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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: JasonP on April 02, 2019, 04:08:49 PM
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https://www.essexcricket.org.uk/2019/04/02/simon-harmer-named-as-blast-captain/
Westley was vice captain so I'm not sure why Harmer has overtaken him? I'm not sure why he wont make a decent captain but with Zampa around he really shouldn't be an automatic choice in the team. He's not that good at T20 and you don't always need two specialist spinners especially on a ground the size of Chelmsford.
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https://www.essexcricket.org.uk/2019/04/02/simon-harmer-named-as-blast-captain/
Westley was vice captain so I'm not sure why Harmer has overtaken him? I'm not sure why he wont make a decent captain but with Zampa around he really shouldn't be an automatic choice in the team. He's not that good at T20 and you don't always need two specialist spinners especially on a ground the size of Chelmsford.
Perhaps TW wants to focus on getting back into the England side. I wonder when RtD's contract is up? He's pushing 40, although like Fossie very fit for his age, but he can't carry on forever.
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A very strange choice ... unless RTD didn't want to do it and there were no other takers. Not a good T20 bowler...perhaps he'll open the batting?!
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Is captaincy important in T20?
I've never seen any evidence that it is.
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Wow.
Would not even have Harmer in the T20 team when we have Coles, Porter, Amir and Porter. Plus Ravi, Tendo and Delport can bowl.
Presume the club are grooming Harmer to take over from Ten Doeschate full time who is 38 and will be 39 in June.
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Wow.
Would not even have Harmer in the T20 team when we have Coles, Porter, Amir and Porter. Plus Ravi, Tendo and Delport can bowl.
Presume the club are grooming Harmer to take over from Ten Doeschate full time who is 38 and will be 39 in June.
Yep looks like it if SH lives up to his promise to unwind his SA commitments and become based in the UK.
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Sounds like another season of T20 failure is ahead. Shame as I really do like that new shirt.
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I thought it was a bit odd when he stood in for RTD at Cambridge last week, which seemed at the time a snub to Chopra who has captained in the past when both TRD and Westley were missing ....however today's news explains it.
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I thought it was a bit odd when he stood in for RTD at Cambridge last week, which seemed at the time a snub to Chopra who has captained in the past when both TRD and Westley were missing ....however today's news explains it.
Harmer did captain in the last T20 match of last season against Kent and Chopra played then.
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I thought it was a bit odd when he stood in for RTD at Cambridge last week, which seemed at the time a snub to Chopra who has captained in the past when both TRD and Westley were missing ....however today's news explains it.
This was raised by someone this evening at the forum. Tom remains vice captain, but wants to focus on improving his batting. Ryan wants to bring on the next generation as he is not getting any younger and it was felt that t20 captain was a starting point
Ryan had a calf muscle tear hence why he did not captain. YlTom was abroad and so could not captain
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Sounds like another season of T20 failure is ahead. Shame as I really do like that new shirt.
Give him a chance ...
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From memory, I think Harmer had a decent T20 season in SA. Opened the bowling in a couple of games i think???
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From memory, I think Harmer had a decent T20 season in SA. Opened the bowling in a couple of games i think???
Yes. 11 matches - 10 wickets - ave of 21 and economy of 6.92.
Cameron Delport has been rather impressive as well.
Pakistan Super League - 335 runs at ave of 32. He was the 3rd highest run scorer overall. He also got 4 wickets.
South African T20 tournament - 197 runs at ave of 39.
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Sounds like another season of T20 failure is ahead. Shame as I really do like that new shirt.
Give him a chance ...
He isn’t in our best T20 team with Zampa back at the club. Unless he’s developed a wrongun he’ll get smashed out the park once again.
As per his captaincy, I just hope he’s attacking with his fielders. T20 is about taking wickets now, especially at Chelmsford.
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From memory, I think Harmer had a decent T20 season in SA. Opened the bowling in a couple of games i think???
Yes. 11 matches - 10 wickets - ave of 21 and economy of 6.92.
Cameron Delport has been rather impressive as well.
Pakistan Super League - 335 runs at ave of 32. He was the 3rd highest run scorer overall. He also got 4 wickets.
South African T20 tournament - 197 runs at ave of 39.
Re Delport, main thing is that he scores his runs v quickly also
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Re Delport - he scores his *run* very quickly.
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I couldn’t give a ———- about 20/20 but am pleased to hear this as I think Harmer would be the best choice for captain in proper cricket,when Tendo has to retire—hopefully not for a couple more seasons yet.
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Still want Harmer as captain? How can an off spinner bowl a front foot no ball?!
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Still want Harmer as captain? How can an off spinner bowl a front foot no ball?!
Overstepping may be a heinous crime in the modern game, but doesn't make him a bad captain. Given the shambolic efforts under RtD this year, unless you can persuade AB de Villiers there are few alternatives to SH...
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Awful white ball bowler - joke decision to make him T20 skipper, especially with Zampa arriving.
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Awful white ball bowler - joke decision to make him T20 skipper, especially with Zampa arriving.
Yep. You have to wonder who is making all of these 'playing' decisions because whoever it is ... haven't got a scooby.
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Yep. You have to wonder who is making all of these 'playing' decisions because whoever it is ... haven't got a scooby.
Given the current personnel who would you make captain?
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Yep. You have to wonder who is making all of these 'playing' decisions because whoever it is ... haven't got a scooby.
Given the current personnel who would you make captain?
Varun Chopra
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Given the current personnel who would you make captain?
Varun Chopra
Interesting, thanks.
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Yep. You have to wonder who is making all of these 'playing' decisions because whoever it is ... haven't got a scooby.
Given the current personnel who would you make captain?
Varun Chopra
I wonder if he'll be here next season? With the 50 overs basically being a waste of time next season and him not being in the 4 day team then is there a lot of incentive to stick around just for a few twenty20 matches if he got an offer from elsewhere?
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In my opinion Chopra, given his form in short formats since his return, should be just about the only dead cert name on the team sheet in both white ball comps. This and his previous experience of captaincy would mean the logical decision would have been to hand him the job in both the ODC and T20.
A major issue at the club is McGrath and Tendo's inflexibility at times on selection issues. Certain players are clearly undroppable in this regime and that should never be the case in any professional sports team. Tendo is not an all-rounder and neither is Harmer. I'd be happy if Harmer was in at 10 in white ball, 9 at a push. The fact that he now has to play in T20 alongside Zampa...well it's going to seriously unbalance the team and we will struggle like last year.
Anyone who kids themselves that whiteball doesn't matter should be reminded that form is generally contagious and I, like most members, want Essex to progress and be in the mix for all three formats.
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In my opinion Chopra, given his form in short formats since his return, should be just about the only dead cert name on the team sheet in both white ball comps. This and his previous experience of captaincy would mean the logical decision would have been to hand him the job in both the ODC and T20.
A major issue at the club is McGrath and Tendo's inflexibility at times on selection issues. Certain players are clearly undroppable in this regime and that should never be the case in any professional sports team. Tendo is not an all-rounder and neither is Harmer. I'd be happy if Harmer was in at 10 in white ball, 9 at a push. The fact that he now has to play in T20 alongside Zampa...well it's going to seriously unbalance the team and we will struggle like last year.
Anyone who kids themselves that whiteball doesn't matter should be reminded that form is generally contagious and I, like most members, want Essex to progress and be in the mix for all three formats.
Quite agree. You can join my club.
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Harmer is a very good 4 day bowler indeed but has never had the same sort of success for us in white ball.
His selection as T20 captain is looking very odd given he has now been dropped from the RLODC team altogether.
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Interestingly Harmer is playing for the 'stiffs' today vs MCCYC.
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Interestingly Harmer is playing for the 'stiffs' today vs MCCYC.
Yes, I noticed that too - I was going to go if the weather had been kinder.