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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: JasonP on July 31, 2019, 04:30:19 PM
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Squad
Simon Harmer (11) (Captain)
Mohammad Amir (5)
Aaron Beard (14)
Sam Cook (16)
Cameron Delport (89)
Dan Lawrence (28)
Matt Quinn (94)
Shane Snater (29)
Ryan ten Doeschate (27)
Paul Walter (22)
Tom Westley (21)
Adam Wheater (31) (Wicket-keeper)
Adam Zampa (88)
No Chopra or Bopara. They don't bother saying whether they are injured or not. They haven't bothered to replace them with any batsmen so we're back to Harmer at 7 again. It's an absolute joke. We really are clueless when it comes to this.
I guess it will be something like
Delport
Wheater
Westley
tendo
Lawrence
Walter
Harmer
Snater
Amir
Zampa
Cook
Wheater has barely made a run all season and Walter has never done much for the first team with the bat.
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Bopara played (and got runs and wickets) for the seconds on Monday. Walter also got runs. harsh to criticise him in one day cricket for his batting, not had much of a run batting in the first team.
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Bopara played (and got runs and wickets) for the seconds on Monday. Walter also got runs. harsh to criticise him in one day cricket for his batting, not had much of a run batting in the first team.
I'm not that critical of him. I just think if you're going to have Harmer at 7 then the 6 in front of him have to be very good and they're not. Walter at 7 and not being counted on to bowl 4 overs every game would be a decent enough pick.
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Id let Walter open. Tell him to go out and have some fun.
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Chuck Snater into the top 5.
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He can give it a whack.
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The squad doesn't bode well for tomorrow, it looks fairly weak, we shall see, if a couple of batsmen click we have a chance, if not....
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compare this with Hampshire's squad:-
Kyle Abbott (11)
Brad Taylor (93)
Tom Alsop (9)
Rilee Rossouw (30)
James Fuller (26)
Lewis McManus (18)
James Vince (14) Captain
Liam Dawson (8)
Sam Northeast (17)
Aneurin Donald (12)
Chris Morris (2)
Mason Crane (32)
Chris Wood (25)
Ryan Stevenson (47)
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The squad doesn't bode well for tomorrow, it looks fairly weak, we shall see, if a couple of batsmen click we have a chance, if not....
To be fair, that sums up out T20 chances overall and not just in this match, in a nutshell!
Roll on proper cricket again although I hope the club has some plans for Siddle’s replacement well under way!
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Chopra is out of form, be it dropping Ravi is a strange one. Disciplinary or because he is going elsewhere soon?
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Chopra is out of form, be it dropping Ravi is a strange one. Disciplinary or because he is going elsewhere soon?
Or injured again?
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Probably because they will both be off to play in the Scottish franchise and we are preparing to do without them.
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Probably because they will both be off to play in the Scottish franchise and we are preparing to do without them.
Amir and Snater are both in the same tournament and they're both in the squad.
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When are we going to get some sort of statement re whether Bopara and Chopra are available for the rest of the CC ?
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Probably because they will both be off to play in the Scottish franchise and we are preparing to do without them.
Amir and Snater are both in the same tournament and they're both in the squad.
The Euroslam T20 nonsense doesn't start until the day of our last group game.
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Chopra is out of form, be it dropping Ravi is a strange one. Disciplinary or because he is going elsewhere soon?
Or injured again?
Very much doubt it.
He was fit on Monday for the seconds, bowling well, getting into the 90's batting and taking a great catch.
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When are we going to get some sort of statement re whether Bopara and Chopra are available for the rest of the CC ?
Who cares if Chopra is available.
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Wheels coming off already.
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That's what you get with Cameron Delport. Lots of failures with the occasional big innings.
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Looks like normal service has been resumed.
I was so pleased to access streaming via YouTube and even more pleased to see Westley and Wheater rollicking along at 9 an over, reaching 82.
A loose shot by Westley and the bubble burst in the biggest cloudburst I have seen by Essex in a long time. It had looked as if Hampshire’s dire record at Chelmsford would continue.
Even after we had capitulated and fallen in a very undignified heap, we managed to miss a big trick.
With such a small total to defend, Hampshire had to be bowled out. We got a near perfect start with our premium overseas player Amur, bowling Donald second ball to bring Vince and Roussow together, The powerhouse of Hampshire batting.
Our only chance was to at least bowl Amir for a second over and try to dismiss both Vince and Roussow.
But no!!!
Inexplicably Amir did not bowl again until the obvious defeat was staring the team in the face and it was far too late.
Depressingly predictable.
Far more interesting was the the discussion by the commentators over Bopara’s omission yet again, with the suggestion that his imminent appearance in the Euro T20 League was the reason, he was not playing.
Any truth in this?
Where do the team go from here - probably on a long journey to lose to Gloucester.
At least Siddle showed his true worth today, even it was for the Aussies. Well played Sir.
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That was embarrassing. How do you pick a team with only five and a half batsmen when all 10 outfielders are able to bowl? They have no idea how to set up a t20 side. Delport is a lot more miss than hit and Westley, Wheater and Lawrence are all 30s and 40s type batsmen.
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I can't help thinking they just pick a side based on giving everyone a game! Just does not look they really want to win but can't moan too much being as we are top Division 1 ;)
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Utterly embarrassing! It seems like everyone bar the Essex captain and selectors were baffled and worried before the match about the ridiculously weak batting line chosen for this match and all our fears came true.....in spades!
It’s hard to see where the team go from here if they are not going to even try to pick six proper batsmen! IF Bopara has been dropped because he is buggering off soon, then I doubt he will ever play for the club again as I can’t see him taking too kindly to that decision.
Still, does the club care too much when they keep selling out the home matches?!!
Only bright spots were that at least Walter did well and will play in the next match for sure and that I doubt we will ever see Snater again, as he’s clearly completely out of his depth. Oh and the “freaker” of course! :)
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Another thing. People are quick to criticise teams who fill their teams with overseas players. We had seven tonight!
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How embarrassing was that, very, how do you collapse from 81-1 & going well, or from 101-3 to 109-8 with some extremely poor shots. Only the 3 W's did anything with the bat, without them we wouldn't have made 50! Agree with Reddevil re Amir who surely could have been bowled out to try to get 2/3 more wickets & give us a chance, I couldn't believe the streaker was allowed to run around so much & got within a foot or two of Amir (good job he didn't have a weapon or say something racist), but the Stewards were very slow to react, if they did at all.
Unless we win at Bristol we can forget this season's chances already, there were a fair few empty seats tonight & carry on like this & we certainly won't sell out in future as we are not even competitive at present, people will get tired of watching us continually lose which we will unless there are changes & we become more competitive.
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Another thing. People are quick to criticise teams who fill their teams with overseas players. We had seven tonight!
Yep agree. A disgrace.
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Another thing. People are quick to criticise teams who fill their teams with overseas players. We had seven tonight!
Indeed. And those seven players contributed the princely total of NINE runs between them!!
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My concern is that a lamentable 20/20 campaign could spill over to the remaining Championship games. Since we beat Warwickshire Cook has not lifted a bat in anger, Browne has played poorly in various second eleven games, Bopara has gone awol and we have lost our overseas bowler. Not looking promising is it?
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My concern is that a lamentable 20/20 campaign could spill over to the remaining Championship games. Since we beat Warwickshire Cook has not lifted a bat in anger, Browne has played poorly in various second eleven games, Bopara has gone awol and we have lost our overseas bowler. Not looking promising is it?
Same. Very worrying. I’d have Cook batting in the T20. We’re not going to get our the group so let’s give our fans some value for money, everyone would enjoy seeing him try to play T20.
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everyone would enjoy seeing him try to play T20.
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Chef's T20 stats are comparable to Chopra's but I'm just glad we get to see him play at all.
Most ex England captains head straight to Sky.
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Rumour has it that Bopara and Chopra have effectively downed tools unless the club give them what they want contractually i.e. new two year contracts with the right to play in any franchise cricket to maximise their income. Just a rumour but if they were injured why not just tell us.
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Bopara isnt injured, he played monday.
If that is the case, then laters chaps, close the door on the way out. Oh, and considering you are refusing to work while still under contract, you will be fined your wages.
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I ideal opportunity for the club to get a younger batter in the winter and give Patel a go.
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Rumour has it that Bopara and Chopra have effectively downed tools unless the club give them what they want contractually i.e. new two year contracts with the right to play in any franchise cricket to maximise their income. Just a rumour but if they were injured why not just tell us.
Sad in a way, but you can't hold your (main) employers to ransom, if that is indeed true, Chopra hasn't cut in red ball since returning, Ravi will be a loss especially in white ball. Interesting to see if he goes whether he will get any lucrative offers from other Counties (Surrey, Hants, Warwicks?) & if so will they be happy for him to dictate what he wants to do.
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Bopara isnt injured, he played monday.
If that is the case, then laters chaps, close the door on the way out. Oh, and considering you are refusing to work while still under contract, you will be fined your wages.
Absolutely agree with what you say.
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If, and it is a big if, this is true, I have zero respect for the pair and the sooner they go the better. Not a good look lads. Hope it blows up in their faces (if true).
I think there are 2 T20 games for the seconds today. Interesting to see who plays in that
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, I couldn't believe the streaker was allowed to run around so much & got within a foot or two of Amir (good job he didn't have a weapon or say something racist), but the Stewards were very slow to react, if they did at all.
Yes, and the straker went back to his seat, got dressed, then legged it over the wall into the flats and into the street outside. There was a steward standing at the exit - made no attempt to catch him, while one other steward (on his own) attempted to stop him by running from the next stand.
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, I couldn't believe the streaker was allowed to run around so much & got within a foot or two of Amir (good job he didn't have a weapon or say something racist), but the Stewards were very slow to react, if they did at all.
Yes, and the straker went back to his seat, got dressed, then legged it over the wall into the flats and into the street outside. There was a steward standing at the exit - made no attempt to catch him, while one other steward (on his own) attempted to stop him by running from the next stand.
If he was carrying a bag the stewards would have made every effort to stop him and search his bag.
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If, and it is a big if, this is true, I have zero respect for the pair and the sooner they go the better. Not a good look lads. Hope it blows up in their faces (if true).
I think there are 2 T20 games for the seconds today. Interesting to see who plays in that
1st game Chopra, Pepper, Patel, Rymell, Buttleman, Agedah, Plom, Allison, Cook, Porter, Nijjar.
No Bopara. No Khushi either, perhaps he may play tonight?
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I don't buy the theories. Chopra has simply been dropped. I'd wager Ravi is either injured again or will play tonight. Perhaps they are nursing Ravi trough a dodgy back.
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Rumour has it that Bopara and Chopra have effectively downed tools unless the club give them what they want contractually i.e. new two year contracts with the right to play in any franchise cricket to maximise their income. Just a rumour but if they were injured why not just tell us.
I've heard similar rumours about not playing due to contractual disputes. There was something said at one of the forums recently about the players having been given a deadline to sign contracts. Maybe the deadline is passed and they wont be picked unless they sign? Chopra is playing again for the 2nds today so he hasn't downed tools.
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If Ravi is nursing an injury why has he kept turning out for the 2nds?
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I don't buy the theories. Chopra has simply been dropped. I'd wager Ravi is either injured again or will play tonight. Perhaps they are nursing Ravi trough a dodgy back.
I doubt Chopra has been dropped. He's been our best white ball batsman over the last couple of years. 3 failures shouldnt be enough to be left out of a very poor t20 team.
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So why is he in the 2 team today- when we have a match this evening? There's something rather 'odd'.
Is it that he has upset them (say re the Euro comp), so they are putting him in 2nd's to send a message. Seems very odd that our best white ball batsman is not in the first team.
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Simple. Ask Mootown: he's Ravi's friend.
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Seems very odd that our best white ball batsman is not in the first team.
Perhaps they've rumbled his strike rate.
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Why no Rishi Patel ? From what I have seen in the championship stuff from him, he is an attacking batsman who plays his shots. Would have thought he would be suited to T20 ?
Playing Snater (and batting at 7) yet we loaned Coles to Northants ??
No Boapra is a blow. We have no other genuine all-rounder. Walter now appears like he is a batsman who occasionally bowls. Snater is rubbish. Harmer is not a number 7. Ten Doeschate never bowls anymore ?
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Ravi and Chopra both playing for the 2nd eleven today....
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Walter seems more a batsman who can bowl, I would say to him 'Go out & play with freedom', he showed briefly last night he has power & can certainly hit, so let him. If he is going to be the other way around then encourage him to bowl naturally ie don't force him to bowl flat out if he isn't effective or ,alternatively, don't force him into length & line if he loses his zip. Our bowling Coach needs to spend time with him.