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Cricket => Essex Eagles T20 => Topic started by: JasonP on August 10, 2018, 02:23:34 PM

Title: Gloucestershire H
Post by: JasonP on August 10, 2018, 02:23:34 PM
Obviously we are very determined to finish bottom!
https://www.essexcricket.org.uk/2018/08/10/adam-zampa-heads-to-the-cpl

Gloucester made 242-4 last night so another one to look forward to!
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: nat on August 10, 2018, 02:46:31 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: DT on August 10, 2018, 03:13:00 PM
Perhaps it’ll be a Lord’s esque washout ??

As for Zampa being asked to leave early, just about sums it up.  I knew it wasn’t a good signing, that has been proved and I hope he doesn’t return - should have seen out the contract - just because we can’t qualify is no excuse...
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Andy on August 10, 2018, 04:47:11 PM
Perhaps it’ll be a Lord’s esque washout ??

As for Zampa being asked to leave early, just about sums it up.  I knew it wasn’t a good signing, that has been proved and I hope he doesn’t return - should have seen out the contract - just because we can’t qualify is no excuse...
Agree that he should stay until the bitter end. A good signing in itself, but there’s too many problems with the form and composition of the squad as a whole - not just in white ball cricket either.

Perhaps this also shows how little interest there is in county cricket compared to these (more lucrative) t20 circuses. Or maybe no one wants to come to the (traditionally poor paying) county champions?


Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Perov on August 10, 2018, 05:45:57 PM
Hope we have saved a bit on his contract payment.
Not someone we need to come back next year.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Andy on August 10, 2018, 06:27:57 PM
Well, all I can say is soft southerners crying because of a little shower.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Niel01 on August 10, 2018, 07:13:35 PM
Is the county ground in a worse condition than my back lawn ?? and I don't have drainage or drying machinery.  Was it dangerous or would the ground be badly damaged - I very much doubt it. From my knowledge there was no rain certainly after 4pm so why wait until 7.10pm to call the game off ??  Answer - so that they can still sell lots of drink and refreshments - complete disregard for the loyal supporters !!
Can't help but think that Essex just did not want to play this match when the competition is dead for them and Gloucestershire happy with a point which will take them almost to the later stages for the first time in a number of years.
Cynical - maybe, but I bet that I am right. Shame on you Essex !!
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: nat on August 10, 2018, 07:14:09 PM
Well, all I can say is soft southerners crying because of a little shower.
Yep now unbeaten in ....
....
One game.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: JasonP on August 10, 2018, 07:21:57 PM
Well, all I can say is soft southerners crying because of a little shower.
Yep now unbeaten in ....
....
One game.

Yes, we've also found a way to stop Klinger scoring runs.  3 times out of the last 4 games against Gloucester, they haven't got to bat.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: IlfordEagle on August 10, 2018, 09:15:16 PM
Perhaps we should insert a clause into any O/s recruits' contracts - The contract can be opted out of once we cannot qualify for the latter stages of the competition, or the player is free to go whenever he feels like it.
Can you imagine the uproar if footballers did that once their side is safe from relegation or out of the running for honours?
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Andy on August 10, 2018, 09:18:21 PM
How come Lanky get a full match in tonight, and the rains were terrestrial this morning? We’ve had far more rain in the past couple of weeks compared to Essex.  Someone should speak to the ecb...as for Zampa, well my excolleague was annoyed when he upped and moved franchise in Aussie. Pretty much par for the course with many cricketers nowadays. No loyalty whatsoever.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: JasonP on August 11, 2018, 09:02:23 AM
Perhaps we should insert a clause into any O/s recruits' contracts - The contract can be opted out of once we cannot qualify for the latter stages of the competition, or the player is free to go whenever he feels like it.
Can you imagine the uproar if footballers did that once their side is safe from relegation or out of the running for honours?

If our wicket keeper is allowed to miss matches in the middle of the season in competitions that we were still in then I'm not sure why Zampa shouldn't ask for an early release of his contract when we're out of the T20 anyway.   He was the one guy in the team who was let down.  He arrived weeks early, spent his time playing club cricket to prepare, was our most consistant player and was let down by playing in poorly coached and poorly performing team.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: nat on August 11, 2018, 09:59:19 AM
Perhaps we should insert a clause into any O/s recruits' contracts - The contract can be opted out of once we cannot qualify for the latter stages of the competition, or the player is free to go whenever he feels like it.
Can you imagine the uproar if footballers did that once their side is safe from relegation or out of the running for honours?

If our wicket keeper is allowed to miss matches in the middle of the season in competitions that we were still in then I'm not sure why Zampa shouldn't ask for an early release of his contract when we're out of the T20 anyway.   He was the one guy in the team who was let down.  He arrived weeks early, spent his time playing club cricket to prepare, was our most consistant player and was let down by playing in poorly coached and poorly performing team.

Point of order. AZ wasn't let down. He was handsomely paid to perform to the best of his ability for the duration of his contract. I don't agree with JF swanning off half way through the season either. Both episodes set a bad precedent and reflect badly on ECCC. I thought the ECCC management were better than that.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Niel01 on August 11, 2018, 10:02:41 AM
Why should Zampa leave early ?  I know that we only have one home fixture left next Friday v Kent. However people have paid well in advance to Essex compete with their best possible side which would include Zampa.  Tickets were sold partly on the strength of our overseas signings. No matter that we are out of the possible Quarter Final places; supporters want to see us beat Kent. Another example of the Club caring not a jot about the fans and supporters.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: JasonP on August 11, 2018, 10:06:28 AM
Perhaps we should insert a clause into any O/s recruits' contracts - The contract can be opted out of once we cannot qualify for the latter stages of the competition, or the player is free to go whenever he feels like it.
Can you imagine the uproar if footballers did that once their side is safe from relegation or out of the running for honours?

If our wicket keeper is allowed to miss matches in the middle of the season in competitions that we were still in then I'm not sure why Zampa shouldn't ask for an early release of his contract when we're out of the T20 anyway.   He was the one guy in the team who was let down.  He arrived weeks early, spent his time playing club cricket to prepare, was our most consistant player and was let down by playing in poorly coached and poorly performing team.

Point of order. AZ wasn't let down. He was handsomely paid to perform to the best of his ability for the duration of his contract. I don't agree with JF swanning off half way through the season either. Both episodes set a bad precedent and reflect badly on ECCC. I thought the ECCC management were better than that.

That's absolutely true but he still had the right to expect better from both his team mates and the management.  He did his part when he was here but the management and other players didn't.  There's plenty of T20 competitons around the world that he could be both handsomely paid for and be part of a competent team.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: essexfan548 on August 11, 2018, 10:25:36 AM
How come Lanky get a full match in tonight, and the rains were terrestrial this morning? We’ve had far more rain in the past couple of weeks compared to Essex.  Someone should speak to the ecb...as for Zampa, well my excolleague was annoyed when he upped and moved franchise in Aussie. Pretty much par for the course with many cricketers nowadays. No loyalty whatsoever.

I've been up near Leeds this week and there's been no rain in ages. Certainly none this week until Friday ... and then just a shower.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: terryb on August 11, 2018, 11:24:28 AM
It is a shame that we have lost Zampa. A truly remarkable man. He was in the squad for the 7.00 start at Chelmsford on Friday but played in the CPL in Trinidad only 7 hours later. How did he manage that? Perhaps we are being issued with fake news. Remember the tourist match was shortened because it was too hot for the Indian players. How did they Indian squad manage to book their Birmingham hotel for an extra night at such short notice?
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: nat on August 11, 2018, 11:33:24 AM
It is a shame that we have lost Zampa. A truly remarkable man. He was in the squad for the 7.00 start at Chelmsford on Friday but played in the CPL in Trinidad only 7 hours later. How did he manage that? Perhaps we are being issued with fake news. Remember the tourist match was shortened because it was too hot for the Indian players. How did they Indian squad manage to book their Birmingham hotel for an extra night at such short notice?

Yep you have good insight. 'Remarkable' is not a word I would use.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Andy on August 11, 2018, 11:53:37 AM
It is a shame that we have lost Zampa. A truly remarkable man. He was in the squad for the 7.00 start at Chelmsford on Friday but played in the CPL in Trinidad only 7 hours later. How did he manage that? Perhaps we are being issued with fake news. Remember the tourist match was shortened because it was too hot for the Indian players. How did they Indian squad manage to book their Birmingham hotel for an extra night at such short notice?

Yep you have good insight. 'Remarkable' is not a word I would use.

Well, we're assuming that Zampa got up in the morning and decided to go somewhere colder and wetter than Chelmsford.  He could've negotiated this and someone didn't bother to change the team sheet. This is the reverse of Dwayne Bravo - maybe AZ shouted "I'm a proper T20 cricketer get me out of here"?
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: DT on August 11, 2018, 10:53:35 PM
It is a shame that we have lost Zampa. A truly remarkable man. He was in the squad for the 7.00 start at Chelmsford on Friday but played in the CPL in Trinidad only 7 hours later. How did he manage that? Perhaps we are being issued with fake news. Remember the tourist match was shortened because it was too hot for the Indian players. How did they Indian squad manage to book their Birmingham hotel for an extra night at such short notice?



So this suggests the decision was decided a few days ago and no doubt Zampa had been thinking about it for a bit which is rather disappointing if the case!
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Bath Hammer on August 12, 2018, 07:03:43 AM
I have to admit to not being interested in T20 cricket but the way we, as county champions, have rolled over against practically all oppositions is pretty disgraceful. Do we think this would have been the case under Sikverwood.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Valentines Park on August 12, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
We weren't great last year either.

Saying that we haven't had any T20 specialists since Napier & Pettini.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: JasonP on August 12, 2018, 02:45:57 PM
It is a shame that we have lost Zampa. A truly remarkable man. He was in the squad for the 7.00 start at Chelmsford on Friday but played in the CPL in Trinidad only 7 hours later. How did he manage that? Perhaps we are being issued with fake news. Remember the tourist match was shortened because it was too hot for the Indian players. How did they Indian squad manage to book their Birmingham hotel for an extra night at such short notice?



So this suggests the decision was decided a few days ago and no doubt Zampa had been thinking about it for a bit which is rather disappointing if the case!

It's not that uncommon for players to go to the CPL once the Blast has finished so I suspect that he was always planning to go there once his Essex commitments finished and he just brought it forward a week.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: essexfan548 on August 12, 2018, 06:18:43 PM
There could have been an opt out clause in his contract once Essex could not qualify.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Slogger on August 12, 2018, 07:20:59 PM
I suspect this arrangement suits everyone apart from ticket holders who wanted to see Zampa play. I imagine Essex have got some money back.

Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Andy on August 13, 2018, 10:35:15 AM
I suspect this arrangement suits everyone apart from ticket holders who wanted to see Zampa play. I imagine Essex have got some money back.

You would expect so...or, given eccc’s record, we hope so!
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Slogger on August 13, 2018, 11:48:45 AM
I've got a ticket for Lord's on Thursday. Hopefully it will rain so I can go to the pub.
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Blocky on August 15, 2018, 01:53:12 PM
we might actually have a chance against them....
Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: Valentines Park on August 16, 2018, 07:31:33 AM
No result could be the winner here.

Still so long as some beer is sold the MCC will be happy.

Title: Re: Gloucestershire H
Post by: DT on August 16, 2018, 09:23:01 PM
It is a shame that we have lost Zampa. A truly remarkable man. He was in the squad for the 7.00 start at Chelmsford on Friday but played in the CPL in Trinidad only 7 hours later. How did he manage that? Perhaps we are being issued with fake news. Remember the tourist match was shortened because it was too hot for the Indian players. How did they Indian squad manage to book their Birmingham hotel for an extra night at such short notice?



So this suggests the decision was decided a few days ago and no doubt Zampa had been thinking about it for a bit which is rather disappointing if the case!

It's not that uncommon for players to go to the CPL once the Blast has finished so I suspect that he was always planning to go there once his Essex commitments finished and he just brought it forward a week.


Yes but that isn’t the point - clearly this has been brewing for a week or two but it’s all water under the bridge now!