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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: mawallace on July 19, 2019, 03:31:53 PM

Title: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: mawallace on July 19, 2019, 03:31:53 PM
Squads have been announced:-

Essex - unchanged

Simon Harmer (11) (Captain)
Aaron Beard (14)
Ravi Bopara (25)
Varun Chopra (6)
Cameron Delport (89)
Dan Lawrence (28)
Matt Quinn (94)
Shane Snater (29)
Ryan ten Doeschate (27)
Paul Walter (22)
Tom Westley (21)
Adam Wheater (31) (Wicket-keeper)
Adam Zampa (88)

Surrey:-

Jade Dernbach (c)
Gareth Batty
Scott Borthwick
Rory Burns
Jordan Clark
Rikki Clarke
Sam Curran
Tom Curran
Aaron Finch
Ben Foakes
Will Jacks
Ryan Patel
Imran Tahir
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: JasonP on July 19, 2019, 04:04:26 PM
Likely to be rain ruined but if not surely we can't pick two specialist spinners and only 2 main seamers plus Bopara in the conditions you'll get tonight.  The problem is one of the spinners is the captain and the other the best bowler available so we'll probably going to end with a team that's totally unsuitable for conditions!
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: ytsejam1 on July 19, 2019, 04:26:44 PM
Likely to be rain ruined but if not surely we can't pick two specialist spinners and only 2 main seamers plus Bopara in the conditions you'll get tonight.  The problem is one of the spinners is the captain and the other the best bowler available so we'll probably going to end with a team that's totally unsuitable for conditions!

...and thus sums up perfectly the ridiculous decision to make Harmer, who has a useless record in the T20 in this Country,  the T20 captain and then use one of our two allotted overseas player (uhmm...assuming we ever do see the second one!!) slots on another specialist spinner!! There will probably only be the odd game or two where the pitch/situation is suited to playing both, so what a complete waste especially when we are a specialist batsman light anyway!

Rain COULD be our saviour though, as shortened matches often become a complete lottery and very dependant on the toss, or if the match is abandoned completely, at least we will actually get a point!
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Heisenberg on July 19, 2019, 04:37:51 PM
Presume Harmer is captain to give him some experience to take over Ten Doeschate next year in 4 day cricket. Westley to be made captain for white ball formats next year perhaps ?

Anyway, Surrey look very strong. Pray for rain. The Matt Coles situation is odd. Surely he is better than Quinn and Snater ? What a pointless signing he was. Would like to see Walter given a go over Lawrence.

Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: IlfordEagle on July 19, 2019, 04:45:15 PM
Presume Harmer is captain to give him some experience to take over Ten Doeschate next year in 4 day cricket.

Again this has come up,how do we know Tendo will step down as Captain in CC? Nothing has come from the Club or player yet, hopefully Tendo will continue at least as a player while he has plenty to offer & on the evidence of last night plenty in T20.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: SirChef26 on July 19, 2019, 05:36:21 PM
The money men will obviously disagree but it terms of the competition, a draw would feel like a win with the teams being the equivalent of a Man City vs West Ham game.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Andy on July 19, 2019, 05:43:40 PM
Presume Harmer is captain to give him some experience to take over Ten Doeschate next year in 4 day cricket.
Again this has come up,how do we know Tendo will step down as Captain in CC? Nothing has come from the Club or player yet, hopefully Tendo will continue at least as a player while he has plenty to offer & on the evidence of last night plenty in T20.

I had thought the same, RtD is nearly 40 and Harmer is substantially younger.  However, SH is an experienced skipper in SA so wouldn't need the experience?

Maybe RtD just feels it is too much leading in all formats and the obvious replacements (Bopara and Westley) don't appear suitable.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: nat on July 19, 2019, 08:09:48 PM
Carnage at the ECG
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Wicky on July 19, 2019, 08:17:11 PM
Delport holding an end up while Lawrence has a go...  ;)
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Reddevil on July 19, 2019, 08:24:21 PM
We might, just might be in with a chance of a win.

Can’t quite believe what I have seen on cricinfo.

Will the weather hold up, will our bowling hold up?
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: SirChef26 on July 19, 2019, 08:26:24 PM
Delport proving why not signing a big hitting OS batsman when Chelmsford is your home ground is madness.

Now if any bowling attack could find a way to lose this.....
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: essexfan548 on July 19, 2019, 08:28:17 PM
Watching on Livestream - awesome!

Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: ytsejam1 on July 19, 2019, 08:31:17 PM
Wow.....simply WOW!!.....what do all us experts know now then?!!!.....what an amazing innings!..there is NO way under the sun that we can lose this.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: essexfan548 on July 19, 2019, 08:33:30 PM
Surrey 19 off the first over ..
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Reddevil on July 19, 2019, 09:30:24 PM
Trying to follow on cricinfo. Site keeps crashing, but Surrey now need 70 off 10 balls. No no balls or wides please.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: nat on July 19, 2019, 09:38:39 PM
Crazy game. I will excuse the bowlers from both teams because the ball appeared to be continuously wet.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: essexfan548 on July 19, 2019, 09:39:14 PM
Trying to follow on cricinfo. Site keeps crashing, but Surrey now need 70 off 10 balls. No no balls or wides please.
Reddevil - you could have watched on the Essex Livestream :)
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: IlfordEagle on July 19, 2019, 09:44:24 PM
Incredible & the perfect response to last night, especially sweet to thrash Surrey at T20 for the first time in at least 3 years (at The Oval during Euros in 2016 the last time I think).
Very well done Essex.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: ytsejam1 on July 19, 2019, 09:46:00 PM
Crazy game. I will excuse the bowlers from both teams because the ball appeared to be continuously wet.

Agree about it being a crazy match!! I wonder if theres ever been 400 runs scored from just 30 overs before? Poor bowling and wet ball aside, it was still an amazing effort from Delport and Lawrence and it showed that we DO have some real big hitters in the side, AND that once (if he ever does, that is) Amir plays and possibly either Porter or Cook are back, then we may well have a chance to progress in this competition after all!
Well done to the team tonight.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Reddevil on July 20, 2019, 12:38:13 AM
Many thanks essexfan548 but must confess unsure how to access livestream. Is it on the Essex CCC app?

Will try to locate for next match.

Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Reddevil on July 20, 2019, 12:45:06 AM
Have Googled live feed for Essex and have found a link.

All I need now is our next match.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: LeedsExile on July 20, 2019, 07:19:00 AM
If anyone wishes to relive the audio of the game, it is available here for 6 days.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0006v59
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: afinetickletoleg on July 20, 2019, 07:42:25 AM
The money men will obviously disagree but it terms of the competition, a draw would feel like a win with the teams being the equivalent of a Man City vs West Ham game.

Must get money on West Ham to beat Man City first game of the season.  ;D
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Stringbok on July 20, 2019, 07:47:44 AM
The live stream is a also available directly from  You Tube.  Search Essex Tv.  I find this easier than accessing from the Essex website especially as I can get You Tube on the Tv.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Reddevil on July 20, 2019, 09:26:26 AM
Thank you Stringbok, another very helpful reply. Will check it out.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: essexfan548 on July 20, 2019, 11:04:15 AM
The live stream is a also available directly from  You Tube.  Search Essex Tv.  I find this easier than accessing from the Essex website especially as I can get You Tube on the Tv.

If you can get youtube then you have the internet on your TV? The Livestream is on the Essex website.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: essexfan548 on July 20, 2019, 11:09:43 AM
Some of the video still here: https://www.essexcricket.org.uk/matchzone#m50585c31-0b13-4c7a-90e1-c56f0fc37cb5
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: golden duck on July 20, 2019, 11:35:42 AM
Don't  know what I made of last night. Good fun but no replacement for the contrasts of 1st class cricket. Impressive hitting but it was getting to rhe point where a 6 became a shrug of the shoulders. Thought some of Lawrences straight drives were the pick of the batting.
Zampas wicket maiden was definitely the most impressive bit of cricket.
Can't help thinking we saw enough last night to be confident we have moved forward as a T20 team but how far? Time will tell.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Andy on July 20, 2019, 11:36:39 AM
I hope that the Samaritans will be helping the bowlers on both sides after last night. Welcome to Chelmsford Mr Delboy.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: Stringbok on July 20, 2019, 01:10:14 PM
The live stream is a also available directly from  You Tube.  Search Essex Tv.  I find this easier than accessing from the Essex website especially as I can get You Tube on the Tv.

If you can get youtube then you have the internet on your TV? The Livestream is on the Essex website.
my tv doesn’t have a browser but it does have you tube as an app. It means I can watch on a bigger screen. 

It’s just another , In my view easier option, if you have that functionality.
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: essexfan548 on July 20, 2019, 02:03:23 PM
It’s just another , In my view easier option, if you have that functionality.

I watch it on my TV too but via Matchzone - no searching needed as the game is just there. I'm watching it again now :)
Title: Re: v Surrey (Home)
Post by: JasonP on July 21, 2019, 11:54:09 AM
Saw this on another forum yesterday

Essex's run rate of 15.06 runs per over in their score of 226-4 from 15 overs v Surrey last night is the highest run rate ever recorded in a T20 innings that has lasted more than 10 overs. Had they scored at that rate for 20 overs they'd have made 301.

Taken from a guy called Freddie Wildes twitter account who is a cricket analyst.