decent showing from the bowlers with Amir especially economical as normal, an eventful over by Walter but first ball he bowled the dangerous Pope, who if he had stayed in, was likely to lead Sorry home, wickets then fell regularly. After a poor start by us losing wickets again to unnecessary shots Ravi & Tendo upped the pace with nearly 50 off the last 3 overs, if only Ravi in particular could have done this earlier in the Group. It is unlikely we can qualify even if we beat Kent tomorrow but at least we have had a go, the 4 washouts have done us no favours as we would certainly have expected 2 wins v Glamorgan at least but a bit more encouraging this year although we still don't appear to have a settled , established T20 team, I have been distinctly underwhelmed by Delport bar one big innings plus a 50 & little else, Zampa has done ok, Amir very well & kept it tight generally. A lot to do to improve next year though!
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: squarelegumpire on August 30, 2019, 06:14:34 AM
I'd given up on getting anywhere in this competition this year, but if we'd won only one of the wash-outs we'd be in with a chance of progressing, in spite of having the second worst net run-rate. Strange.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: stewyww on August 30, 2019, 07:42:56 AM
Simple equation. We need to beat Kent and Hampshire must lose (or tie).
Us winning takes out Kent, plus one of Somerset or Middlesex.
In the unlikely event of a tie between Somerset and Middlesex, then all we need to do is win our game.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Andy on August 30, 2019, 09:17:41 AM
I'd given up on getting anywhere in this competition this year, but if we'd won only one of the wash-outs we'd be in with a chance of progressing, in spite of having the second worst net run-rate. Strange.

Indeed, but that's often how competitions are designed nowadays - look at the IPL, 10 teams endless matches even then 40% go through to the 'finals' stage.  Knockout competitions are so passe...still, I'd actually prefer that we didn't lose the monies from the rained off matches. After all, this is a sports business.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Reddevil on August 30, 2019, 09:55:56 AM
Probably too little too late, but good to see that Essex finally adopted a risk, reward approach to this must win game by selecting Porter premium pace bowler, ahead I presume of the hapless Beard.

Risk, he might get injured and not spearhead our final thrust to Championship glory.

Reward - surprise, surprise, Porters rips out Surrey’s powerhouse top order, finishing with 4-38 and vying with Ravi for man of the match.

Faint heart and all that!! Oh that he had been selected for the Hampshire game.

Likely to be academic even if we beat Kent tonight, who must be in state of shock at losing two crucial games catching Essex disease of grabbing defeat from jaws of victory, for although T20 and anything can happen, cannot see Hampshire doing anything but win against winless Glamorgan, our best hope here is a storm to suddenly arrive, and  Somerset to beat Middlesex, even with AB, whom I saw play a spirited knock last night although clearly not match fit, and who were very disappointing in the field, putting down at least two catches and were easily beaten by Hampshire.

Our run rate also  equates to a point lost, so the odds are well stacked against us- but never say never, this is Essex after all, full of surprises, nasty and glorious.

Biggest disappointment for me of this ultimately disappointing season has been the failure of Delport, of whom so much was expected.

Progress has been made but not enough and I hope if we do nothing else, we somehow secure a quality aggressive consistent top order batsman, preferably an opener, to ensure we start well.

Not easy but this is what is required as top priority.

Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Jobbo10 on August 30, 2019, 10:39:10 AM
Cracks me up on here when people write a load of drivel having clearly not watched the match
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: essexfan548 on August 30, 2019, 11:04:21 AM
Cracks me up on here when people write a load of drivel having clearly not watched the match
Perhaps they watched on LiveStream?
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: nat on August 30, 2019, 11:09:41 AM
...

Progress has been made but not enough and I hope if we do nothing else, we somehow secure a quality aggressive consistent top order batsman, preferably an opener, to ensure we start well.

Not easy but this is what is required as top priority.

Trego is our man. Would be cheap and gives a bowling option.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: JasonP on August 30, 2019, 11:37:29 AM
Probably too little too late, but good to see that Essex finally adopted a risk, reward approach to this must win game by selecting Porter premium pace bowler, ahead I presume of the hapless Beard.

Risk, he might get injured and not spearhead our final thrust to Championship glory.

Reward - surprise, surprise, Porters rips out Surrey’s powerhouse top order, finishing with 4-38 and vying with Ravi for man of the match.

Faint heart and all that!! Oh that he had been selected for the Hampshire game.

Beard got injured in the warm up, that's why Porter played.  Neither are particularly good T20 bowlers, especially at the death.  Porter got a bit lucky yesterday as you can in T20, just like we have been a little bit lucky with the ball in the last 3 matches in the power play.  Against Sussex Salt, Wright and Carey all gifted their wickets in the Sussex powerplay, Vince and Roussow against Hampshire and the top 3 Surrey batsman did yesterday.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Valentines Park on August 30, 2019, 12:24:23 PM
Porter got a bit lucky yesterday as you can in T20

Or unlucky as witnessed by the fact that our best bowler managed the same amount of wickets as our worst bowler.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: LeedsExile on August 30, 2019, 01:35:24 PM
The extraordinary finish to the South group, once again emphasises how unfair the north/south divide is. Eight teams can still qualify in the south and even Glamorgan have been competitive in recent seasons. At the outset it is impossible to predict which 4 teams will qualify from the southern group. However the Northern group was settled with a couple of games to go. It contains teams such as Leicester, Northants, Yorkshire and Durham that are truly awful and have been for a few years. It is some time since Northants won the thing. Although the actual tournament winners may come from the northern group it is far easier for them to qualify.
It was suggested a while ago that 20/20 be played in two divisions with promotion and relegation. I think that would be far fairer unless they just play the current thing on a random draw basis. Before people site the importance of local derbies, I really do not think that the average attendee at a match cares less who the opposition is. I heard today that since it's inception Derby have only qualified for two qtr finals before this season and had therefore only played two southern opponents ever!
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: IlfordEagle on August 30, 2019, 02:37:42 PM
Cracks me up on here when people write a load of drivel having clearly not watched the match

Just out of interest, did you?
I did & I've put down my thoughts as I see it!
Remember in a democracy we are all entitled to our opinion be it good or bad, right or wrong.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: IlfordEagle on August 30, 2019, 10:10:21 PM
The extraordinary finish to the South group, once again emphasises how unfair the north/south divide is. Eight teams can still qualify in the south and even Glamorgan have been competitive in recent seasons. At the outset it is impossible to predict which 4 teams will qualify from the southern group. However the Northern group was settled with a couple of games to go. It contains teams such as Leicester, Northants, Yorkshire and Durham that are truly awful and have been for a few years. It is some time since Northants won the thing. Although the actual tournament winners may come from the northern group it is far easier for them to qualify.
It was suggested a while ago that 20/20 be played in two divisions with promotion and relegation. I think that would be far fairer unless they just play the current thing on a random draw basis. Before people site the importance of local derbies, I really do not think that the average attendee at a match cares less who the opposition is. I heard today that since it's inception Derby have only qualified for two qtr finals before this season and had therefore only played two southern opponents ever!

Agree to an extent, Derby have never been to Finals Day (only County not to), I too have always felt the South Group is much tougher & any 4 from 9 is the norm, in the North you can usually expect Lancs, Notts Warwicks (not Birmingham) Worcs to be involved with the rest generally nowhere, groups at random would greatly the travelling & few would travel to ,say, Durham for a Group game whereas Lords & The Oval normally sees huge volumes of Essex fans.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: Jobbo10 on September 02, 2019, 07:46:17 AM
Cracks me up on here when people write a load of drivel having clearly not watched the match

Just out of interest, did you?
I did & I've put down my thoughts as I see it!
Remember in a democracy we are all entitled to our opinion be it good or bad, right or wrong.

Yes I did via the live stream and absolutely agree we are all entitled to our opinions. What I do question is when someone clearly hasn't watched and comes on here and slates/praises players without any substance behind it, rightly or wrongly I tend to only post when I have seen enough to form my own opinion, right or wrong.
Title: Re: Surrey - away
Post by: squarelegumpire on September 04, 2019, 07:35:24 PM
Could play East vs West.