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Off-Topic => In The Hut => Topic started by: Valentines Park on February 13, 2014, 12:19:56 AM
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http://www.essexcricket.org.uk/2014/02/12/tiptree-stand-has-moved-location/
Only Essex would trumpet a worse view as being a big deal worth shouting about.
Then again they've been getting away with selling pups for years ...
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Presumably the marquee housing the members restaurant will now move into the gap beside the pavilion? No obvious logic to it all, besides adding 100 seats for T20. Or is it one small step in the redevelopment? The club has been awfully quiet on this front - the last press release was almost 6 months ago.
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To be honest, I can't understand why this hasn't happened before. We should have proper stands around the entire Hayes Close end.
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To be honest, I can't understand why this hasn't happened before. We should have proper stands around the entire Hayes Close end.
Ain't it obvious? Larry has obviously not approved the plans. ;D
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Larry has obviously not approved the plans.
Can Larry even read?
He certainly can't read between the lines.
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To be honest, I can't understand why this hasn't happened before. We should have proper stands around the entire Hayes Close end.
Not enough room and sight screens/Sky gantry would obscure a large amount of seats.
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Presumably the marquee housing the members restaurant will now move into the gap beside the pavilion? No obvious logic to it all, besides adding 100 seats for T20. Or is it one small step in the redevelopment? The club has been awfully quiet on this front - the last press release was almost 6 months ago.
With current scrutiny placed upon over development on flood plains and next to rivers, it may be that Essex CCC's contribution to the later may be revisited by local and national planning authorities and agencies. The Club redevelopment was another in a long line of ill conceived, poorly thought through schemes, that were concocted by that cosy little club masquerading as the Cricket Committee, to provide, in this instance, a lasting legacy- (vanity project)- to the tenure of a certain D. East.
I would also suggest that for a Club that brags and seemingly publicises the slightest little thing, the silence on this is deafening!
My guess is the 3 prosaic tower blocks on the former car park will probably be constructed, then the redevelopment will cease. The County Ground will limp on in much its current form....much like the Club itself.
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The County Ground will limp on in much its current form....much like the Club itself.
So Larry won't get a nice new dressing room to hide in?
The heart bleeds ...
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The County Ground will limp on in much its current form....much like the Club itself.
So Larry won't get a nice new dressing room to hide in?
The heart bleeds ...
If you took your Larry blinkers off you might realise that not improving the player facilities will not improve our chances of attracting players when competing for their signature against another county.
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not improving the player facilities will not improve our chances of attracting players when competing for their signature against another county.
That would be a good point well made if the club didn't insist on signing mugs.
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not improving the player facilities will not improve our chances of attracting players when competing for their signature against another county.
That would be a good point well made if the club didn't insist on signing mugs.
The club can only sign those players that agree to come.
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The club can only sign those players that agree to come.
We could have a dressing room with gold fittings & I still think we'd end up with the likes of Saj Mahmood on the books.
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"My guess is the 3 prosaic tower blocks on the former car park will probably be constructed, then the redevelopment will cease. The County Ground will limp on in much its current form....much like the Club itself."
I'd settle for that. Plus a lick of paint
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I'd settle for that. Plus a lick of paint
Will a lick of paint mask the reek from the bogs?
If we are just lumbered with some tower blocks as the sum total of the redevelopment the entire Committee should resign in shame.
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With other clubs having financial issues at the moment, at least in the short term we might be a little more attractive. Of course, if the likes of Sussex don't go under, then we might look a little less attractive.
Personally I'd like to see us grow our own where possible, with the occasional David Masters recruitment.
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If the total redevelopment doesn't go ahead then we must surely push for T20 games (2/3 v Sorry, Kent & Middx) to be played at Stratford to hopefully attract bigger crowds.If we don't then revenue from home games obviously won't rise which in turn might well affect the quality of O/s players we sign for the Tournament.
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Middlesex's double header at Lords could be a model to follow with Stratford. I shall be intrigued to see how it goes. My son and I will be going - £30 for the two of us for 2 T20 games strikes me as excellent value
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Middlesex's double header at Lords could be a model to follow with Stratford.
How about an off with their double header?
Larry & Hilliard vs the guillotine.
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I'd settle for that. Plus a lick of paint
Will a lick of paint mask the reek from the bogs?
If we are just lumbered with some tower blocks as the sum total of the redevelopment the entire Committee should resign in shame.
Basically the redevelopment was the vanity project of the "Fat Controller" The Pavilion will be a white elephant and the seating at the river end reduced.
So yes sort out the toilets, tart up the ground and leave it at that
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I'd settle for that. Plus a lick of paint
Will a lick of paint mask the reek from the bogs?
If we are just lumbered with some tower blocks as the sum total of the redevelopment the entire Committee should resign in shame.
Basically the redevelopment was the vanity project of the "Fat Controller" The Pavilion will be a white elephant and the seating at the river end reduced.
So yes sort out the toilets, tart up the ground and leave it at that
No replacement pavilion is going to be built. Frankly, considering it was based on a twenty-odd year old design from the Riverside in Durham, probably just as well.
Let's look at the facts, not the ECCC hype organ. This 'redevelopment' was launched to self satisfied acclaim from the Club themselves in 2008. In the interim, not a foundation has been excavated, not a single brick has been laid, according to eye witness reports and absence from typical hyped fanfare from the Club. Who seem to think a section of temporary tip-up seating being relocated from one corner of the ground is akin to a stunning Rod Sheard Populous created stadium.
No Change Essex have provided deliberately misleading and opaque information on this vanity project, when any has been forthcoming at all. They have failed to produce any drawings/elevations of any of the actual spectator accommodation, despite being pressed to do so, for at least a year. Now, they appear to have quietly forgotten about the whole project.
Knowing how our beloved Club operate, this is hardly any great shock. Maybe if DE was still around he would be a little more expansive...?
Unfortunately, this is a by-product of our collective inability to stage an EGM and campaign for change. How on earth they continue to propagate this ongoing confidence trick is staggering.
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Given that clubs with 'more expansive' development schemes have been bailed out by their local councils, maybe this is not such as bad result.
The ECB rather foolishly encouraged expansion by clubs just before 2008 financial crisis: hence they are now paying clubs £1m to stop them going bust. This is why I don't buy the McLaurin dismissive attitude towards counties, because the ECB has caused a crisis.
Nevertheless, a carefully staged, sustainably funded, development programme could have been followed between 2008-2013 rather than the carefully-staged and unbelievable PR campaign...
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If the flats are never built. I have a message for anyone who bought one off plan as an buy to let investment.
Ha Ha.
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Maybe if DE was still around he would be a little more expansive...?
I thought the only place he was expansive was around the midriff.
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Last November Bowden told the members forum there would be a consultation in the new year over new plans for the Pavilion and rest of the ground.
Since then not a word.
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I'd settle for that. Plus a lick of paint
Will a lick of paint mask the reek from the bogs?
If we are just lumbered with some tower blocks as the sum total of the redevelopment the entire Committee should resign in shame.
Basically the redevelopment was the vanity project of the "Fat Controller" The Pavilion will be a white elephant and the seating at the river end reduced.
So yes sort out the toilets, tart up the ground and leave it at that
No replacement pavilion is going to be built. Frankly, considering it was based on a twenty-odd year old design from the Riverside in Durham, probably just as well.
Let's look at the facts, not the ECCC hype organ. This 'redevelopment' was launched to self satisfied acclaim from the Club themselves in 2008. In the interim, not a foundation has been excavated, not a single brick has been laid, according to eye witness reports and absence from typical hyped fanfare from the Club. Who seem to think a section of temporary tip-up seating being relocated from one corner of the ground is akin to a stunning Rod Sheard Populous created stadium.
No Change Essex have provided deliberately misleading and opaque information on this vanity project, when any has been forthcoming at all. They have failed to produce any drawings/elevations of any of the actual spectator accommodation, despite being pressed to do so, for at least a year. Now, they appear to have quietly forgotten about the whole project.
Knowing how our beloved Club operate, this is hardly any great shock. Maybe if DE was still around he would be a little more expansive...?
Unfortunately, this is a by-product of our collective inability to stage an EGM and campaign for change. How on earth they continue to propagate this ongoing confidence trick is staggering.
The rather more concrete (sorry about pun) worry is that the whole thing has to date cost at least £500k of the club's money and who knows how many hours of management time.
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Last November Bowden told the members forum there would be a consultation in the new year over new plans for the Pavilion and rest of the ground.
Since then not a word.
It's only Feb.
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The rather more concrete (sorry about pun) worry is that the whole thing has to date cost at least £500k of the club's money and who knows how many hours of management time.
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I reckon you could have got quite a lot of building work for £500k. And it would have been done by now
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Last November Bowden told the members forum there would be a consultation in the new year over new plans for the Pavilion and rest of the ground.
Since then not a word.
I'm surprised that you are surprised. Isn't this the modus operandi from No Change Essex?
I'd be more inclined to take the word of next doors' cat!
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Last November Bowden told the members forum there would be a consultation in the new year over new plans for the Pavilion and rest of the ground.
Since then not a word.
I'm surprised that you are surprised. Isn't this the modus operandi from No Change Essex?
I'd be more inclined to take the word of next doors' cat!
Did I say I was surprised?
I don't take anyone's word but but do try to hold them to account. This is probably better than just making snide remarks as SOME on here do.